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Winston is clutch, would like to see Denver draft him if he kept falling, Elway and Manning could fix him up after a season or two
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How they going with Osweiler?
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Who the * knows
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Peyton wouldn't even let him in the game to kneel the ball out if we were up by 55 in Week 1 of the preseason
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Cant blame him.
Osweiler would be the most overrated QB in the NFL (damn Roethlisberger having a good season)
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Who rates him?
Plus the sample size is so small
Plus the sample size is so small
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So looks like another dud QB class. Not good for the Texans. Maybe some better value later rounds. Is Grayson any good? Looks like he can make a nice throw.
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Don't think so. But not sure what the qb fa market is like next season.
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Maybe the Bucs trade you Glennon.
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His height and rocket arm paired with Latimer and his vice-like hands already has them shaking
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Underclassmen requests for evaluation down 42 percent
Posted by Mike Florio on December 19, 2014, 12:05 AM EST
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There could be fewer underclassmen entering the 2015 draft than last year’s record throng of 102 who exited college football early.
A sharp drop in players seeking evaluations for early entry hints at an eventual drop in players choosing to enter early. NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent points out on Twitter that requests for early evaluation have dropped from 214 last year to 147 this year, a reduction of 42 percent.
If the eventual class of early entries drops by 42 percent, 59 players will choose to enter the draft with eligibility remaining.
Generally speaking, the NFL wants players to remain in college as long as possible, since that ensures a high degree of cooperation from college coaches who prefer to maximize the largely free services they receive. For players who know with a high degree of confidence that they are ready for the NFL, it’s in the players’ best interests to leave. An education can be obtained later; cartilage and tendons and other connective tissue, muscles, and bones have a finite shelf life. Playing for the wholesale cost of an education (plus snacks!) risks the ability of the player to eventually play for as much money as he can earn.
And so the reduction in players seeking evaluations is bad news for those players who ultimately would be deemed to be definitely ready to enter the NFL. Then again, the early evaluation process is inexact. A far better system would allow players to make themselves eligible for the draft and then return to school, if they choose to try to enhance their draft stock via more play-for-no-pay.
It wouldn’t be a perfect system, but it would be far more fair than the crapshoot system currently in place, giving players the best possible information before deciding whether to convert their skills into cash. After all, isn’t that why anyone goes to college in the first place?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 19, 2014, 12:05 AM EST
There could be fewer underclassmen entering the 2015 draft than last year’s record throng of 102 who exited college football early.
A sharp drop in players seeking evaluations for early entry hints at an eventual drop in players choosing to enter early. NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent points out on Twitter that requests for early evaluation have dropped from 214 last year to 147 this year, a reduction of 42 percent.
If the eventual class of early entries drops by 42 percent, 59 players will choose to enter the draft with eligibility remaining.
Generally speaking, the NFL wants players to remain in college as long as possible, since that ensures a high degree of cooperation from college coaches who prefer to maximize the largely free services they receive. For players who know with a high degree of confidence that they are ready for the NFL, it’s in the players’ best interests to leave. An education can be obtained later; cartilage and tendons and other connective tissue, muscles, and bones have a finite shelf life. Playing for the wholesale cost of an education (plus snacks!) risks the ability of the player to eventually play for as much money as he can earn.
And so the reduction in players seeking evaluations is bad news for those players who ultimately would be deemed to be definitely ready to enter the NFL. Then again, the early evaluation process is inexact. A far better system would allow players to make themselves eligible for the draft and then return to school, if they choose to try to enhance their draft stock via more play-for-no-pay.
It wouldn’t be a perfect system, but it would be far more fair than the crapshoot system currently in place, giving players the best possible information before deciding whether to convert their skills into cash. After all, isn’t that why anyone goes to college in the first place?
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Why do their seem to be so few good QB's coming out of the college systems? Considering its the most important position on the field and so much work goes into developing those players why do so many struggle in the NFL? Is it because the college system is better suited to the type of QB's who will struggle in the pro's?
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A lot of current crop of College QBs are of the 'athletic' kind. Especially the most highly rated QBs, they're mostly all 'athletic' kinds. There are a number of generic pocket passers, but they're not as highly rated, many will go in the 5th-7th round and UDFA. Might be a good year for the "next Tom Brady" search among the no-name pocket passers with protypical 6'5" type size.
