2014 Emirates Melbourne Cup Day discussion.

[rideclutch]

Track was good come race time mate. But feel free to reasses next time a horses does a 3-peat if it was such a piece of piss

Sure, like it was "Good 3" on Saturday. Some quick times they were running...

Let's not go there.

Edit: yes I know I took it 'there'

 

[onebillsdrive]

Yeah - in Green Moon's year he had excellent form - and started second favourite as a result from memory. Settled back in a skunk race and was the best of the run on horses. Would have gone close in a fair race.

Green moon certainly was not second fav started about $18 to $20 and he he settled about eight to ten but was in good form

 

[rideclutch]

Green moon certainly was not second fav started about $18 to $20 and he he settled about eight to ten but was in good form

He was talking about Red Cadeaux

 

[onebillsdrive]

He was talking about Red Cadeaux

sorry about that I realised that after I punched post reply .....

 

[iluvparis]

Yes ANOTHER one of my load up on Lloyd's horse for Cox Plate failure before jumping off as it romps home at twice the price in the Melbourne Cup.

 

[sethlad]

Admire Rakti is not known for putting 2 good runs together.
Havent seen the numbers but he would have rated through the roof in C Cup

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Admire Rakti is not known for putting 2 good runs together.
Havent seen the numbers but he would have rated through the roof in C Cup

seth

Put 3 runs together this time last year didn't he? Culminating in his Japan Cup 4th?

 

[sethlad]

Put 3 runs together this time last year didn't he? Culminating in his Japan Cup 4th?

Depends whether you think getting comfortably beaten in Argentina is a good run?

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Depends whether you think getting comfortably beaten in Argentina is a good run?

seth

Isn't that race in Japan and just called the Argentina Cup?

 

[sethlad]

Maybe, just assumed when he was ridden by I Mendizabel

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Maybe, just assumed when he was ridden by I Mendizabel

seth

It says the race as held at Tokyo, and all the other trainer/jockey combos are Japanese.

Just going back he put a few ok races together the previous October too. Maybe he is just no good in the Northern Spring?

 

[sethlad]

Some jockey bookings: C Williams booked for Cavalryman, J Mcdonald to Willing Foe
B Shinn goes to Junoob & H Bowman offered ride on Mutual Regard.

seth

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Surprised Willo gave up Araldo for Cavalryman

maybe because of order of entry?

 

[iluvparis]

Surprised Willo gave up Araldo for Cavalryman

maybe because of order of entry?

Probably because of significant class difference

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Probably because of significant class difference

Flogged the last time he went around in the MC

 

[sethlad]

Quite simply because Cavalryman is in the race & its him or nothing.
Chased hard for Mutual Regard ride but just missed to Hughie

seth

 

[MikeLike]

when is the field finalized?

 

[KardiniaPark]

when is the field finalized?

Ist Nov after the races.

 

[sethlad]

Hearing Mutual Regard will be D Oliver

seth

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Sh

Hearing Mutual Regard will be D Oliver

seth

If that is annouced Mutual Regard's odds should come down, the once a year punters backing D.Oliver

In saying that it is one of the 2 I will be backing at this stage, Mutual Regard and Red Cadeaux

 

[sethlad]

Sh

If that is annouced Mutual Regard's odds should come down, the once a year punters backing D.Oliver
In saying that it is one of the 2 I will be backing at this stage, Mutual Regard and Red Cadeaux

Bet now if youre keen, done deal

seth

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Bet now if youre keen, done deal

seth

15/1 on sportsbet, am ruing the choice to not take the 34/1 a couple of weeks ago...

 

[iluvparis]

Sh

If that is annouced Mutual Regard's odds should come down, the once a year punters backing D.Oliver

In saying that it is one of the 2 I will be backing at this stage, Mutual Regard and Red Cadeaux

Can't see how Mutual Regard would be good enough myself. He would be the weakest European horse to run a place for a long time. Can't remember the last time Ebor form was relevant. Probably Purple Moon - but it had run in Australia and went on to run well in Gold Cup (which I doubt Mutual Regard would have the class to do).

He is big unders for mine.

 

[iluvparis]

15/1 on sportsbet, am ruing the choice to not take the 34/1 a couple of weeks ago...

Horrible HORRIBLE price -as bad as Protectionist.

 

[sethlad]

Hes clearly improved since changing stables but in most years he'd be $50
The fact LVP got close to Protectionist at Caulfield confuses the issue a tad considering it is $6.
Has 3200m form & will handle a fast track but without a run here, how can we know?

seth