2012 Ladder Predictor (Competition)

[SaintsSeptember]

Who does everyone think will be the big slider and big improver of 2012.
I think Essendon will be lucky to finish top 12.
I think Fremantle will be pushing for top 4.

I think the Tigers may finally get a spot in the 8. They ARE getting stronger and I think the away games with travel are against the weaker sides ( Except Geelong ).

Sydney will stay strong off with the help of their SCG games.
WestCoast will go well, but will struggle to get that all important home final.
I'm thinking the difference between 9th and 1st could be as little as 5 wins, and to me Essendon are likely to be just in or just out of the 8.
I have Freo, North , Melbourne and Adelaide a few games below Essendon, then Bulldogs and Port struggling.

 

[Wernumberone]

Who does everyone think will be the big slider and big improver of 2012.
I think Essendon will be lucky to finish top 12.

So what do you see as the reason for us slipping 5 places from last year?

 

[Teeko]

Who does everyone think will be the big slider and big improver of 2012.
I think Essendon will be lucky to finish top 12.
I think Fremantle will be pushing for top 4.

Bombers made the finals last year despite having the toughest draw and a horrible run with injuries. It was also apparent that they weren't fit enough to sustain the new and more defensive game plan across four quarters.
We have a bunch of players around 20-21 years old in our best 22 who will have benefited from another preseason (Hurley, Heppel, Zaharakis, Melksham, Pears, Carlisle etc.)
So I see absolutely no reason why we should be 'lucky to finish top 12'.
Yes we got flogged by Carlton in the finals, but at least we made them.
We also beat better teams than North, Richmond or Melbourne.
I predict that we will finish 6th-9th.

 

[HappyChappy35]

1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. West Coast
5. Hawthorn
6. Fremantle
7. Footscray
8. North Melbourne
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9. Adelaide
10. Essendon
11. Sydney
12. Richmond
13. St. Kilda
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane Lions
16. Gold Coast
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS Giants

Rising Star: Dylan Shiel (GWS)
Coleman: Lance Franklin (83)
Brownlow: Chris Judd
Grand Final: Collingwood v Carlton
Premiers: Collingwood

 

[cormick]

1) Hawthorn
2) Collingwood
3) Carlton
4) Fremantle
5) Geelong
6) West Coast
7) St Kilda
8) Richmond

9) Sydney
10) North Melbourne
11) Melbourne
12) Essendon
13) Adelaide
14) Western Bulldogs
15) Brisbane
16) Gold Coast
17) GWS
18) Port Adelaide

Rising Star: Steve Coniglio

Coleman: Lance Franklin (78)

Brownlow: Nat Fyfe

Grand Final: Collingwood v Hawthorn

Premier: Hawthorn

 

[Bomber32]

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Geelong
4. West Coast
5. Fremantle
6. Essendon
7. Sydney
8. North Melbourne
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9. Richmond
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Carlton
12. Adelaide
13. St.Kilda
14. Melbourne
15. Port Adelaide
16. Gold Coast
17. Brisbane Lions
18. GWS Giants

Rising Star: Stephen Coniglio (GWS)
Coleman: Lance Franklin (86)
Brownlow: Gary Ablett Jnr
Grand Final: Collingwood v Hawthorn
Premiers: Hawthorn

 

[theflea]

Bombers made the finals last year despite having the toughest draw and a horrible run with injuries. It was also apparent that they weren't fit enough to sustain the new and more defensive game plan across four quarters.
We have a bunch of players around 20-21 years old in our best 22 who will have benefited from another preseason (Hurley, Heppel, Zaharakis, Melksham, Pears, Carlisle etc.)
So I see absolutely no reason why we should be 'lucky to finish top 12'.
Yes we got flogged by Carlton in the finals, but at least we made them.
We also beat better teams than North, Richmond or Melbourne.
I predict that we will finish 6th-9th.

i think the bombers are capable to play finals along with 4 or 5 other clubs but they certainly wont finish 12th if they miss. 10th the worst.

