Hyundai A-League 2015/16: General Chat

[Borry]

The way the FFA has handled the anti-social behaviour in matches has been quite appalling to be honest.

Members accused for offences they have never committed.

There also seems to be a problem where there are fans who are engaging in quite questionable behaviour, but are banned on offences they never committed, for example lighting flares. If they have a problem with a fan who is swearing too much, engaging in racist or other very distasteful chants for example, they should be sanctioned on the grounds of anti-social behaviour, not on the grounds of flare ignition. If you sanction on the grounds of flare-ignition than the banned and their supporters have every right to and are compelled to proclaim their innocence and complain about the handling of that member.

The security needs to investigate incidents properly, and needs to make sure they have the right accused. The FFA has a duty of care to ensure these cases are investigated properly and the right sanctions are handed out to the right people.

So many conservatives, who believe that we should remain a democratic country in every aspect, at the same time as advocating a Soviet style police state.

 

[giggler99]

The way the FFA has handled the anti-social behaviour in matches has been quite appalling to be honest.

Members accused for offences they have never committed.

There also seems to be a problem where there are fans who are engaging in quite questionable behaviour, but are banned on offences they never committed, for example lighting flares. If they have a problem with a fan who is swearing too much, engaging in racist or other very distasteful chants for example, they should be sanctioned on the grounds of anti-social behaviour, not on the grounds of flare ignition. If you sanction on the grounds of flare-ignition than the banned and their supporters have every right to and are compelled to proclaim their innocence and complain about the handling of that member.

The security needs to investigate incidents properly, and needs to make sure they have the right accused. The FFA has a duty of care to ensure these cases are investigated properly and the right sanctions are handed out to the right people.

So many conservatives, who believe that we should remain a democratic country in every aspect, at the same time as advocating a Soviet style police state.

Well said

All we are asking for is our rights of appeal can't see why this so hard for the FFA may even if that said person has to put up a bind for an appeal.

 

[giggler99]

Sydney FC to request referee Chris Beath be removed from their fixtures
Sebastian Hassett

The ongoing tension between Sydney FC and referee Chris Beath has boiled over, with the Sky Blues set to submit a claim to Football Federation Australia asking that the controversial official be taken off their matches for the rest of the season.

After reviewing Thursday's match between Sydney and Wellington Phoenix, which ended in a 0-0 stalemate, the club believed they were left with no option but to request the 31-year-old be removed from controlling their matches.

The club was on the receiving end of a 29 fouls, more than double Wellington's total of 14, with Sydney believing they should have roughly the same number of fouls, or even less, than the the visitors. They also believe they were denied two clear penalty claims.

Only twice this season have Sydney made 20 fouls or more - with Beath at the helm for both matches. The other match was against Melbourne Victory (22 to 15 fouls) two weeks ago.

In every other game, Sydney has committed between 12 and 17 fouls, with the opposing side always reaching similar numbers.

Sydney FC chief executive Tony Pignata confirmed in a statement to Fairfax Media that the club was unhappy with the referee and had requested action from the FFA.

"We have written to the FFA regarding the officiating at Thursday night's game and have asked for explanations regarding a number of issues. We are awaiting their response," he said.

Beath was one of three referees given full-time status this season after the FFA bowed to public pressure concerning the need to raise the standard of refereeing in the A-League.

The other two referees were Jarred Gillett and Ben Williams, with the latter under fire recently for his decision not to dismiss Central Coast Mariners' forward Roy O'Donovan for his crude tackle on Victory's Leigh Broxham last week.

Stood down from the main officiating duties this week, Williams was given the fourth officials' role for Thursday night's game and repeatedly drew the ire of Arnold.

The pair were seen heatedly arguing numerous times, with Williams eventually refusing to acknowledge Arnold, infuriating the coach after a succession of controversial fouls were given against the Sky Blues.

It is known that Williams and Arnold have clashed before, although Sydney will only be asking for Beath to be stood down.

When contacted on Friday, Arnold refused to comment on the issue and would not be drawn on his relationship with Beath or Williams.

Arnold also sidestepped the media on Thursday night, refusing to attend the post-match press conference and ignoring requests from Fox Sports to speak to their live panel.

He sent his assistant, Steve Corica, to perform all media duties. Corica explained Arnold did not want to receive another rebuke from the FFA.

"He's a little bit frustrated with how things went and a few of the decisions that were made. After he's been fined a few times, he thought it best that I come down," Corica said. "There were a lot throughout the game he was frustrated with. The amount of [incorrectly adjudged] fouls that we gave away, maybe a couple of penalty calls didn't go our way. I thought they were bit harsh."

One mischievous Sky Blues fan even hacked into Beath's Wikipedia entry after Thursday's match, declaring Beath "openly admitted that he hates Sydney FC" and "will give all 50-50 challenges against them and will never award them a penalty".

