I have said this before but i believe TBell moves like and has the potential and skills to match Brad Ottens. And for me if/when he gets there i will be absolutely stoked.
Retired # 2: Tom Bellchambers - Knocks Cam Mooney the **** out - 24/5
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Worse off... Meh... I'm quite happy to have Langford and cooney instead of that other guy
yaco55
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I look at it in this way - We have a premiership team - Is T-bell good enough to be the first ruck ? Yes.
Nothing wrong with TBC's hands...drop it on his head and he'll clunk it. Ryder will do the same but can also catch it in a varity of other scenarios.
Agreed - TBC is a genuine number 1 ruckman.
He played best when Ryder was injured and was first ruck.
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I am discussing a hypothetical - Can we win a premiership with T-Bell as first ruck ?
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Certainly, if the Hawks can win one with Max Bailey as their premier ruck then TBC is more than capable of doing the job.
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I believe we can. He was fantastic in 2013 as a ruck-forward, and would have continued on that form this year if his pre-season wasn't interrupted by injury. Obviously Giles is a fair downgrade as a partner compared to Ryder, but if Giles can compete and provide good support, I don't see why we can't win one. At his best TBC is a very good player.
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Agree, look at Hawthorn this year, had Mcevoy/Grimley as a #1 ruck man, and Bailey last year, and Sydney in 2012 had Pyke/a Mumford who was heavily underperforming, Pies had Darren Jolly in 2010. None of these guys are really superstars apart from Mumford who wasn't up to his usual standards in 2012. If a ruck man can feed the midfielders and have a relatively good impact around the ground then it serves a team bloody well as long as he has good midfielders around him
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Ceglar not Grimley, Grimley didn't play a game in 2014!
But yes, I absolutely agree with what you are saying.
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Yeah Ceglar my mistakeCeglar not Grimley, Grimley didn't play a game in 2014!
But yes, I absolutely agree with what you are saying.
Rack Watts
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I'm amazed that Essendon supporters can underrate Bellchambers so much. He was fantastic when Ryder went down last year.
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People also forget he's only 25.
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I don't think we under rate TBC. More so we compare TBC with the superior Paddy Ryder.
TBC has shown he can play to a high level, maybe not to the elite levels of Ryder but a serviceable player none the less.
Rack Watts
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I think we had two starting ruckman, one had to go. The more talented ruckman went, but I believe that Bellchambers is a harder worker. There's no reason why he can't be an excellent ruckman. He's even really handy around the ground as he runs to the right spots and can take a great grab. He could have a Sam Jacobs or Todd Goldstein type year, with possibly better statistics up forward. He's also got a swagger about him that we have missed.
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I love that grunt in Tom. Think it could really give us a hardened edge around the stoppages next year, similar to Mumford's presence for GWS.
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Spot on. I don't think you need a dominating ruckman, just someone who can nullify the opposing ruck. For example you don't want your third ruck option up against a Sandilands. When Freo-Blues played this year Freo had something like 75 hitouts to 25-30. Only won by a couple of points. It's having a ruck that can play well up forward that can have a real benefit. Obviously Ryder was good in that area but a fit TBC up forward was sometimes just as effective. Giles can take a grab as well.
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Every time I see there's a new post in this thread my first thought is "please don't tell me he's been injured".
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Should hopefully be up for a decent year. Most people forget that at the start of 2014, Bellchambers was the more highly regarded of our two ruckmen....
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