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as its coming towards the real deal, i thought id post a summary of what everyone picked in the trial run and why, so people can get a feel for the players (and the people picking them
) without going thru 69 pages. so here we have the poster, the pick and the reasoning behind it, with a little description of most of the players alongside it, done by the poster who made the selection. (tardiness/loss of interest in the case of some selectors caused their picks to be taken from the highest player left in grub29's rankings, which are here)
anyone who chose a player and didnt leave comments and would like to do so PM them to me and ill add them (macca, gilly, LH15, grub...and any of you guys who picked and would like to elaborate on freo and st kildas selections as it appears wizard and king james have lost interest)
i have also elaborated on a couple of the players i selected myself.
1st ROUND
1. Carlton (HugeBluesFan) ----------------------- Bryce Gibbs
Genuine mid with superb skills. Not lightning quick, but his football ability certainly makes up for this. Already playing SANFL footy for Glenelg, and will surely debut in round one next year.
Carltons midfield is in need of urgent repair, and a midfield with Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson, Stevens, Blackwell and Scotland certainly appeals.
2. Essendon (mcphee_is_a_gun) ----------------- Scott Gumbleton
Good sized KPP has already played against men and held his own.He has great courage as shown by the Under 18's carnival and would have to be the best Contestested mark in the Draft. He also is very versatile can play CHB, CHF and even the ruck.
Also adding i chose Gumbleton over Hansen because i believe he has more upside and the ability to dominate games at CHB or CHF where as Hansen's offensive games isnt as good as Gumby.
3. Kangaroos (Scottroo) ------------------------- Lachlan Hansen
A KPP who has the abilty to play back or forward, good athletically and has some pace, exactly what the kangaroos need, the kangaroos beleive he can hold down a KP for 12-13 years
4. Brisbane (Irel) -------------------------------- Mitch Thorp
My philosophy; the first two picks in the draft should always be 'best player available" irrespective of position, size, shape, club's requirement and need etc...
IMO as it stands at the moment it's a line ball between Thorpe and Matthew Leuenberger. Thorp got the nod. Just.
5. Port Adelaide (johnson_26) -------------------- James Sellar
Disapointing nationals where reports were he had the flu. Anyone who was present at the U16's nationals in 2005 would have witnessed what he is capable of.
Strong hands, big kick, fantastic leap, very much a josh fraser type ruckmen who would be more suited to a CHF/CHB position in AFL ranks. Runs like a ruck rover with plenty of speed and agility, as well as a good running capacity aerobically. Looks awkward with his kicking but effective. Could possibly turn into a Riewoldt type with the guidance of some foward coaching.
AIS-AFL Academy 2005-2006, Kevin Sheehan Medallist 2005. Local boy (no go home factor)
6. Hawthorn (LukeHodge15) ---------------------- Leroy Jetta
Jetta has so many ticks in so many areas its scarey.
*genuine midfielder, had queries after watching the champs last year wether he could be a genuine midfielder as most of his work was done off the HFF in 2005. QUERIES GONE. already gathered over 30 possesions in the WAFL - proven against men & played majority of champs in the middle. his future lies in the middle at AFL level.
*his recovery and ability to get back to his feet in any situation was first class. many times both he and his opponent went to ground and he was up and off with the footy while his opponent was still getting up.
*clearnece work was also top class. not only does he have blistering pace and can run the lines (break games open) but his inside work in traffic was very good. will carve out a career in the middle imo. strong body so rarely goes to ground
*outstanding vertical leap. so in essence plays a little taller than his 175cm frame.
*loves to take them on and has that little bit of arrogance that very good footballer have. im sure he would have been tested many times at senior level this year by men wanting to bring the young fella back down to earth. will have to chase up some stats from the WAFL this year.
*GAME BREAKER !!! will win games off his own boot. had chances to tear the first game to bits at the champs, but his kicking was a little off when shooting at goal on the run. (last year he rarely missed) By memory, would have kicked close to 5 points in game one and could have easily kicked 6-7 if things had gone his way.
QUERIES - kicking needs a little work. but nothing to be worried about. when travelling flat out, sometimes clanger kicks.
- height will worry some recruiters but guys like wallace will be fantasizing about him already.
