Past Lachie Henderson

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Ugh, I'm torn and not entirely rational about this. Part of me is pissed orf that he is leaving, especially after the crap season he has had. But I also appreciate his not stringing us along the way Waitey did. Hope our recruiters are strong enough to hold out for a trade worthy of his likely contribution for anyone but us.
 
bigm386 said:
No no, not at all you can leave and ask for a trade. Totally fine. But he literally tanked the whole season. Kicked 16 goals this year. 16!

At least respect your employer enough to put in some effort? Like many players before him like Dangerfield still does for Adelaide even though he likely to leave.

Henderson LOOKS horrible for his performance this year and essentially walking when the club put the hard word on him.

You cannot tell me he has looked interested this year? Honestly?
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Why respect your employer when they don't respect you?
 
Gambelic said:
Why respect your employer when they don't respect you?
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That's rubbish. Has deserved to be dropped plenty of times and wasn't. If you give your all you will be respected. You are paid to play football to the best of your ability.

Do you think Lachie has done that for us? Do you think you'll remember him fondly for what he did for us in 20 years time?
 
An existential question arises over the treatment of Henderson.

At its very heart footy is about kicking a footy about with your mates against an opposition. Their supporters watch and cheer.

From that simple connection a footy club is formed to better provide for your mates to compete against the opposiion. As time goes by a heritage develops and the footy club becomes an entity that players feel honoured to be recruited to, privileged to be selected by and delighted to play for. Fans become custodians of that heritage. We look back from Caz to Fev to Ralph to Kennedy to Jezza to Soapy. We look back from Cripps to Diesel to Ashman to Gags. We look back from Jammo to SOS to Southby. And we remember Doull, who was incomparable.

The footy club channels that heritage and looks to develop and continue it. As it should.

Henderson did the right thing to advise the club that he was packing his bags and going elsewhere next year. So it is decided that Henderson, who was honoured to be recruited by us, privileged to be selected by us and delighted to play for us, but wishes to play elsewhere next year, will not play with his mates again this year. The club has decided that we need to develop young players and do not want to risk injuring Henderson and damage his trade value.

Both are sound arguments. But both arguments fail badly. They fail to recognise that footy in its essence is about kicking a footy with your mates against the opposition. Henderson IS a 2015 listed Carlton footballer. He and his mates should be respected and allowed to play together for the Mighty Blues.

We are shamed as a footy club for failing to understand this basic existential fact. And it matters. The disrespect feeds into every crevice of the footy club and diminishes its great heritage.
 
Windhover said:
An existential question arises over the treatment of Henderson.

At its very heart footy is about kicking a footy about with your mates against an opposition. Their supporters watch and cheer.

From that simple connection a footy club is formed to better provide for your mates to compete against the opposiion. As time goes by a heritage develops and the footy club becomes an entity that players feel honoured to be recruited to, privileged to be selected by and delighted to play for. Fans become custodians of that heritage. We look back from Caz to Fev to Ralph to Kennedy to Jezza to Soapy. We look back from Cripps to Diesel to Ashman to Gags. We look back from Jammo to SOS to Southby. And we remember Doull, who was incomparable.

The footy club channels that heritage and looks to develop and continue it. As it should.

Henderson did the right thing to advise the club that he was packing his bags and going elsewhere next year. So it is decided that Henderson, who was honoured to be recruited by us, privileged to be selected by us and delighted to play for us, but wishes to play elsewhere next year, will not play with his mates again this year. The club has decided that we need to develop young players and do not want to risk injuring Henderson and damage his trade value.

Both are sound arguments. But both arguments fail badly. They fail to recognise that footy in its essence is about kicking a footy with your mates against the opposition. Henderson IS a 2015 listed Carlton footballer. He and his mates should be respected and allowed to play together for the Mighty Blues.

We are shamed as a footy club for failing to understand this basic existential fact. And it matters. The disrespect feeds into every crevice of the footy club and diminishes its great heritage.
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Love your sentiment Windy and wish it was still the case, but the only place you will find your description of what you have described above is at local junior football level, say below U15's and probably at Masters level where guys want to have a kick with their mates. Free agency has destroyed your idea of football and due to the amount of money involved in the game a lot of players will change clubs to find success or move clubs because they can easily do so and the grass may look greener on the other side.

