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  1. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Not really, the point was not that government employees are never tested, the point was that not ALL government employees are subject to testing. People working in certain departments such as the ADF, Border Force etc I can understand why they have testing (though I don't know if I agree with...
  2. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Psychedelics can probably help with that (in a clinical environment).
  3. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    You are correct however the AFL's illicit drugs policy is something they imposed themselves (ie not to comply with WADA or receive govt funding) and which the players voluntarily sign up to. My guess is the reason they even have it in the first place is for this very reason, to avoid players...
  4. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    A soldier with access to firearms and potentially confidential information is the same as someone playing sportsball.
  5. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    But if they don't play they haven't breached the WADA code. So it is not circumventing, it is actually making sure they comply with the code by not playing with that substance in their system.
  6. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    What benefit would there be for clubs to test for non-recreational drugs (ie PED's)? Think about it, WADA can still test players out of competition for PED's - it is only that recreational drugs are deemed a breach of the WADA code if found in the system on game day. So a player doesn't play and...
  7. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    CPSU not on board with mandatory piss testing? I guess it's hard when they are wanting to enshrine permanent WFH, do the piss testers knock on your front door and follow you to your bathroom? Maybe they follow you on holiday overseas like they did to Dane Swan.
  8. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Lots of things in this thread, but mainly the pearl-clutching hysteria.
  9. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    I've never worked anywhere that has drug testing and frankly I wouldn't want to. Never heard anyone I know be subject to it either, corporate or government (state and federal).
  10. Demonic Ascent

    Coach Lions - Has the Fagan era already peaked?

    How far away is Ashcroft
  11. Demonic Ascent

    Teams New York Jets - Gang Green

    So why didn't you sack him and go after one of the available coaches Woody you ******* doofus?
  12. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    They will be picked up by WADA during their regulation out of competition testing if that's the case. It is not dependent on them playing on a specific weekend or not, PEDs in your system breach WADAs code whether it is in competition (ie on game day) or not. So you don't have to worry about it...
  13. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Won't somebody think of the gamblers! Why should they be subject to bans for a substance which is not performance enhancing? I don't understand why they are subject to non-PED testing by the AFL anyway. You're right, nothing is stopping them except for the fact they can still be tested by...
  14. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    That's some nice rationalisation there, keep enjoying your bloodstained overpriced sneakers. Wow, so now you're comparing people getting high with people brutally murdering people or sexually assaulting kids. Have a Bex and a lie down mate, you're going round the bend. No, it's not. No, it's...
  15. Demonic Ascent

    Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

    It's absolute hubris on Israel's part, plain and simple. The "west"/US (and others) have allowed them to get away with so much for so long they feel they can just do what they want, say what they want and they'll get away with it. It has led to this current escalation where they are effectively...
  16. Demonic Ascent

    Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

    Or, and hear me out, the "hardline progressives" are against the wholesale murder of innocent civilians; the deliberate targeting of innocent civilians; the deliberate starvation of children; the complete destruction of a community of 2 million people including hospitals, schools, churches...
  17. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Why should they be tested at all? When was the illicit drugs policy implemented? Could it be the only reason the AFL tests for illicit drugs at all is for this exact purpose, ie to identify players who still have illicit drugs but not PEDs in their system and ensure they don't play on game day...
  18. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    A breakaway league would kill the sport. It's a fantasy.
  19. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    No, no more than if they had a big night on the piss anyway.
  20. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    MFC/Goodwin - 1 Bartlett - 0 That's all that matters.
  21. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    That player can still be subject to WADA testing out of competition and be found guilty of using a banned substance. Pulling them from a match won't stop that, it will only stop them being found guilty of using specific banned substances like coke in competition. It's not a circumvention of the...
  22. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    And if you own an iPad or iPhone or wear Nike etc etc you are participating in a capitalist economy that is built on the blood, sweat and tears of people in other countries. So you'll forgive me if I don't buy your feigned morality.
  23. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    You're right I think fun should be one of the first things to be outlawed, not just in the AFL but in society as a whole. We can't have people having fun, life is serious business!
  24. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Funny that you would take my response to your post as "preaching", I was just reaffirming your assessment of my view. I'm not suggesting people should take drugs, just that if they do they shouldn't be locked up. Each to their own, if kumbuya on a Sunday morning is how you get your rocks off no...
  25. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    If WADA are allowed to test anywhere, anytime then they are not circumventing the test at all. The player can still be subject to testing it's just that it won't be deemed "in competition" so a positive coke test won't see them spend 2-4 years on the sidelines. Which dot point does it circumvent?
  26. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    Yes I would advocate for the legalisation of some drugs and the decriminalisation of others. Laws are not set in stone, they can evolve.
  27. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    WADA can still test them. They just can't be done for cocaine because they didn't play that weekend and it's only illegal "in competition" which is the day of the game. WADA can test out of competition for PEDs is my understanding.
  28. Demonic Ascent

    News Clubs operating league-sanctioned drug testing program to evade gameday detection

    ahh yeah, you couldn't tell from my avatar 🤣 "it's the law" - the AFL are not the executive arm of government, it is not their role to enforce the criminal code.
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