7. Geelong (Diablo14) ----------------------- Matthew Leuenberger
the most promising ruckman ive seen come thru in quite some time. has excellent hands, is a good kick, can play out a full 120 minutes of footy, gets to every contest, great judgement in the air and on the deck, and brings other players into the game with footy nous.
my only concern will be a possible loss of mobility once the inevitable beefing up process starts.
ive gone with him based on the best available policy, plus im pretty confident that the player i want next will still be available with our next pick.
8. Richmond (philhawk) -------------------------- Jack Riewoldt
The kid is a gun and admittedly would fit into Richmonds team structure very, very well. Richo wont last forever and Shulz/Pettifer aside, there really is a dearth of KPP over at Tigerland.
From all reports, Jack has the ability to play both up forward and down back. Seeing as how he possesses a fantastic kick on either boot, this would fit in well into Wallaves drafting mantra over the past few years (kids who all are a good kick of the ball).
His pace might be the only question mark (off the mark I believe), but it's something that can be worked on.
9. St Kilda (Kingjames) -------------------------- Albert Proud
With Joel Selwood being injured Albert is the safer option and will be ready for league footy straight away, which suits them as its time to win a flag.
Could be very dangerous with the star midfielders Luke Ball and Lenny Hayes being tagged. Saints dont really need another Ball in Selwood anyway.
10. Collingwood (Snoopdog) ---------------------- Joel Selwood
Selwood is a hard, inside mid who has excellent footballing instincts and excels in the tight, contested situation. Not explosive off the mark, but reasonable leg speed. Seems to be the one to move first to get the ball at stoppages, and never shies from physical contact. Solid kicking skills, but best attribute is vision and clean hands. Leadership qualities.
Would be handy in a developing midfield winning in tight and feeding the ball out to outside youngsters in Pendlebury, Thomas, Shaw, Cook, and Didak.(comments courtesy of King Woodie)
11. Western Bulldogs (Grub29) ------------------- Eric McKenzie
he's an AIS kid that has good size,195cm,who is super athletic.I don't think he's played much other than colts at Claremont but he showed a bit at the Under 18 Championships in defensive roles.At this stage he could be harder and more aggressive but he is disciplined and has the pace to always get their and make a spoil.Hard to make a comparison with another player at the moment though.
Tossed up between MacKenzie and Reid but went with MacKenazie because of the stronger body.
The reasoning behind this selection is that the Bullies are in need of big strong key defenders,which this bloke is, but he also fits the athletic running game that Eade has implemented as well.
12. Melbourne (Gilly1972) ------------------------ Clinton Benjamin
his versatility would suit the dees, they could use him off the HBF or playing on the third opposition tall forward, then using his pace and flair to run off his opponent with the ball.....he could also be swung up forward and provide another marking forward option if robbo is injured....or he could take Green's role on the wing and free him to go up forward.
13. Fremantle (Wizard9) ------------------------- Tom Hislop
14. West Coast (Macca69/sinepari) -------------- Clayton Collard
A versatile and attacking aboriginal player from South Freo. Sublime skills on both sides, whose only question mark is whether or not he can make a move into the midfield at the next level. Decently sized, however could do with some extra muscle(what 18yr old couldn't!). Terrific goal sense, where his flair, pace and skills make him a tough match-up. Likely HFF/Wingman at AFL level. (comments by sinepari)
15. Sydney (Macca) ----------------------------- Brock O'Brien
Physical rebounding small defender. Has excellent hands and is very good in the air and rarely gets beaten 1 on 1. Is pretty quick also, and reads the play very well. Also rarely makes a wrong decision, which is crucial when playing as a defender. Given his attributes a club could easily decide to play him as a midfielder, as he definitely has the capacity to do so (although not sure about his aerobic fitness).
16. Adelaide (Thunderstruck) --------------------- Daniel Connors
Adelaide pride themselves on hard players who are strong at the footy and use the ball with skill and Connors is no exception. To continue the replenishment of a midfield that will rapidly lose some grunt in coming years (Ricciuto, Goodwin, McLeod, Edwards) are all getting on and even tho we have Knights, Van Berlo, Reilly, Porplyzia, Douglas, Vince, Pfieffer, they are not enough.
