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2 Aug 2006, 13:58
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BigFooty Senior Member
Villa, Browns & Pistons
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Geelong
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Hypothetical
Sorry in advance if this has already been mentioned
I was writing something up on the blog (a rare occurance I know  ) and this rumor I heard a couple of weeks ago popped into my mind and I'd be interested to hear the boards opinion on this...
Hypothetically say Bomber is resigns/is fired come the end of the season & we're in the market for a new coach and we looked at getting this man:
Thoughts?
It definitely would be a plus to have him teaching Tom Hawkins from the very start of his AFL career and I think he would have the full respect of the playing group for his career on the field...
Remember, I'm just throwing this out there, so dicuss.
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2 Aug 2006, 14:02
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Re: Hypothetical
It has been mentioned before, but that's OK. Some people think he's a sleaze-bag and wouldn't want him. I, for one, would not object at all.
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2 Aug 2006, 14:08
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BigFooty Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rville
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Re: Hypothetical
Re: Sleeze bag, there's thousands on thousands of men and women who hold positions of fame / power / authority and have had affairs etc. Yes they are **** for doing so, but it's doesn't change their ability to be successful.
Having said that there's way to many people who wouldn't accept Carey because of this, and this could hurt the club's back pocket.
Me - I'd jump at having him head coach, the point of having T.Hawkins from his AFL get-go I couldn't agree more with.
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2 Aug 2006, 14:14
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BigFooty Member
Storm (Robbed 06)
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Canberra
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Re: Hypothetical
I didn't like Carey before he ****ed his best mates wife. I mean I don't know him personally, so I don't think I can properly judge him as a person. I sure as hell do not want him as coach though.
By the way I saw him coach during the legends game.............he's not great.
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2 Aug 2006, 14:19
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BigFooty Member
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by jacross
I didn't like Carey before he ****ed his best mates wife. I mean I don't know him personally, so I don't think I can properly judge him as a person. I sure as hell do not want him as coach though.
By the way I saw him coach during the legends game.............he's not great.
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Fair enough, but why wouldn't you want him as a coach?
Also, the Legends Game is a highly serious affair, so if he didn't do well in that, geez he must be cr&p  !
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2 Aug 2006, 14:21
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BigFooty Senior Member
West Ham, Wozniacki > Ivanovic
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Outrunning Mido
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Re: Hypothetical
There's definitely better out there.
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2 Aug 2006, 22:08
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BigFooty Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Re: Hypothetical
The day that arrogant a***hole comes to Geelong, is the day i tear up my membership.
(empty threat, i know.. but it dont mean i have to like it  )
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3 Aug 2006, 08:32
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BigFooty Member
GEELONG
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Never Never Land
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by Shell
The day that arrogant a***hole comes to Geelong, is the day i tear up my membership.
(empty threat, i know.. but it dont mean i have to like it  )
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Dont believe that for one second. It would be pretty hard to tear your memebership up because they are plastic, DOPEY! You'd have to be pretty strong.
You might be able to cut your membership up though...
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3 Aug 2006, 13:07
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BigFooty Elite Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by thehoff
Dont believe that for one second. It would be pretty hard to tear your memebership up because they are plastic, DOPEY! You'd have to be pretty strong.
You might be able to cut your membership up though... 
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Oh im not just pretty stong.. im FREAKISHLY strong..
But if i need advice/help/guidance on tearing up memeberships, i'll go to the Richmond Board!!
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3 Aug 2006, 08:39
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BigFooty Senior Member
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by Shell
The day that arrogant a***hole comes to Geelong, is the day i tear up my membership.
(empty threat, i know.. but it dont mean i have to like it  )
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you forgot philanderopous studies.
i second shells motion, if carey comes to geelong we should all walk out.
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3 Aug 2006, 08:44
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BigFooty Member
GEELONG
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Never Never Land
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by darren forssman
you forgot philanderopous studies.
i second shells motion, if carey comes to geelong we should all walk out.
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Daz, whats up with you? Normally i agree with most things you say, however rejecting one of the greatest players to ever play the game would be a mistake.
I'd open the King with open arms... We need all the help we can get.
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3 Aug 2006, 09:58
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BigFooty Member
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Re: Hypothetical
that won't be the only thing you're openin' up!!!!!
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3 Aug 2006, 10:06
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BigFooty Member
Cats/Cowboys
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by thehoff
Daz, whats up with you? Normally i agree with most things you say, however rejecting one of the greatest players to ever play the game would be a mistake.
I'd open the King with open arms... We need all the help we can get.
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Creswell is the only candidate atm but unless something has changed he is not available.
As for Carey - he is UNPROVEN. Just because he was a great player it doesn't mean he will be a great coach. Even if he does have what it takes he does not have senior coaching experience. With the list we have we do not need to be the ones blooding a "new to coaching" new coach. It is insanity. Just when we have got the list to a point when we are close to having the talent to have a real crack we go and bring in a green coach.
NO - we need a proven performer or someone who has shown they have what it takes at assistant level. IF NOT WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE.
We have had a bad year - yes. So did Melb, a few times in the Daniher era but they have resisted the temptation to do something stupid and are a real chance this year.
I can't understand this "he has had seven years" stuff. So what. What would you have done differently prior to 04? What would have got us to being a flag contender any faster other than finishing bottom 2 years in a row? What would be changed (discounting the benefit of hindsight)? Not much.
We had two pretty good years in 04, 05, probably better than expected.
06 sucked. We have had a bad year. So what does that have to do with the previous 6? The arguments put forward seem to actually have little to do with the previous 6 years and everything to do with 2006.
If Bomber had been cr@p for the previous 6 then yes you have a point but I don't think that is the case. Lets face it, this is all about a bad 2006, a lot of which cannot be directly placed at Thompson's feet.
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3 Aug 2006, 11:02
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BigFooty Elite Member
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by malvern
If Bomber had been cr@p for the previous 6 then yes you have a point but I don't think that is the case. Lets face it, this is all about a bad 2006, a lot of which cannot be directly placed at Thompson's feet.
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I draw your attention malvern to the fitness problems the side has had over the last 2 years. You can't tell me that his programs are well put together when he is declaring our side is finally fit in round 16. Now I know you will say he isn't the fitness coach and the side has had injuries etc. But if you think that Bomber has no say in the fitness training at the club then that is a little naive.
The other questionable side to his coaching is his match day decisions. He coaches like a man who has made a plan before the match and sticks to it no matter what. Now this is fine if the side is winning. But as has happened too many times this year his approach has been costly with some players being soundly thrashed. This inabilty to react quickly to the dynamic of the games is a worrying aspect of his coaching.
The next thing is the players attitudes have been questionable this year and he should be able to get their minds on the job. That is his job. Yet he looks just as lost as we are sometimes about why the players are playing the way they are. Is this how you want the Senior Coach to be? Not me.
Costa promised a Premiership by 2006 when he took over. Bomber has had time to turn this side into a premiership side and has come close. I don't dislike him, but just think his time is up. The buck has to stop somewhere and it should be with him. Some of the players will get their rewards for their questionable attitudes/abilities in the draft this year.
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3 Aug 2006, 16:44
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BigFooty Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne
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Re: Hypothetical
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Originally Posted by malvern
Creswell is the only candidate atm but unless something has changed he is not available.
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What about Don Pyke?
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