Players attending the 2008 NAB AFL Draft Camp

Looks pretty good - I can't notice any real noticeable omissions from the Victorian side of things.

So Watts has definitely nominated then?

ian richardson gets an invite but no hayden ballantyne?

anyone got info on steven motlop?

Is Adam Varcoe a relative of Travis?

ACT misses out again.

And this is the state that NSW-ACT AFL deem too 'developed' for young players to be offered scholarships like the rest of NSW.

This will be 12 years of draft drought.

What has AFL got against Canberra?

Cylon7 said:

ACT misses out again.

And this is the state that NSW-ACT AFL deem too 'developed' for young players to be offered scholarships like the rest of NSW.

This will be 12 years of draft drought.

What has AFL got against Canberra?

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Who from the ACT should have got an invite Cylon?
IMHO I don't believe anyone that is eligible is good enough.

one 4 the road said:

Who from the ACT should have got an invite Cylon?
IMHO I don't believe anyone that is eligible is good enough.

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I believe Cylon's point is exactly that, no one from ACT should have been invited this year, once again. Therefore kids from ACT should be able to get scholarships to AFL clubs like kids from the rest of NSW to further develop the talent pool and interest.

Notice Brown didn't get invited. Anyone know why, how etc: Is he the next Mourish, overrated on bigfooty?
Or did clubs not want to invite him because he is a smokey? I think playing games in the TAC cup leaves you pretty exposed to all clubs so can't see clubs not inviting him to hide him from any clubs?

Thoughts?

Thanks bf_justanotherfan. It was my point.

Statistically you would expect a region as big as the ACT to have had someone invited to the draft in the last 12 years..another James Hird or Craig Bolton. And I'm afraid one single rookie draftee in 12 yrs doesn't cut it either. So you can only conclude that the region is being ignored/overlooked by recruiters or that players are not being sufficiently developed and therefore not good enough.

In actual fact it is getting harder for our players as now they must compete with the NSW scholarship players to get a place on the RAMs state team. The scholarship players are receiving:
- 10-20,000 per year for up to three yrs which helps them travel etc
- they receive coaching/development from the AFL teams that select them
- and most importantly the Sydney scholarship holders receive around 5-6 months of twice per week coaching with the state coaches - Rams...the kids from the ACT don't receive this so when selection etc comes around you could be forgiven for being paranoid about suspecting that some bias towards scholarship holders exists.

The scholarship kids also receive the coverage on the AFLACT websites which could also have the effect of magnifying their profile. Every day there seems to be another Sydney kid receiving a scholarship.

For a kid wanting to make it in the ACT there are no role models. There is no belief that you can make it to the draft. And yet AFL persists in saying that the ACT is a 'developed' footy state in no need of the scholarship system that most of NSW receives?

Only ONE from QLD?

What a far cry from the 2006 draft where I think they had 13 drafted players.

BigCat2 said:

So Watts has definitely nominated then?

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No.

Nominations close some time in November I think. He's just going to draft camp.

Jason_K said:

Only ONE from QLD?

What a far cry from the 2006 draft where I think they had 13 drafted players.

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25 Dayne Beams QLD Southport
There was only 1 that should have been invited, Its the BEST from around the Country not just anybody that wants a go!

Its only draft camp guys, not any sort of final list. There is still all the kids for state screening in the mix as well
The only difference is these kids where nominated by more clubs.

Cylon7 said:

ACT misses out again.

And this is the state that NSW-ACT AFL deem too 'developed' for young players to be offered scholarships like the rest of NSW.

This will be 12 years of draft drought.

What has AFL got against Canberra?

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The AFL has not got anything against Canberra as far as draft camp goes. To get to draft camp you have to be nominated as a player of interest by several clubs. If the clubs are not interested then you don't get to go. If only a few are interested then you may get a state screening.

pinkus maximus said:

ian richardson gets an invite but no hayden ballantyne?

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Stats from WAFL for WA National Draft Camp invitees
More information found at-

http://www.sportingpulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-2393-0-64429-0&pool=-1&round=0&a=STATS

Ian Richardson (Cl) 20 yrs
19 games 13.6 possessions and 5.1 marks per game
Kicked 60 goals and 25 points
WA State player
WA V Qld - Simpson medalist 2008


18s State players who have played more than 6 games of WAFL League (senior footy) in 2008

Remember the WA boys listed below are playing against senior players, many with current AFL experience, not against under 19 year olds in colts or school footy!!
Let’s keep their performances in perspective when comparing players, especially from Melbourne.