Good in traffic, excellent foot skills, and strong overhead 184cm 77kg so not a undersized type, may grow a tad more and end up a strong bodied player that we need.
anyone who chose a player and didnt leave comments and would like to do so PM them to me and ill add them (macca, gilly, LH15, grub...and any of you guys who picked and would like to elaborate on freo and st kildas selections as it appears wizard and king james have lost interest)
i have also elaborated on a couple of the players i selected myself.
1st ROUND
1. Carlton (HugeBluesFan) ----------------------- Bryce Gibbs
Genuine mid with superb skills. Not lightning quick, but his football ability certainly makes up for this. Already playing SANFL footy for Glenelg, and will surely debut in round one next year.
Carltons midfield is in need of urgent repair, and a midfield with Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson, Stevens, Blackwell and Scotland certainly appeals.
2. Essendon (mcphee_is_a_gun) ----------------- Scott Gumbleton
Good sized KPP has already played against men and held his own.He has great courage as shown by the Under 18's carnival and would have to be the best Contestested mark in the Draft. He also is very versatile can play CHB, CHF and even the ruck.
Also adding i chose Gumbleton over Hansen because i believe he has more upside and the ability to dominate games at CHB or CHF where as Hansen's offensive games isnt as good as Gumby.
3. Kangaroos (Scottroo) ------------------------- Lachlan Hansen
A KPP who has the abilty to play back or forward, good athletically and has some pace, exactly what the kangaroos need, the kangaroos beleive he can hold down a KP for 12-13 years
4. Brisbane (Irel) -------------------------------- Mitch Thorp
My philosophy; the first two picks in the draft should always be 'best player available" irrespective of position, size, shape, club's requirement and need etc...
IMO as it stands at the moment it's a line ball between Thorpe and Matthew Leuenberger. Thorp got the nod. Just.
5. Port Adelaide (johnson_26) -------------------- James Sellar
Disapointing nationals where reports were he had the flu. Anyone who was present at the U16's nationals in 2005 would have witnessed what he is capable of.
Strong hands, big kick, fantastic leap, very much a josh fraser type ruckmen who would be more suited to a CHF/CHB position in AFL ranks. Runs like a ruck rover with plenty of speed and agility, as well as a good running capacity aerobically. Looks awkward with his kicking but effective. Could possibly turn into a Riewoldt type with the guidance of some foward coaching.
AIS-AFL Academy 2005-2006, Kevin Sheehan Medallist 2005. Local boy (no go home factor)
6. Hawthorn (LukeHodge15) ---------------------- Leroy Jetta
Jetta has so many ticks in so many areas its scarey.
*genuine midfielder, had queries after watching the champs last year wether he could be a genuine midfielder as most of his work was done off the HFF in 2005. QUERIES GONE. already gathered over 30 possesions in the WAFL - proven against men & played majority of champs in the middle. his future lies in the middle at AFL level.
*his recovery and ability to get back to his feet in any situation was first class. many times both he and his opponent went to ground and he was up and off with the footy while his opponent was still getting up.
*clearnece work was also top class. not only does he have blistering pace and can run the lines (break games open) but his inside work in traffic was very good. will carve out a career in the middle imo. strong body so rarely goes to ground
*outstanding vertical leap. so in essence plays a little taller than his 175cm frame.
*loves to take them on and has that little bit of arrogance that very good footballer have. im sure he would have been tested many times at senior level this year by men wanting to bring the young fella back down to earth. will have to chase up some stats from the WAFL this year.
*GAME BREAKER !!! will win games off his own boot. had chances to tear the first game to bits at the champs, but his kicking was a little off when shooting at goal on the run. (last year he rarely missed) By memory, would have kicked close to 5 points in game one and could have easily kicked 6-7 if things had gone his way.
QUERIES - kicking needs a little work. but nothing to be worried about. when travelling flat out, sometimes clanger kicks.
- height will worry some recruiters but guys like wallace will be fantasizing about him already.
