List Mgmt. 2015 DRAFT discussion - Clayton Oliver #4, Sam Weideman #10, Mitch King #42, Liam Hulett #46

[Gysberts2Bate]

So was Dan Nicholson



Or a vandenburg or Barlow

Vandenberg is remarkably overrated. He's not anywhere near the same league as Barlow. His kicking is average and he's slower than Dom Tyson. Tough as nails and can take a contested grab but it's not like he wins a lot of the ball either.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Vandenberg is remarkably overrated. He's not anywhere near the same league as Barlow. His kicking is average and he's slower than Dom Tyson. Tough as nails and can take a contested grab but it's not like he wins a lot of the ball either.

Because he played as a half forward all year except against WB where he played as a full time on baller and had 29 disposals and 11 tackles.
The guy has more upside then Barlow

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Agree, Vanders has a fair amount of upside IMO.

 

[Meds]

Because he played as a half forward all year except against WB where he played as a full time on baller and had 29 disposals and 11 tackles.
The guy has more upside then Barlow

Upside isn't always a good thing. Barlow has less upside because he's already a far superior player.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Upside isn't always a good thing. Barlow has less upside because he's already a far superior player.

Barlow has played 100 plus games though and was similarly a mature age recruit.

 

[Topkent]

Vandenberg is remarkably overrated. He's not anywhere near the same league as Barlow. His kicking is average and he's slower than Dom Tyson. Tough as nails and can take a contested grab but it's not like he wins a lot of the ball either.

He walked straight into our best 22 off the back of shoulder surgery and impacted games
I think he's an average kick but he's easily good enough and we missed him when he was out

 

[Tulip]

Barlow was leading the Brownlow before he did his leg, VDB got three votes all year. Don't lose your heads, they're not in the same postcode.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Barlow was leading the Brownlow before he did his leg, VDB got three votes all year. Don't lose your heads, they're not in the same postcode.

Not to mention Barlow was only 21 when he came into the AFL.

VDB will never be fit to clean Barlows shoes

 

[Dez!]

Anyone thinking adding Curnow and Petracca to our side is going to be huge?

Petracca will be able to slot inside 50 from the start and provide another marking target and Curnow being bigger again could also slot in there, the thought of them rotating through middle is exciting.

 

[Topkent]

Anyone thinking adding Curnow and Petracca to our side is going to be huge?

Petracca will be able to slot inside 50 from the start and provide another marking target and Curnow being bigger again could also slot in there, the thought of them rotating through middle is exciting.

Add Dean Kent as well and we suddenly have an explosive forward line with quite a bit of arrogance as well
Having Garlett Kent and Petracca at the feet of Hogan will hopefully encourage us to be far more direct

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Add Dean Kent as well and we suddenly have an explosive forward line with quite a bit of arrogance as well
Having Garlett Kent and Petracca at the feet of Hogan will hopefully encourage us to be far more direct

Petracca will play as a forward target alongside Hogan, not at his feet. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up just as good of a contested mark.

 

[Topkent]

Petracca will play as a forward target alongside Hogan, not at his feet. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up just as good of a contested mark.

So that means he wont be able to crumb?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

So that means he wont be able to crumb?

It means Hogan will be playing at his feet as much as the opposite.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

We saw Petracca was seen as a dynamic, game changing midfielder as far as I understand it.

He may well start on a flank/pocket but I doubt he'll be a partner to Hogan.

 

[Dez!]

We saw Petracca was seen as a dynamic, game changing midfielder as far as I understand it.

He may well start on a flank/pocket but I doubt he'll be a partner to Hogan.

His overhead marking ability was widely praised as a reason why he could play a lot up forward as well.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

His overhead marking ability was widely praised as a reason why he could play a lot up forward as well.

I know - I've watched him play.

But, at his size, he won't be a marking 'target' at AFL level - more like how a Fyfe or Parker can drift forward to take a mark or isolate a similarly sized player in the goal square.

 

[Topkent]

I know - I've watched him play.

But, at his size, he won't be a marking 'target' at AFL level - more like how a Fyfe or Parker can drift forward to take a mark or isolate a similarly sized player in the goal square.

Same as Trenners

 

[Dez!]

I know - I've watched him play.

But, at his size, he won't be a marking 'target' at AFL level - more like how a Fyfe or Parker can drift forward to take a mark or isolate a similarly sized player in the goal square.

The intention wasn't to play him as just a forward, more that he can be a better target than most midfielders who drift forward because of his marking ability.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

The intention wasn't to play him as just a forward, more that he can be a better target than most midfielders who drift forward.

The statements G2B was making about him seemed a bit more the former.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Same as Trenners

I still hold genuine hope that Trenners could be a 30-40 goal a season permanent forward, if his body stayed right...

 

[Topkent]

I still hold genuine hope that Trenners could be a 30-40 goal a season permanent forward, if his body stayed right...

I reckon he should be played across the HBF provided he isnt still slow as *

 

[ponsdale]

I reckon he should be played across the HBF provided he isnt still slow as ****

I'd love his composure and agressive tackling in the back half.

Is he a strong kick? It's been so long, I can't remember.

 

[Cannon82]

I know - I've watched him play.

But, at his size, he won't be a marking 'target' at AFL level - more like how a Fyfe or Parker can drift forward to take a mark or isolate a similarly sized player in the goal square.

If Jamie Elliott can do it, Petracca should be able to make a decent fist of it.

 

[Topkent]

I'd love his composure and agressive tackling in the back half.

Is he a strong kick? It's been so long, I can't remember.

Hes a good kick on both sides and he was really hard to tackle in his first couple of years
His marking ability could make him a good weapon

 

[Blackas87]

I reckon he should be played across the HBF provided he isnt still slow as ****

Should play the role that Cross was playing and he was pretty slow