 

[aesthetic]

1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. West Coast
5. Hawthorn
6. Fremantle
7. Footscray
8. North Melbourne
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9. Adelaide
10. Essendon
11. Sydney
12. Richmond
13. St. Kilda
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane Lions
16. Gold Coast
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS Giants

get with the times u old fart

 

[benji2]

1. Hawthorn
2. Carlton
3. Geelong
4. Collingwood
5. Fremantle
6. Essendon
7. North Melbourne
8. West Coast

9. Sydney
10. Richmond
11. Adelaide
12. Melbourne
13. Brisbane
14. Western Bulldogs
15. Port Adelaide
16. St Kilda
17. Gold Coast
18. GWS

 

[dajesmac]

1) Hawthorn
2) Collingwood
3) Geelong
4) Carlton
5) Fremantle
6) West Coast
7) Adelaide
8) North Melbourne

9) Essendon
10) Richmond
11) Sydney
12) St Kilda
13) Melbourne
14) Brisbane
15) Western Bulldogs
16) Gold Coast
17) Port Adelaide
18) GWS

Too hard to tell this year. So many teams that have a claim for the eight.

 

[footy_noob]

1. Geelong
2. Collingwood
3. Hawthorn
4. Sydney
5. Carlton
6. Adelaide
7. West Coast Eagles
8. North Melbourne
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9. St Kilda
10. Essendon
11. Fremantle
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. Gold Coast
15. Bulldogs
16. Melbourne
17. Brisbane
18. GWS

Rising star - No idea
Coleman - Buddy Franklin (75)
Brownlow - Ablett
Grandfinalists - Hawthorn/Geelong
Premiers - Geelong

 

[damuzzdu]

Ok time to throw my hat into the ring...

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Collingwood
4. Carlton
5. West Coast Eagles
6. Sydney Swans
7. Adelaide
8. North Melbourne
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9. Fremantle
10. Essendon
11. Richmond
12. St. Kilda
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane Lions
16. Port Adelaide
17. Gold Coast Suns
18. Greater Western Sydney

Rising Star: Chad Wingard (Port)
Coleman: Lance Franklin (74)
Brownlow: Dane Swan
Grand Final: Collingwood v Hawthorn
Premiers: Collingwood

 

[kimbev]

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. West Coast
4. Geelong
5. Carlton
6. Adelaide
7. Fremantle
8. Richmond
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9. Sydney
10. North Melbourne
11. Essendon
12. Port Adelaide
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Melbourne
15. St Kilda
16. Brisbane Lions
17. Gold Coast
18. GWS Giants

Rising Star: Stephen Coniglio
Coleman: Lance Franklin
Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury
Grand Final: Hawthorn v West Coast
Premiers: Hawthorn

 

[Hoven]

1. Hawthorn
2. Carlton
3. Collingwood
4. West Coast
5. Geelong
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. North Melbourne
9. Port
10. Sydney
11. Essendon
12. Saints
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. GWS
17. Melbourne
18. Gold Coast

Rising Star: John Butcher
Coleman: Franklin (89)
Brownlow: Gary Ablett
Grand Final: Hawthorn vs. Carlton
Premiers: Hawthorn

 

[StringyDog]

1. Collingwood
2. Hawthorn
3. Fremantle
4. Carlton
5. Adelaide
6. Geelong
7. Sydney
8. West Coast
9. Essendon
10. Western Bulldogs
11. North Melbourne
12. Port Adelaide
13. St Kilda
14. Richmond
15. Melbourne
16. Brisbane
17. Gold Coast
18. GWS

Rising Star: Coniglio
Coleman: J.Reiwoldt (77)
Brownlow: J.Watson
Grand Final: Collingwood v Hawthorn
Premiers: Collingwood

 

[HappyChappy35]

get with the times u old fart

They are actually still the 'Footscray Football Club', they just trade as the 'Western Bulldogs'. I prefer to call clubs and grounds by their traditional names. And I'm almost 18, so you are quite incorrect on both accounts.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

They are actually still the 'Footscray Football Club', they just trade as the 'Western Bulldogs'. I prefer to call clubs and grounds by their traditional names. And I'm almost 18, so you are quite incorrect on both accounts.

Apart from that, West Coast and Freo are western. Bulldogs are simply west of the melbourne CBD which makes their "new" name pretty outdated in a national competition.

