Big Footy's Official Pre-Season Ladder Predictor

VANDA · Jan 5, 2005

This thread is to post your final ladder placings for season 2005 based on your current pre-season thoughts about your own club & others. Keep in mind this will be the final placings after the finals series.

If you wish to pass judgement on any posters predictions please be prepared to provide your own list.

Come seasons end we can dredge this thread up again & make comment on how we all went.

Cheers.

My Ladder:

1. Port
2. Saints
3. Bombers
4. West Coast
5. Geelong
6. Brisbane
7. Sydney
8. Bulldogs

9. Melbourne
10. Carlton
11. Collingwood
12. North Melb.
13. Richmond
14. Adelaide
15. Fremantle
16. Hawthorn

Brownlow Tip: J. Hird

SaveFeriss · Jan 5, 2005

Does anyone know if and where there is a ladder predictor like last year, where you pick the winner of each game, and it sorts the end of season ladder for you?

VANDA · Jan 5, 2005

brilliant pies said:
Anyway here is my ladder

1. Port
2. Saints
3. Brisbane
4. West Coast
5. Geelong
6. Collingwood
7. Melbourne
8.

9. Bombers
10. Sydney
11. Fremantle
12. North Melb.
13. Adelaide
14. Bulldogs
15. Richmond
16. Hawthorn

Carlton going to drop out?

Teagueeee15 · Jan 5, 2005

1St kilda
2Geelong
3Port
4Brisbane
5West coast
6Melbourne
7Fremantle
8Kangaroos
9Essendon
10sydney
11Bulldogs
12carlton
13Collingwood
14Adelaide
15Hawthorn
16Richmond

metallichris · Jan 5, 2005

1. St. Kilda
2. Port Adelaide
3. Geelong
4. Brisbane Lions
5. West Coast
6. Collingwood
7. Sydney
8. Kangaroos

9. Melbourne
10. Carlton
11. Essendon
12. Richmond
13. Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn
16. Western Bulldogs

Lockyer24 · Jan 5, 2005

1. St Kilda
2. Port
3. Geelong
4. West Coast
5. Brisbane
6. Collingwood
7. Sydney
8. Melbourne
9. Essendon
10. Fremantle
11. Kangaroos
12. Carlton
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Richmond
16. Hawthorn

Brownlow tip: Adam Goodes (Syd)

UNIT · Jan 5, 2005

1. St Kilda- Anyone who saw the 1st Prelim knows this team has heart as well as talent
2. Port Adelaide-Should be thereabouts again
3. West Coast- Will step up finally
4. Brisbane- Still have one hell of a good list
5. Sydney-Will grind enough wins out to be there again.
6. Fremantle- Should have the season they should of had this year
7. Geelong - I think they may have overachieved personally so 7th for me.
8. Melbourne - They should make the finals.

9. Collingwood- If their best players stay fit then they should be close to finals contention.
10. Carlton- Should take another step towards being a power side again
11. Essendon- Kids arent good enough IMO.
12. Kangaroos- Will slide without some of their expierienced heads on board
13. Richmond- Dont expect an immedeate revival of fortunes.
14. Hawthorn- Just cant see them doing much more than last season.
15. Western Bulldogs- Kids will need to help out Westy,Johnson, Smith and co.
16. Adelaide- Their list is shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite.

leonmagic · Jan 5, 2005

1. Port Power
2. West Coast
3. St Kilda
4. Melbourne
5. Brisbane
6. Fremantle
7. Collingwood
8. Carlton

9. Geelong
10. Essendon
11. Kangaroos
12. Richmond
13. Sydney
14. Bulldogs
15. Adelaide
16. Hawthorn

Brownlow: Michael Gardiner (WCE)
Coleman: Fraser Gehrig (StK)
Rising Star: Ryan Griffen (BULL)

VANDA · Jan 5, 2005

leonmagic said:
1. Port Power
2. West Coast

Please not another all-interstate Grand Final.

UNIT · Jan 5, 2005

Im an Eagles man and even i think itd be optimistic to be tipping a GF berth for next season. Wouldnt complain though.

Kapow!!! · Jan 5, 2005

VANDA said:
Please not another all-interstate Grand Final.

What's interstate? It's a national competition

leonmagic · Jan 5, 2005

VANDA said:
Please not another all-interstate Grand Final.

Possibly - that was my end of the H&A ladder though.