Dan Rich (S) 18 yrs
2008 WAFL Season
15 games av 15.2 possessions 3.2 marks and 1.2 goals per game
WA State U21 Team 2008
All Australian 18s player 2007 and 2008
18s 5 games 16 possessions and 2.6 marks/game

Matt DeBoer (Cl) 18 yrs
2008 WAFL season
14 games av 17.2 possessions and 3.8 marks per game
WA State U21 Team 2008
All Australian 18s player 2008
18s 5 games 20.1 possessions and 5 marks/game
Joint Best and Fairest for WA

Nic Naitanui (SD) 18 yrs
2008 WAFL season
15 games 10.6 possessions and 2.0 marks/game
WA State U21 Team 2008
18s 5 games 12.6 possessions and 2.4 marks per game
All Australian 18s player 2007 and 2008

Chris Yarran (SD) 18 yrs
2008 WAFL season
11 games 14.3 possessions and 3 marks/game
Kicked 34 goals and 19 points
State U21 Team 2008
18s 4 games 11.5 possessions and 3.2 marks per game
Kicked 8 goals and 5 points


Clancee Pearce (SD) 18 yrs
2008 WAFL season
7 games 16.3 possessions and 5.3 marks per game
All Australian 18s player 2008
5 games 18 possessions and 4.2 marks per game
Named MVP for WA

Stephen Hill (WP) 18 years
2008 WAFL season
6 games 12 possessions and 2.1 marks per game
All Australian 18s player 2008
5 games 13.4 possessions and 3 marks per game
Joint Best and Fairest for WA

These are the Victorian draft camp and state screening lists as posted on footyvic.com



Surname Name State League Club Category
Gaylor Josh VIC Bendigo Pioneers Vic Country Screen
Hall Jake VIC Bendigo Pioneers Vic Country Screen
Page Shane VIC Bendigo Pioneers Vic Country Screen

McKernan Shaun VIC Calder Cannons DC
Trengove Jackson VIC Calder Cannons DC
Duhau Andrew VIC Calder Cannons Vic Metro Screen
Hayes Patrick VIC Calder Cannons Vic Metro Screen

Smith Ashley VIC Dandenong Stingrays DC
Hallahan James VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen
Gillies Tom VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen
Goodingham Alex VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen
Purves Aaron VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen
Savage Shane VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen
Gaertner Steven VIC Dandenong Stingrays Vic Metro Screen

Blease Sam VIC Eastern Ranges DC
Sloane Rory VIC Eastern Ranges DC
Lofthouse Grant VIC Eastern Ranges Vic Metro Screen
O'Keefe Nathan VIC Eastern Ranges Vic Metro Screen
Shiels Liam VIC Eastern Ranges Vic Metro Screen
Walker Dale VIC Eastern Ranges Vic Metro Screen
Purcell Tom VIC Eastern Ranges Vic Metro Screen

Bucovaz Ben VIC Geelong Falcons DC
Cordy Ayce VIC Geelong Falcons DC
Jones Jordan VIC Geelong Falcons DC
Ledin Zach VIC Geelong Falcons DC
Simpkin Tom VIC Geelong Falcons DC
Hollmer Lewis VIC Geelong Falcons Vic Country Screen
Hughes Sam VIC Geelong Falcons Vic Country Screen
McKenzie Jordie VIC Geelong Falcons Vic Country Screen
Rounds Luke VIC Geelong Falcons Vic Country Screen
Thompson Luke VIC Geelong Falcons Vic Country Screen

Heyne Nick VIC Gippsland Power DC
Francis Tristan VIC Gippsland Power Vic Country Screen
Heath Campbell VIC Gippsland Power Vic Country Screen
Risol Jarrad VIC Gippsland Power Vic Country Screen
Ryan Tim VIC Gippsland Power Vic Country Screen
Weston Jack VIC Gippsland Power Vic Country Screen

Klemke Kade VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
McNeil Dylan VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Sidebottom Steele VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Sheahan Jamie VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Wright Sam VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Ziebell Jack VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Milne Riley VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Rockliff Tom VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Tiller Caleb VIC Murray Bushrangers DC
Browne Andrew VIC Murray Bushrangers Vic Country Screen
Birthisel Ben VIC Murray Bushrangers Vic Country Screen
Duryea Taylor VIC Murray Bushrangers Vic Country Screen
Daniels Jamson VIC Murray Bushrangers Vic Country Screen
Mangan Brad VIC Murray Bushrangers Vic Country Screen

Roughead Jordan VIC North Ballarat DC
Suban Nick VIC North Ballarat DC
Young Will VIC North Ballarat DC
Linke Jason VIC North Ballarat Vic Country Screen
Ruffles Tim VIC North Ballarat Vic Country Screen
Weadon Bryn VIC North Ballarat Vic Country Screen
Gilbert Ned VIC North Ballarat Vic Country Screen
Hooper Andrew VIC North Ballarat Vic Country Screen

