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So you can't name one person so you just make it up.
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I named 2 you goose, and considering the plethora of RL and RU people on the trust i wouldn't mind betting a few more.
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You named two people that have never said a bad word about AFL.
You just make stories up to fuel your paranoia.
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-05-05/alan-jones-meets-the-giants
Alan Jones Meets The GIANTS
GIANTS Media May 5, 2014 3:55 PM
Co-captains Callan Ward and Phil Davis and Head Coach Leon Cameron with Alan Jones.
Sydney broadcaster and former Wallabies coach Alan Jones has visited the GIANTS, meeting with the club’s player leadership group.
Jones addressed the club’s leadership group and emerging young leaders at the invitation of former Australian test opener and GIANTS’ Player Development Coordinator Simon Katich.
Jones coached the Wallabies for 4 years with 86 victories from 102 matches including 23 victories in 30 Tests and the 1984 Grand Slam.
In 1985, Jones was awarded Coach of the Year from the Confederation of Australian Sport.
The 1986 Bledisloe Cup win was the first time that had been achieved in 39 years and in 1988, Jones was made a Member of the Order of Australia for his service to Rugby Union.
In 1989, Jones was elected to the Sport Australia Hall of Fame for his contribution to sport as the Australian rugby union coach.
Jones spoke to the players about his experiences as Wallabies coach and how to achieve success. He toured the club’s new training facility the Learning Life Centre and was presented with a GIANTS jumper by co-captains Phil Davis and Callan Ward.
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The demographic centre of Sydney is west of Olympic Stadium.
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Probably when all the other clubs stop getting their concessions.
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The crowd was a little disappointing even allowing for the weather forecast, the stadium, Sydney supplying the spectators and the time slot but the sponsors know the value of the Swans. They would be rapt with the increase in attendance this year, the finals campaign and the growth of Australian Football in Sydney generally.There are a few putting $15mil where their mouth is but you disagree, fair dinkum what is your conclusion
http://www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/sydney_swans_swoop_for_sponsorship_qJcgY73WMMlPG8HG1htzcP
ANZ unfortunately has to be used to keep the rl dominated SCG in check. If the government wastes money on upgrading ANZ then Australian Football could benefit.
So all of the other clubs will have access to the best junior in their zone like Sydney does with it's academy, plus the other concession that won't be named?
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I fully support other clubs having access to zones the size of Sydney's where Australian football is running a mean last in participation in the football codes. Find one and go for it.
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Wastes money?
If the government don't spend money on an upgrade they'll be getting back a completely run down asset when the lease runs out in 18 years.
There'll end up being $300 million spent on a redevelopment, with $100 coming from the State Government. The rest will come from the current lessors in return for an extended lease.
Good call. Where can I buy a West Coast membership? Actually I'm not sure I can commit, I had better see how they go in finals first.
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The biggest issue is the ground is too far removed from the Swans key supporter base which is predominately in the Eastern Suburbs and the North Shore. Whilst there are supporters in the West, it is definitely not the main driving region for the Swans.
The ground and precinct area are also shocking.
Has there been any light shed in this thread on when the contract finishes?
The ground and precinct area are also shocking.
Has there been any light shed in this thread on when the contract finishes?
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I hope people having fun trolling in this thread realise the Sydney membership is at it's highest, and the crowd attendance for H&A this season was pretty close to as well. I expect many people were saving for the prelim/grand final. Flights/accommodation to Melbourne aren't cheap and that $$ spent on the QF could go to the grand final. Although that all said - I expect the prelim crowd to be much better or I will admit that's embarrassing too.
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How do you fix the problem of the half the seats being too far away?
There are obstructions even in the lower section.
Maybe they could spend some money on grass!
You have the SCG and SFS for H&A so there isn't the benefit in an upgrade.
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Not really. It's an easy access by train. The main problem is that ANZ is a big cold, windy stadium with less good viewing seats than the SCG.
The fact there is little social infrastructure there is a minor detraction also.
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True the journey to Homebush is much easier than you think once you do it a couple of times, but it's still a pain for most supporters. By getting to Central, you're more or less effectively getting to your teams usual home venue than you've got another 30-40 minute journey each way on top of it. Not desirable.
Agreed ANZ is a shithole. None of this helps.
meh about as expected by anyone with a brain.
swans have 40K of members almost 10K in vic overall 36K at anz on a s**t day just means no neutrals arrived.
If this was in Melbourne under those conditions how many neutral supporters would have shown up if they had to pay to get in?