Brissy will give it a shake, unfortunately.

VANDA · Jan 5, 2005

Kapow!!! said:
What's interstate? It's a national competition

Not in Victoria!

Kapow!!! · Jan 5, 2005

VANDA said:
Not in Victoria!

And you wonder why so many people hate Victoria

SaveFeriss · Jan 5, 2005

brilliant pies said:
www.allthestats.com

Thanks BP. I had it saved in my old puter for this year, but old puter needs a fibulator to just get going..

Here's mine.

St Kilda 22 18 4 2256 1924 72 117.2
Port Adel 22 18 4 2254 1926 72 117.0
Bris Lions 22 18 4 2238 1942 72 115.2
West Coast 22 17 5 2190 1990 68 110.0
Geelong 22 15 7 2186 1994 60 109.6
Melbourne 22 13 9 2150 2030 52 105.9
Sydney 22 12 10 2096 2084 48 100.5
Kangaroos 22 10 12 2060 2120 40 97.1

Carlton 22 10 12 2048 2132 40 96.0
Richmond 22 9 13 2078 2102 36 98.8
Essendon 22 9 13 2072 2108 36 98.2
Fremantle 22 8 14 2000 2180 32 91.7
Collingwood 22 7 15 2026 2154 28 94.0
W Bulldogs 22 6 16 1944 2236 24 86.9
Adelaide 22 5 17 1942 2238 20 86.7
Hawthorn 22 1 21 1900 2280 4 83.3

Brownlow: M. Coughlan

Leper · Jan 5, 2005

1. Port
2. West Coast
3. Brisbane
4. Saints
5. Sydney
6. Bombers
7. Collingwood
8. Carlton
9. Geelong
10. North Melb
11. Fremantle
12. Adelaide
13. Richmond
14. Melbourne
15. Bulldogs
16. Hawthorn

edit - and Australia to win the cricket!!!

Pie 4 Life · Jan 5, 2005

Rounds 1-11:
Team Pl W L PF PA Pts Perc
West Coast 11 9 2 1158 932 36 124.2
Bris Lions 11 9 2 1154 936 36 123.2
St Kilda 11 9 2 1098 992 36 110.6
Collingwood 11 8 3 1130 960 32 117.7
Geelong 11 7 4 1094 996 28 109.8
Port Adel 11 7 4 1080 1010 28 106.9
Fremantle 11 6 5 1070 1020 24 104.9
Sydney 11 6 5 1064 1026 24 103.7

Melbourne 11 6 5 1044 1046 24 99.8
Kangaroos 11 6 5 1042 1048 24 99.4
Essendon 11 5 6 1012 1078 20 93.8
Carlton 11 3 8 988 1102 12 89.6
W Bulldogs 11 3 8 978 1112 12 87.9
Adelaide 11 3 8 970 1120 12 86.6
Richmond 11 1 10 926 1164 4 79.5
Hawthorn 11 0 11 912 1178 0 77.4

Rounds 12-22:
Team Pl W L PF PA Pts Perc
Port Adel 22 16 6 2262 1918 64 117.9
Collingwood 22 16 6 2258 1922 64 117.4
St Kilda 22 16 6 2174 2006 64 108.3
West Coast 22 15 7 2246 1934 60 116.1
Bris Lions 22 15 7 2242 1938 60 115.6
Geelong 22 14 8 2160 2020 56 106.9
Kangaroos 22 12 10 2096 2084 48 100.5
Fremantle 22 11 11 2122 2058 44 103.1

Sydney 22 11 11 2106 2074 44 101.5
Essendon 22 10 12 2042 2138 40 95.5
Melbourne 22 9 13 1996 2184 36 91.3
Adelaide 22 8 14 2012 2168 32 92.8
Carlton 22 7 15 1984 2196 28 90.3
W Bulldogs 22 7 15 1934 2246 28 86.1
Richmond 22 6 16 1928 2252 24 85.6
Hawthorn 22 3 19 1878 2302 12 81.5

Premiers: Geelong
2nd: Port Adelaide
3rd: West Coast
4th: Collingwood
5th: St.Kilda
6th: Kangaroos
7th: Brisbane
8th: Fremantle

Some interesting stats;
Port Adelaide won 9 of their last 11 games
Richmond won 5 of their last 11 games but still finished 15th
Fremantle finished only 1.6% in front of Sydney in 8th-9th spot
Melbourne only won 3 of it's last 11 games
From the start it was only out of those top 6 teams, their had a huge margiin over the rest of the field.