At present all this shows is that our playing group is not close knit, which is a sad indictment on the club that we love

I have heard stories of local junior football clubs enticing good players away from other clubs for premiership glory. I'm sorry to break the news to you Windy but football, especially at AFL may never be what it once was.
 
Windhover said:
An existential question arises over the treatment of Henderson.

At its very heart footy is about kicking a footy about with your mates against an opposition. Their supporters watch and cheer.

From that simple connection a footy club is formed to better provide for your mates to compete against the opposiion. As time goes by a heritage develops and the footy club becomes an entity that players feel honoured to be recruited to, privileged to be selected by and delighted to play for. Fans become custodians of that heritage. We look back from Caz to Fev to Ralph to Kennedy to Jezza to Soapy. We look back from Cripps to Diesel to Ashman to Gags. We look back from Jammo to SOS to Southby. And we remember Doull, who was incomparable.

The footy club channels that heritage and looks to develop and continue it. As it should.

Henderson did the right thing to advise the club that he was packing his bags and going elsewhere next year. So it is decided that Henderson, who was honoured to be recruited by us, privileged to be selected by us and delighted to play for us, but wishes to play elsewhere next year, will not play with his mates again this year. The club has decided that we need to develop young players and do not want to risk injuring Henderson and damage his trade value.

Both are sound arguments. But both arguments fail badly. They fail to recognise that footy in its essence is about kicking a footy with your mates against the opposition. Henderson IS a 2015 listed Carlton footballer. He and his mates should be respected and allowed to play together for the Mighty Blues.

We are shamed as a footy club for failing to understand this basic existential fact. And it matters. The disrespect feeds into every crevice of the footy club and diminishes its great heritage.
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Assumes his "mates" want to kick a footy with him.
 
Windhover said:
An existential question arises over the treatment of Henderson.

At its very heart footy is about kicking a footy about with your mates against an opposition. Their supporters watch and cheer.

From that simple connection a footy club is formed to better provide for your mates to compete against the opposiion. As time goes by a heritage develops and the footy club becomes an entity that players feel honoured to be recruited to, privileged to be selected by and delighted to play for. Fans become custodians of that heritage. We look back from Caz to Fev to Ralph to Kennedy to Jezza to Soapy. We look back from Cripps to Diesel to Ashman to Gags. We look back from Jammo to SOS to Southby. And we remember Doull, who was incomparable.

The footy club channels that heritage and looks to develop and continue it. As it should.

Henderson did the right thing to advise the club that he was packing his bags and going elsewhere next year. So it is decided that Henderson, who was honoured to be recruited by us, privileged to be selected by us and delighted to play for us, but wishes to play elsewhere next year, will not play with his mates again this year. The club has decided that we need to develop young players and do not want to risk injuring Henderson and damage his trade value.

Both are sound arguments. But both arguments fail badly. They fail to recognise that footy in its essence is about kicking a footy with your mates against the opposition. Henderson IS a 2015 listed Carlton footballer. He and his mates should be respected and allowed to play together for the Mighty Blues.

We are shamed as a footy club for failing to understand this basic existential fact. And it matters. The disrespect feeds into every crevice of the footy club and diminishes its great heritage.
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Maybe his mates didn't want to kick a footy with him? It's the age of free agency and we're a cellar dwelling side. It happens.
 

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I acknowledge I've always been in the Barker camp in respect to coaching but I thought he spoke & handled the Henderson walk out with aplomb. Love the statement about "We are setting standards here from the ground up. Wearing the Guernsey is a privilege & if you lose sight of that then your not wanted."

I accept Bolton will get the job and think he'll be great but he's a bloody good man JB.
 
Windhover said:
An existential question arises over the treatment of Henderson.

At its very heart footy is about kicking a footy about with your mates against an opposition. Their supporters watch and cheer.