Wet weather reflects a supporter base with around 30K Swans members in Sydney. A crowd of 36K is a strong crowd, it shows the members are still showing up.
and while we've got some ways to go in getting casual supporters to attend in wet weather it's far from the doom and gloom people are reading into it.
people just don't seem to understand if your in a city that has 1 or 2 clubs and your club has a base of around 30K in that city, any crowd above 30K is a good crowd.
4 years ago this game would have drawn 23,000 odd it shows great growth for the club.
swans have 40K of members almost 10K in vic overall 36K at anz on a s**t day just means no neutrals arrived.
If this was in Melbourne under those conditions how many neutral supporters would have shown up if they had to pay to get in?
Wet weather reflects a supporter base with around 30K Swans members in Sydney. A crowd of 36K is a strong crowd, it shows the members are still showing up.
and while we've got some ways to go in getting casual supporters to attend in wet weather it's far from the doom and gloom people are reading into it.
people just don't seem to understand if your in a city that has 1 or 2 clubs and your club has a base of around 30K in that city, any crowd above 30K is a good crowd.
4 years ago this game would have drawn 23,000 odd it shows great growth for the club.
Quick question, are there further plans to develop the eastern side of the SCG? From this image it looks like there is an idea to extend the Trumper stand around, in addition to some much upgrades with the Churchill and Brewongle (a decent camera position for AFL matches would be nice). Would the AFL just continue with the terrible arrangement with ANZ until the SCG upgrades are complete and capacity is over 50k? I'd imagine the NRL would be in favour of pouring money into the SCG if it sees ANZ bring in the ends so it becomes a proper rectangular field.
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Quick question, are there further plans to develop the eastern side of the SCG? From this image it looks like there is an idea to extend the Trumper stand around, in addition to some much upgrades with the Churchill and Brewongle (a decent camera position for AFL matches would be nice). Would the AFL just continue with the terrible arrangement with ANZ until the SCG upgrades are complete and capacity is over 50k? I'd imagine the NRL would be in favour of pouring money into the SCG if it sees ANZ bring in the ends so it becomes a proper rectangular field.
the final upgrade will see 60,000 but it right now the state government can't contribute money towards it without having to pay compo to ANZ over some *ed deal.
ANZ will never go full rectangle because of the contract they signed to have the government fork out cash during the reconfiguration.
Waiting list for members mate, we have too many already. Get to the back of the line.
Don't know what you're all complaining about. Sub 40k finals crowds at the Gabba go off. Seems you southerners don't know how to cheer at the footy yet to create a finals-like atmosphere. *insertpokedtonguegif*
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The next stage is to rebuild the Brewongle and Churchill Stands at a cost of a little over $200 million. Won't happen for a while though as the government's first priority is to upgrade Allianz and ANZ.Quick question, are there further plans to develop the eastern side of the SCG? From this image it looks like there is an idea to extend the Trumper stand around, in addition to some much upgrades with the Churchill and Brewongle (a decent camera position for AFL matches would be nice). Would the AFL just continue with the terrible arrangement with ANZ until the SCG upgrades are complete and capacity is over 50k? I'd imagine the NRL would be in favour of pouring money into the SCG if it sees ANZ bring in the ends so it becomes a proper rectangular field.
This is all incumbent on the lease of 49% of poles and wires to raise the funds required.
There are some interesting swans crowds over the years. Up way back in the day, 60 and 70k. Then right down. Up and down of late. It seems to be depending on just the overall package and how must interest they can buy compared to consistency. 41 for an elimination final in 2010. 38 for a semi final last year. So it's probably fair to say it's a bit down on last year.
The bulldogs semi's in 08 and 09 against interstate sides (Syd and Bris) might be some type of guide. 42 and 47 respectively.
Agree the swans members were obviously turning up. But the big thing about Sydney is they should have 30k members but hundreds of thousands who call themselves swans fans even if they only watch one game a year. That's how it is with Melbourne Storm for me and heaps of other people. So come finals they should get some of these thousands and thousands of people to buy tickets.
It's too early to judge. Let's see what the prelim is. If it's good weather and the ground is in decent enough condition as it was on the weekend then that's 2 excuses gone.
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I agree with your comments, but the fact is there have been much larger crowds in the past(beyond 4 years). IMO there are a few varied reasons for that but the important aspect is the Swans now have a solid foundation with a good and popular ground, popular brand and onfield drive.
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They'll play either North or Geelong, one of whom is not a very popular club in Sydney. If it's North they will struggle to crack 40,000.
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