rick James · Jan 5, 2005

1. St Kilda
2. Melbourne
3. Port
4. Geelong
5. West coast
6. Brisbane
7. Fremantle
8. Sydney

9. Essendon
10. Carlton
11. Bulldogs
12. Kangaroos
13. Richmond
14. Collingwood
15. Adelaide
16. Hawthorn

Brownlow: T Johnstone

snappytom · Jan 5, 2005

mission impossible
but the bookies odds for the spoon and the flag are very enticing right now so its a good time for a bet.
my prediction

1 port adelaide premiers again
2 st kilda
3 fremantle
4 brisbane
5 geelong
6 sydney swans
7 collingwood
8 western bulldogs

9 wet toast
10 hawthorn
11 richmond
12 carlton
13 adelaide crows
14 kangaroos
15 melbourne
16 essendon get on with the bookies odds of over 80 /1 with some at the moment

brownlow medal ? who knows what an umpire will do?
judd shouild poll well again
smoky could be byron schammer

leonmagic · Jan 5, 2005

Pie 4 Life said:
Premiers: Geelong

lol.

LoneStar · Jan 5, 2005

1 - Saints
2 - Power
3 - Cats
4 - Kangaroos
5 - Lions
6 - Dockers
7 - Swans
8 - Demons
..................
09 - Bombers
10 - Magpies
11 - Eagles
12 - Hawks
13 - Blues
14 - Crows
15 - Tigers
16 - Bulldogs

linuscambridge · Jan 5, 2005

St Kilda
Bris Lions
Port Adel
West Coast
Geelong
Sydney
Melbourne
Fremantle

Collingwood
W Bulldogs
Carlton
Essendon
Richmond
Kangaroos
Hawthorn
Adelaide

rosejam · Jan 5, 2005

this is using the allthestats fixture

GROUP 1
St Kilda 72 -And I thought I was taking the bias out of it
Bris Lions 72 -Still a force
West Coast 72 - I didn't realise I rated them so highly
Geelong 68 - Can't see them beating the ones above...
Port Adel 68 - Could be above geelong

GAP

GROUP 2
Sydney 64 - A solid team with out being great
Melbourne 56 - Over achieved this year but still a good side
Fremantle 48 - I thought they would be higher than this

GAP

GROUP 3
Essendon 40 - Youngsters bar a couple struggle
Kangaroos 40 - Maybe a bad year for the roos but too much pride for bottom6

GAP

GROUP 4
Carlton 32 - Will be the strongest of the bottom teams, more developed
Adelaide 28 - Will have to rebuild
Richmond 20 - are rebuilding
W Bulldogs 16 - see above
Collingwood 8 - Didn't mean for them to be this low must say something

Hawthorn 0 - Spida in leadership group, they remind me of what we used to be...

In amoungst the groups you could juggle the places....
Group 1 is 1-5 - The teams that will thrash others
Group 2 is 6-8 - The teams that are solid and win the games expected
Group 3 is 9-10 - Need to rebuild
Group 4 is 11-16 - Currently rebuilding or desperatly need to

nic_rox13 · Jan 5, 2005

metallichris said:
1. St. Kilda
2. Port Adelaide
3. Geelong
4. Brisbane Lions
5. West Coast
6. Collingwood
7. Sydney
8. Kangaroos

9. Melbourne
10. Carlton
11. Essendon
12. Richmond
13. Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn
16. Western Bulldogs

hmmm mine is:
1. St. Kilda
2. Port Adelaide
3. Geelong
4. West Coast
5. Brisbane Lions
6. Sydney
7. Melbourne
8. Kangaroos
9. Essendon
10. Carlton
11. Fremantle
12. Richmond
13. Adelaide
14. Collingwood
15. Hawthorn
16. Western Bulldogs

bluey17 · Jan 5, 2005

1. St Kilda
2. Port Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Geelong
5. West Coast
6. Melbourne
7. Sydney
8. Fremantle

9. Essendon
10. North Melbourne
11. Adelaide
12. Carlton
13. Collingwood
14. Hawthorn
15. Richmond
16. Bulldogs

Premiers - St Kilda

Brownlow - Dal Santo

Coleman Medal - Lloyd

Trying to be as unbiased as possible

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