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Maybe Eli Manning available via trade.
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Yeah that's what I mean, the athletic types excel at college level because the college style is more suited to that type of play so they are seen as the top picks coming in but that style doesn't work anyone near as well in the NFL unless you have a pretty good offense already (which most teams picking high don't).
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If the Falcons go offence in the 1st round this year, we better either
A) Have made playoffs and are picking in the 20s
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B) Trade down from a top 10 to a late 1st round pick.
Other than a Steven Jackson replacement, we need nothing on offence. Load up on defence Dimitroff!
A) Have made playoffs and are picking in the 20s
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B) Trade down from a top 10 to a late 1st round pick.
Other than a Steven Jackson replacement, we need nothing on offence. Load up on defence Dimitroff!
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I'd like to see them rely more on the run, they have a top 5 passing O, but they are bottom 10 in the league in rushing, however you are averaging over 4 yds per carry. It will also help the defense
The last 7 games have been pretty solid, but the loss to Cleveland, and getting blown out by GB if not for junk time were let downs, inconsistency
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports several unnamed NFL executives believe the Bears may have to give up a draft pick in order to trade Jay Cutler.
Still owed a guaranteed $25.5 million on the seven-year deal signed last offseason, Cutler's contract appears to be trade prohibitive. Schefter's sources believe the Bears could offset the big guarantees by offering Cutler AND a draft pick to prospective trade partners. NFL rules dictate the Bears would have to receive some compensation in return, but Chicago could get around the rule by accepted a late-round pick in exchange for Cutler and a better pick. It would be a high price to pay to offload a talented quarterback, but with coach Marc Trestman likely finished after the season, Chicago may simply press the reset button
Still owed a guaranteed $25.5 million on the seven-year deal signed last offseason, Cutler's contract appears to be trade prohibitive. Schefter's sources believe the Bears could offset the big guarantees by offering Cutler AND a draft pick to prospective trade partners. NFL rules dictate the Bears would have to receive some compensation in return, but Chicago could get around the rule by accepted a late-round pick in exchange for Cutler and a better pick. It would be a high price to pay to offload a talented quarterback, but with coach Marc Trestman likely finished after the season, Chicago may simply press the reset button
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Vick praises Jameis Winston as the “future of the NFL”
Posted by Mike Florio on December 20, 2014, 6:37 PM EST
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A vague sense has emerged in recent weeks that a draft-stock gap exists between 2014 Heisman winner Marcus Mariota and 2013 Heisman winner Jameis Winston. There indeed may be a gap by the time the 2015 draft begins, and it may be Winston who’s the better player.
Jets quarterback Mike Vick, the first overall pick in the draft nearly 14 years ago, recently heaped praise on Winston.
“He may make some poor decisions, but he gets on that football field and he plays his ass off,” Vick said, via Darryl Slater of NJ.com. “Yeah, he can mature. He’ll mature. I see him maturing as time goes on. Like, this year hasn’t been as bad of a year as the first year was for Jameis. I think the kid will continue to improve. I think he’s the future of the NFL.”
This year hasn’t been perfect, though. The offseason featured the crab-leg caper. Then, Winston was suspended for a game after yelling an obscene phrase on campus. He nevertheless dressed for the game and entered the field in full uniform before being sent back inside. More recently, Winston placed his hands on and physically moved an official who was delaying the snap.
As a result, Winston will attract plenty of attention, wherever he goes. And that could make it difficult for him to thrive with a team like the Jets.
“I think it’s hard,” Vick said. “I think his support cast just has to be around him. You can’t put him in a room with a group of young guys. . . . The more veterans around, the more he’ll pick up on things and he’ll mature quickly. That’s the trend I’ve been around since I’ve been in the league.”
For Winston, the trend at the college level has been to win, each and every week. He’s 29-0. A win over Mariota and Oregon will move him to 30-0 and commence talk that, despite Mariota’s accomplishments, perhaps Winston is the better NFL prospect.
Posted by Mike Florio on December 20, 2014, 6:37 PM EST
A vague sense has emerged in recent weeks that a draft-stock gap exists between 2014 Heisman winner Marcus Mariota and 2013 Heisman winner Jameis Winston. There indeed may be a gap by the time the 2015 draft begins, and it may be Winston who’s the better player.