From that simple connection a footy club is formed to better provide for your mates to compete against the opposiion. As time goes by a heritage develops and the footy club becomes an entity that players feel honoured to be recruited to, privileged to be selected by and delighted to play for. Fans become custodians of that heritage. We look back from Caz to Fev to Ralph to Kennedy to Jezza to Soapy. We look back from Cripps to Diesel to Ashman to Gags. We look back from Jammo to SOS to Southby. And we remember Doull, who was incomparable.

The footy club channels that heritage and looks to develop and continue it. As it should.

Henderson did the right thing to advise the club that he was packing his bags and going elsewhere next year. So it is decided that Henderson, who was honoured to be recruited by us, privileged to be selected by us and delighted to play for us, but wishes to play elsewhere next year, will not play with his mates again this year. The club has decided that we need to develop young players and do not want to risk injuring Henderson and damage his trade value.

Both are sound arguments. But both arguments fail badly. They fail to recognise that footy in its essence is about kicking a footy with your mates against the opposition. Henderson IS a 2015 listed Carlton footballer. He and his mates should be respected and allowed to play together for the Mighty Blues.

We are shamed as a footy club for failing to understand this basic existential fact. And it matters. The disrespect feeds into every crevice of the footy club and diminishes its great heritage.
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Maybe if Hendo had played like he wanted to be kicking the footy with his mates he would have been selected on the weekend. Hasn't warranted selection for the last month. Not sure that his mates wanted him in the side.
 
BryceGibbs#4 said:
I acknowledge I've always been in the Barker camp in respect to coaching but I thought he spoke & handled the Henderson walk out with aplomb. Love the statement about "We are setting standards here from the ground up. Wearing the Guernsey is a privilege & if you lose sight of that then your not wanted."

I accept Bolton will get the job and think he'll be great but he's a bloody good man JB.
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JB was very good yesterday... Sounded like a young Malthouse!
 
Blue__Balls said:
Assumes his "mates" want to kick a footy with him.
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Henderson wants to play elsewhere next year. Our attitude should be "best of luck" finding anywhere better than here. Players on the 2015 list have signed up to play with others on the list if they get selected. Any who would not want to play with Hendo just because he has decided he wants to play elsewhere next year are getting ahead of themselves. Life is short, footy life shorter. At the end of season 2015 various players are going to retire, be traded, be injured, be delisted and walk from the club. Live season 2015 whilst it lives and as a player worry about 2016 if/when it happens.

Sector 7G said:
Maybe if Hendo had played like he wanted to be kicking the footy with his mates he would have been selected on the weekend. Hasn't warranted selection for the last month. Not sure that his mates wanted him in the side.
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Whether Hendo warranted selection or not is another issue nor relevant to the debate. It is not the stated reason why he has been dropped.
 
I am going to go against the flow here and wish Henderson all the best.

I didn't enjoy his last season with the Blues but I bet he didn't either. Did anyone at Carlton? I doubt it.
 
This is the appropriate place to talk about Hendo, his trade request, whether we should have let him play out the season, his form or otherwise. We will send it back to the Player board when the hot topic dies down.
 
Happy to see the back of players that don't want to play for the club or don't give it their all, this is the time to make a stand about the direction of the club and not let players play just because we need them on-field, showing toughness in decision making and a respect of the Carlton jumper is something that hasn't been seen for a while and Barker said it best. Carlton have let the need for players to play because we are bad on-field, regardless of the player's attitude, override the correct and proper decision for change to the club. Letting players like this go and getting players in who want to play and that will respect the jumper and club is better for us in creating a better culture and a new direction for Carlton Football Club. The hard decisions have to be made now to form a new direction, if they aren't made when we are rebuilding then it will be a shaky foundation again and will crumble again, just as this late 2000's early 2010's rebuild has failed.
 
Gil has nothing to do with the clubs and the players... getting himself embroiled in this just adds a level that isnt required.

And it's not like other players in the past havent informed their clubs before the end of the season that they want out. I just don't remember any of them being so public about it.


EDIT: Actually there was Gaz... didnt he announce right up near the start of the season that he was going to GC17?
 
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