7. Geelong (Diablo14) ----------------------- Matthew Leuenberger
the most promising ruckman ive seen come thru in quite some time. has excellent hands, is a good kick, can play out a full 120 minutes of footy, gets to every contest, great judgement in the air and on the deck, and brings other players into the game with footy nous.
my only concern will be a possible loss of mobility once the inevitable beefing up process starts.
ive gone with him based on the best available policy, plus im pretty confident that the player i want next will still be available with our next pick.
8. Richmond (philhawk) -------------------------- Jack Riewoldt
The kid is a gun and admittedly would fit into Richmonds team structure very, very well. Richo wont last forever and Shulz/Pettifer aside, there really is a dearth of KPP over at Tigerland.
From all reports, Jack has the ability to play both up forward and down back. Seeing as how he possesses a fantastic kick on either boot, this would fit in well into Wallaves drafting mantra over the past few years (kids who all are a good kick of the ball).
His pace might be the only question mark (off the mark I believe), but it's something that can be worked on.
9. St Kilda (Kingjames) -------------------------- Albert Proud
With Joel Selwood being injured Albert is the safer option and will be ready for league footy straight away, which suits them as its time to win a flag.
Could be very dangerous with the star midfielders Luke Ball and Lenny Hayes being tagged. Saints dont really need another Ball in Selwood anyway.
10. Collingwood (Snoopdog) ---------------------- Joel Selwood
Selwood is a hard, inside mid who has excellent footballing instincts and excels in the tight, contested situation. Not explosive off the mark, but reasonable leg speed. Seems to be the one to move first to get the ball at stoppages, and never shies from physical contact. Solid kicking skills, but best attribute is vision and clean hands. Leadership qualities.
Would be handy in a developing midfield winning in tight and feeding the ball out to outside youngsters in Pendlebury, Thomas, Shaw, Cook, and Didak.(comments courtesy of King Woodie)
11. Western Bulldogs (Grub29) ------------------- Eric McKenzie
he's an AIS kid that has good size,195cm,who is super athletic.I don't think he's played much other than colts at Claremont but he showed a bit at the Under 18 Championships in defensive roles.At this stage he could be harder and more aggressive but he is disciplined and has the pace to always get their and make a spoil.Hard to make a comparison with another player at the moment though.
Tossed up between MacKenzie and Reid but went with MacKenazie because of the stronger body.
The reasoning behind this selection is that the Bullies are in need of big strong key defenders,which this bloke is, but he also fits the athletic running game that Eade has implemented as well.
12. Melbourne (Gilly1972) ------------------------ Clinton Benjamin
his versatility would suit the dees, they could use him off the HBF or playing on the third opposition tall forward, then using his pace and flair to run off his opponent with the ball.....he could also be swung up forward and provide another marking forward option if robbo is injured....or he could take Green's role on the wing and free him to go up forward.
13. Fremantle (Wizard9) ------------------------- Tom Hislop
14. West Coast (Macca69/sinepari) -------------- Clayton Collard
A versatile and attacking aboriginal player from South Freo. Sublime skills on both sides, whose only question mark is whether or not he can make a move into the midfield at the next level. Decently sized, however could do with some extra muscle(what 18yr old couldn't!). Terrific goal sense, where his flair, pace and skills make him a tough match-up. Likely HFF/Wingman at AFL level. (comments by sinepari)
15. Sydney (Macca) ----------------------------- Brock O'Brien
Physical rebounding small defender. Has excellent hands and is very good in the air and rarely gets beaten 1 on 1. Is pretty quick also, and reads the play very well. Also rarely makes a wrong decision, which is crucial when playing as a defender. Given his attributes a club could easily decide to play him as a midfielder, as he definitely has the capacity to do so (although not sure about his aerobic fitness).
16. Adelaide (Thunderstruck) --------------------- Daniel Connors
Adelaide pride themselves on hard players who are strong at the footy and use the ball with skill and Connors is no exception. To continue the replenishment of a midfield that will rapidly lose some grunt in coming years (Ricciuto, Goodwin, McLeod, Edwards) are all getting on and even tho we have Knights, Van Berlo, Reilly, Porplyzia, Douglas, Vince, Pfieffer, they are not enough.
Good in traffic, excellent foot skills, and strong overhead 184cm 77kg so not a undersized type, may grow a tad more and end up a strong bodied player that we need.