Hill Tom VIC Northern Knights DC
Hurley Michael VIC Northern Knights DC
Zaharakis David VIC Northern Knights DC
Stanton Luke VIC Northern Knights Vic Metro Screen

Lisle Jordan VIC Oakleigh Chargers DC
Shuey Luke VIC Oakleigh Chargers DC
Strauss James VIC Oakleigh Chargers DC
Hannebery Dan VIC Oakleigh Chargers DC
Kilpin Matt VIC Oakleigh Chargers Vic Metro Screen
Clarke Zac VIC Oakleigh Chargers Vic Metro Screen
O'Sullivan Sam VIC Oakleigh Chargers Vic Metro Screen
Gotch Xavier VIC Oakleigh Chargers Vic Metro Screen
Van Unen Justin VIC Oakleigh Chargers Vic Metro Screen

Gilchrist Taylor VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Hunt Taylor VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Lynch Tom VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
McGarry Sam VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Vickery Tyrone VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Sengstock Zach VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Watts Jack VIC Sandringham Dragons DC
Brown Mitch VIC Sandringham Dragons Vic Metro Screen
Kennedy Ben VIC Sandringham Dragons Vic Metro Screen
Lowden Luke VIC Sandringham Dragons Vic Metro Screen

Banner Mitchell VIC Western Jets DC
Carroll Bryce VIC Western Jets DC
Post Jaydyn VIC Western Jets Vic Metro Screen
Rayner Johnny VIC Western Jets Vic Metro Screen

Lappin Angus VIC Melbourne Grammar Vic Metro Screen

Nahas Robin VIC Port Melbourne Vic Metro Screen
Markovic Lukas VIC Box Hill Vic Metro Screen

Watch out for the North Ballarat Boys

ant555 said:

Hill Tom VIC Northern Knights DC
Hurley Michael VIC Northern Knights DC
Zaharakis David VIC Northern Knights DC
Stanton Luke VIC Northern Knights Vic Metro Screen

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I take it this means that Michael Still isn't nominating.

The only logical conclusion as far as I'm concerned.

Cylon7 said:

Statistically you would expect a region as big as the ACT to have had someone invited to the draft in the last 12 years..another James Hird or Craig Bolton. And I'm afraid one single rookie draftee in 12 yrs doesn't cut it either.

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Just one? Wasn't James Meiklejohn from the ACT? That makes two (including Bruce, currently on the Swans' rookie list)

Doesn't alter the gist of your point, though!

Eagle Ant said:

25 Dayne Beams QLD Southport
There was only 1 that should have been invited, Its the BEST from around the Country not just anybody that wants a go!

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I wasn't having a crack at clubs for not nominating QLD players. I am just surprised (and disappointed I guess) at the sudden drop in talent from QLD when only a couple of years ago they had more than a dozen players drafted in the 'super-draft'.

GoDons said:

I take it this means that Michael Still isn't nominating.

The only logical conclusion as far as I'm concerned.

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None of these lists have anything to do with who has nominated and who hasn't. Matt DeBoer was at Draft Camp last year and didn't nominate in the end.

Still is going to State Screening, by the way. I overheard a couple of recruiters talking about his late call up at Visy Park last week.

Vic Crow said:

None of these lists have anything to do with who has nominated and who hasn't. Matt DeBoer was at Draft Camp last year and didn't nominate in the end.

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I'm aware of that, but as I understand, these lists represent club nominations of players, and I doubt a club would be nominating a player when they already had a prior indication that that player wasn't nominating. That's where the assumption came from.

Vic Crow said:

Still is going to State Screening, by the way. I overheard a couple of recruiters talking about his late call up at Visy Park last week.

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Good to know. Quite surprised he isn't going to Draft Camp and it took a late call to get him into the State Screenings.

He would've gone close to leading the Knights' goalkicking as a very underage kid, he's really got something about him.

Mind you, I suppose Draft Camp's only a mild indicator if past drafts are anything to go by.

GoDons said:

Good to know. Quite surprised he isn't going to Draft Camp and it took a late call to get him into the State Screenings.

He would've gone close to leading the Knights' goalkicking as a very underage kid, he's really got something about him.

Mind you, I suppose Draft Camp's only a mild indicator if past drafts are anything to go by.

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He had a patch in the middle of the season when he couldn't find the ball if it had a bell on it and he had a 10 minute head start. It was probably about the time when clubs were compiling their lists of 50.