Opinion 2014 Draft ( Live discussion ) Mod notice post #6629

[Bradschi]

It was meant as a bit of joke old boy, sorry to upset you're delicate sensabilities.

Thought jokes were meant to be funny?

 

[Stamos]

It was a horrible mistake to not take another selection at 71 and get Mckenzie

For some reason I cannot reply to your abusive private message, but I can tell you that there is a very good reason that we would not draft Mckenzie.

I'd like to know why you think you know better than the recruiters in this case?

 

[Jeremias]

For some reason I cannot reply to your abusive private message, but I can tell you that there is a very good reason that we would not draft Mckenzie.

I'd like to know why you think you know better than the recruiters in this case?

Report any abuse and we'll deal with it accordingly.

 

[SE_Blue]

Which one?

All Saad all the time

 

[GT619]

For some reason I cannot reply to your abusive private message, but I can tell you that there is a very good reason that we would not draft Mckenzie.

I'd like to know why you think you know better than the recruiters in this case?

We weren't the only club who passed on reece. Already have casboult who both are similar types we would be one dimensional forward line with those two where as foster offers a different mix

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Why should the government or AFL do anything? I'm sure there are talented white kids who get on the drugs and into crime too - should the government do something for them?


If you interfere and legislate specifically for aboriginal groups - some will say it's racist for treating them differently
If you don't do anything to help the situation - some will say it's racist for ignoring them.

Fact of the matter is they are people like any other person and they have to make decisions for themselves and conduct themselves to the standard of an AFL footballer.

Reckon this is a society/ cultural issue that needs addressing ASAP and footy had very little to do with it

 

[thylacine60]

Apologies for going a bit O/T, bit I was reading Inside Football's excellent and informative draft guide issue yesterday and was interested to see Chris Yarran had an older cousin (Shane) who had unfortunately spent 5 years in jail. His AFL dream is probably not going to happen, i just wish the govt could do more to prevent these young people from turning to crime early on and preventing their chances for potential career success.

 

[TommyAlvinsWig]

Saad Saad Saad

Cheer up, only a few months til the new season starts.

 

[Weiterbot23]

For some reason I cannot reply to your abusive private message, but I can tell you that there is a very good reason that we would not draft Mckenzie.

I'd like to know why you think you know better than the recruiters in this case?

My cousin played and went to school with him and said those issue were pretty minor and that were mostly in year 11.

Well worth the risk at pick 70 imo


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[Weiterbot23]

Were there any ruckmen taken in the draft and if so what picks?


Love Kreuzer but it's safe to say he'll be the last number 1 pick ruckmen


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[FlowersByIrene]

Were there any ruckmen taken in the draft and if so what picks?


Love Kreuzer but it's safe to say he'll be the last number 1 pick ruckmen


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Wright at 8

 

[etsal1]

My cousin played and went to school with him and said those issue were pretty minor and that were mostly in year 11.

Well worth the risk at pick 70 imo


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Those who knew him this year say otherwise.

 

[HARKER]

Rogers said we got almost everyone we wanted at the draft.
Just wondering as to who he may have been alluding to missing out on, if he did indeed mean that?

At the top end of things Marchbank was certainly one we liked but would have then missed out on either Boekhorst or DVR. Maybe that's not it.

So from 29-59, who did we miss that we would have really hoped for, realistically.
Smith was a bonus so there must have been someone else we would have taken ahead of Foster.......Langdon? McDonald? Gore?

 

[etsal1]

Rogers said we got almost everyone we wanted at the draft.
Just wondering as to who he may have been alluding to missing out on, if he did indeed mean that?

At the top end of things Marchbank was certainly one we liked but would have then missed out on either Boekhorst or DVR. Maybe that's not it.

So from 29-59, who did we miss that we would have really hoped for, realistically.
Smith was a bonus so there must have been someone else we would have taken ahead of Foster.......Langdon? McDonald? Gore?

I thought he meant we planned on taking someone other than Smith but didn't necessarily mean we rated that player higher than Smith. Just a different player.

 

[PP34]

Those who knew him this year say otherwise.

No you're wrong

 

[Mezzoculo]

Wow. This thread devolved to bickering and name calling pretty quickly. Now that the draft is done and dusted and we have a rookie draft thread surely we could lock this one, Aphrodite? All non rookie draft related conversations could continue in the specific player threads, the list thread or general thread.

 

[HARKER]

No you're wrong

There were question marks on McKenzie as must have been evident for the fact he took so long to get picked up and even Richmond at that selection had to think long and hard before sticking their necks out...........didn't they?

There were a few players that question marks on them leading into this draft. No surprise those same players somehow............fell.

 

[PP34]

There were question marks on McKenzie as must have been evident for the fact he took so long to get picked up and even Richmond at that selection had to think long and hard before sticking their necks out...........didn't they?

There were a few players that question marks on them leading into this draft. No surprise those same players somehow............fell.

To be fair he played one year for Northern Knights, came good late and I'm sure some teams still had last year on the back of their minds.

Of course some teams simply didn't need him.

People saying he had issues this year are talking out of their arse and it annoys me. I spent plenty of time with him this year and he was fine.
Carlton should've picked him up. Low risk for the possibility of a chunky reward.

 

[etsal1]

To be fair he played one year for Northern Knights, came good late and I'm sure some teams still had last year on the back of their minds.

Of course some teams simply didn't need him.

People saying he had issues this year are talking out of their arse and it annoys me. I spent plenty of time with him this year and he was fine.
Carlton should've picked him up. Low risk for the possibility of a chunky reward.

Quayle spent time with him last week & disagrees with you.

Interviewed him & that interview never went to print. Strange if everything was fine.

 

[PP34]

Quayle spent time with him last week & disagrees with you.

I spent a whole year with him.

The spreading of crap to blindly support Carlton's decision is pretty low.

 

[HARKER]

To be fair he played one year for Northern Knights, came good late and I'm sure some teams still had last year on the back of their minds.

Of course some teams simply didn't need him.
Carlton should've picked him up. Low risk for the possibility of a chunky reward.

I think that recruiters look a lot deeper these days then whether a player can kick ball.

I'm not suggesting that their psych analysis is always right and for what may happen with said player at a later stage but most clubs tend to steer away from disruptive forces.
It should come as no surprise that a player being touted as possibly the best talent in the draft went at #32 and to the other side of the country...............and he's not the only one.

Petracca raised some concerns also and don't think that St.Kilda didn't know that.

 

[HARKER]

I spent a whole year with him.

The spreading of crap to blindly support Carlton's decision is pretty low.

Mate, I was hearing things in January.

That alone doesn't amount to much because I don't know him or his parents first hand, but recruiters do.

 

[Azul]

Foster won the goalkicking.

Reece might be the better prospect but Jayden had the goals on the scoreboard. Anyway, good luck to him at the Tiges.

 

[Cringle]

What was/is wrong with McKenzie?

 

[PP34]

Mate, I was hearing things in January.

I went to school with him.

I don't doubt you did. It's well known he had issues last year but there has been no such signs of the same things this year. The clubs evaluations might have shown something but with a late pick he still would've been worth the punt putting the right support around him.