 

[tropicaltiger]

1. West Coast
2. Hawthorn
3. Adelaide
4. Sydney
5. Collingwood
6. Carlton
7. Geelong
8 Richmond

9. Fremantle
10. Melbourne
11. St Kilda
12. Brisbane
13. Essendon
14. North Melbourne
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Port Adelaide
17. Gold Coast
18. GWS

 

[Sydneyfan]

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Collingwood
4. Carlton
5. Essendon
6. West Coast
7. Fremantle
8. North Melbourne
9. Richmond
10. Sydney
11. St. Kilda
12. Adelaide
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Brisbane
15. Melbourne
16. Gold Coast
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS

Rising star: Stephen Coniglio
Coleman: Lance 'Buddy' Franklin 89 goals
Brownlow: James Bartel
Grand Finalists: Hawthorn 16.12 108 b. Geelong 15.8 98
Premiers: Hawthorn
Wooden spoon: GWS

 

[camo2572]

1. Hawthorn
2. West Coast
3. Collingwood
4. Carlton
5. Geelong
6. Adelaide
7. Fremantle
8. Sydney
9. St. Kilda
10. Essendon
11. Richmond
12. Western Bulldogs
13. North Melbourne
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane
16. Gold Coast
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS

Rising star: Stephen Coniglio
Coleman: Buddy Franklin 75 goals
Brownlow: Scott Pendelbury 27 votes
Grand Finalists: Hawthorn 14.14 98 b. West Coast 9.13 67
Premiers: Hawthorn

Wooden spoon: GWS​

 

[maggotz]

1 Hawthorn Hawks
2 Collingwood Magpies
3 West Coast Eagles
4 Adelaide Crows
5 Sydney Swans
6 Geelong Cats
7 Richmond Tigers
8 Port Adelaide Power
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9 North Melbourne Kangaroos
10 Essendon Bombers
11 St. Kilda Saints
12 Carlton Blues
13 Fremantle Dockers
14 Melbourne Demons
15 Western Bulldogs
16 Greater Western Sydney Giants
17 Gold Coast Suns
18 Brisbane Lions
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AFL Rising Star: Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney Giants)
AFL Coleman: Lance Franklin (Hawthorn Hawks - 77 Goals)
AFL Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood Magpies)
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Grand Final: Hawthorn Hawks v. Collingwood Magpies
Premiers: Collingwood Magpies

 

[HappyChappy35]

1 Hawthorn Hawks
2 Collingwood Magpies
3 West Coast Eagles
4 Adelaide Crows
5 Sydney Swans
6 Geelong Cats
7 Richmond Tigers
8 Port Adelaide Power
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9 North Melbourne Kangaroos
10 Essendon Bombers
11 St. Kilda Saints
12 Carlton Blues
13 Fremantle Dockers
14 Melbourne Demons
15 Western Bulldogs
16 Greater Western Sydney Giants
17 Gold Coast Suns
18 Brisbane Lions
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AFL Rising Star: Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney Giants)
AFL Coleman: Lance Franklin (Hawthorn Hawks - 77 Goals)
AFL Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood Magpies)
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Grand Final: Hawthorn Hawks v. Collingwood Magpies
Premiers: Collingwood Magpies

That is one massive call. Despite demonstrating some glimpses of form during this pre-season, Port don't yet have anything remotely close to the sufficient talent and list required to contend for a top 8 position.
GWS in 16th is one I'm not sure on also, and I can assure you that Carlton and Freo (particularly the Blues) will finish much higher than 12th and 13th respectively. I guess this is simply a prediction thread though.

 

[HappyChappy35]

Grand Finalists: Hawthorn 14.14 98 b. West Coast 9.13 67

Same score as the 2nd Qualifying Final last year, or purely a coincidence?

 

[mufassa]

1) Collingwood
2) Hawthorn
3) Geelong
4) St Kilda
5) Carlton
6) West Coast
7) North Melbourne
8) Adelaide Crows

9) Sydney
10) Fremantle
11) Essendon
12) Western Bulldogs
13) Richmond
14) Brisbane Lions
15) Melbourne Demons
16) Port Adelaide
17) Gold Coast Suns
18) GWS

Coleman - Buddy Franklin - 90 goals
Brownlow - Chris Judd
Rising Star - Stephen Conigilo
Norm Smith - Scott Pendlebury

Grand Final - Hawthorn V Collingwood
Premier - Collingwood

 

[DerpWerls]

They are actually still the 'Footscray Football Club', they just trade as the 'Western Bulldogs'. I prefer to call clubs and grounds by their traditional names. And I'm almost 18, so you are quite incorrect on both accounts.

So for you it's kind of retro?