Jets quarterback Mike Vick, the first overall pick in the draft nearly 14 years ago, recently heaped praise on Winston.
“He may make some poor decisions, but he gets on that football field and he plays his ass off,” Vick said, via Darryl Slater of NJ.com. “Yeah, he can mature. He’ll mature. I see him maturing as time goes on. Like, this year hasn’t been as bad of a year as the first year was for Jameis. I think the kid will continue to improve. I think he’s the future of the NFL.”
This year hasn’t been perfect, though. The offseason featured the crab-leg caper. Then, Winston was suspended for a game after yelling an obscene phrase on campus. He nevertheless dressed for the game and entered the field in full uniform before being sent back inside. More recently, Winston placed his hands on and physically moved an official who was delaying the snap.
As a result, Winston will attract plenty of attention, wherever he goes. And that could make it difficult for him to thrive with a team like the Jets.
“I think it’s hard,” Vick said. “I think his support cast just has to be around him. You can’t put him in a room with a group of young guys. . . . The more veterans around, the more he’ll pick up on things and he’ll mature quickly. That’s the trend I’ve been around since I’ve been in the league.”
For Winston, the trend at the college level has been to win, each and every week. He’s 29-0. A win over Mariota and Oregon will move him to 30-0 and commence talk that, despite Mariota’s accomplishments, perhaps Winston is the better NFL prospect.
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Buccaneers and Titans locked in to the top two spots (I think they can swap positions, but neither can go lower than second in the draft order).
One of Jacksonville (currently 3rd), Jets (4th), Raiders (5th) and Redskins (currently 6th) can finish with a draft pick as high as #3 or as low as #6, depending on results in week 17. The Bears, currently picking 7th overall, can finish with a draft pick as high as 11th overall if the Bears win in week 17.
One of Jacksonville (currently 3rd), Jets (4th), Raiders (5th) and Redskins (currently 6th) can finish with a draft pick as high as #3 or as low as #6, depending on results in week 17. The Bears, currently picking 7th overall, can finish with a draft pick as high as 11th overall if the Bears win in week 17.
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God, the Browns WILL NEVER LEARN. Mariota is a major bust in the making. Another run-first, happy-feet, shotgun only QB, who struggles under pressure.
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Report: Browns to “explore all options” at quarterback
Posted by Mike Florio on December 21, 2014, 1:49 PM EST
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That homeless guy apparently has given Jimmy Haslam some new advice.
According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Browns intend to “explore all options” at quarterback this season.
Those options include a possible trade up to get Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota, a player with whom G.M. Ray Farmer reportedly is smitten.
The Browns will enter the draft with a pair of first-round picks that could be packaged in an effort to get Mariota, if the Browns decide to make a move up. It would mean making a move out with current starter Johnny Manziel, whose wage-scaled contract would allow the Browns to keep both guys around, if they wanted to.
The willingness of the Browns to explore their options shows that they’re far from sold on Manziel, the 22nd overall pick in this year’s draft. If they decide they were wrong about Manziel, it makes much more sense to admit the mistake and move on than to try to justify it by sticking with a guy who can’t get it done.
Besides, if Haslam won’t be firing his coach or G.M. after the season, he needs to fire someone, and the homeless guy who suggested that Manziel be drafted already is unemployed.
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Report: Browns to “explore all options” at quarterback
Posted by Mike Florio on December 21, 2014, 1:49 PM EST
That homeless guy apparently has given Jimmy Haslam some new advice.
According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Browns intend to “explore all options” at quarterback this season.
Those options include a possible trade up to get Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota, a player with whom G.M. Ray Farmer reportedly is smitten.
The Browns will enter the draft with a pair of first-round picks that could be packaged in an effort to get Mariota, if the Browns decide to make a move up. It would mean making a move out with current starter Johnny Manziel, whose wage-scaled contract would allow the Browns to keep both guys around, if they wanted to.
The willingness of the Browns to explore their options shows that they’re far from sold on Manziel, the 22nd overall pick in this year’s draft. If they decide they were wrong about Manziel, it makes much more sense to admit the mistake and move on than to try to justify it by sticking with a guy who can’t get it done.
Besides, if Haslam won’t be firing his coach or G.M. after the season, he needs to fire someone, and the homeless guy who suggested that Manziel be drafted already is unemployed.
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