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...r-fixtures-20151127-gl9kv0.html#ixzz3sgcPWoCo

lol bunch of whingers!!

 

[nobbyiscool]

Arnold is so pathetic. From the perspective of being a whinger and from the perspective of coaching his team to play crap football, this league would be so much better without him.

All of us have spent a week defending the game because we want to see it grow. But having coaches like Arnold talking down the on-field product and actively making the on-field product rubbish is a bigger hurdle than anything gutter journalists can throw at us - especially in a market as big as Sydney.

I'm still trying to figure out the 2 alleged penalties that they should've been given on Thursday night...

 

[Redalert]

He's a decent coach, terrible attitude though. There's always some excuse for Sydney and Arnie, its never that the club, players or coach just aren't good enough.

Either way I'm ok with all this whinging, it just means that will Sydney will keep denying that they need to change how they to actually progress.

 

[brucetiki]

Arnold going for a role with the BCCI?

 

[hey shorty]

His head is so far up his own backside it's not funny, fits in well with Sydney FC as a whole.

 

[giggler99]

Why A-League clubs should be searching for Australian coaches instead of overseas talent
COMPARE the playing CV’s between respective A-League coaches and only a handful even come close to Adelaide United’s Guillermo Amor and Melbourne City’s John van’t Schip.

World Cup Socceroos John Aloisi (played in England, Italy and Spain’s top flights) and Tony Popovic (Crystal Palace captain) are the local standouts, while Graham Arnold and Kevin Muscat also had decent careers.

The A-League has reiterated that a glorious playing career is not a prerequisite to become a coaching hit, nor does it guarantee success.

Van’t Schip, who was a classy winger that represented Holland (41 caps), Ajax and Genoa with distinction, deserves to see out the season with a fully fit squad at his disposal but is no guarantee of seeing out the final year of his contract.

The more telling tale is Amor, the stylish former Barcelona and Spain midfielder who was a first XI player at Euro 96 and the 1998 World Cup and won 37 caps and played 375 top flight games in Spain.

After eight years in total working as a director of youth football at his former club Barcelona, overseeing the development of the likes of Lionel Messi, Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta and Gerard Pique, Adelaide United lured him as a technical director (TD) in August 2014.

When Josep Gombau, who quit playing and started coaching in his teens, left at the end of last season Amor was appointed for his first head coaching role.

Adelaide’s demise since has been rapid and it’s painful watching this car crash unfold because Amor appears to be an absolute gentleman.

This makes the situation even more difficult for Adelaide’s players, who look lost and in need of leadership and inspiration.

John van't Schip had a decorated career in Holland.

It’s difficult to see that coming from softly-spoken Amor, whose assistant coach is his quasi interpreter. Amor said Adelaide should have won last Saturday against Melbourne Victory, but the truth is it could have got nasty if Victory didn’t take its foot off the gas.

A youth focused TD and a senior coaching role is vastly contrasting. Did Adelaide take this into account when appointing Amor and if so, did they believe he was a better candidate than anyone local?

With the top five sides coached by locals and with Ange Postecoglou at the helm of the Socceroos, there’s never been a better time for A-League clubs to search in their own backyard for coaches.

Reds coach Guillermo Amor has had a tough initiation to the A-League. Picture: Sarah Reed.

Muscat, Popovic, Aloisi and Arnold have all defied critics and emerged as high-calibre coaches while Newcastle’s Scott Miller, who’s 34 and never played professionally, is rewriting the rule books.

Overseas coaches should not be snubbed, but the bar has been raised but the ambitious local bunch.

Gombau added an enthralling new dimension to the A-League and ambitious coaches like him are welcomed.

But the improvement of the coaching courses, the evolution of the A-League and the rising number of retired players who experienced professional football in Europe has resulted in a growing pool of quality local options and the FFA Cup is a great stage to showcase it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/f...t/news-story/c38d093744b4416fbb7bb8a8f4cbfd47

Agree plenty of talented coaches in Australia Muscat, Popovic, Arnold and Ange are testament to that. unless it's a Guus or a Pep, I think clubs should stick to Aussie coaches.

 

[giggler99]

Frank Lowy takes parting shot at Melbourne City
December 7, 2015
Ben McKay


Departed FFA chairman Frank Lowy has urged Melbourne City to add a superstar to their five-star scoring machine.

Even before fan boycotts sent A-League attendances firmly into reverse, FFA was concerned about lacklustre crowd numbers in the competition's 11th season.

City are wowing on the field, with hauls of five goals in their past two outings taking them to the top of the scoring charts.

But the sister club to English Premier League giants Manchester City are struggling to tick over turnstiles, averaging just 7,370 fans to AAMI Park this season.

It's the smallest figure of any club and has executives in head office tearing their hair out given the resources available to City.

City's American counterpart club New York City FC has seen Frank Lampard, Andrea Pirlo and David Villa run around this year without an equivalent signing coming to Melbourne.

Lowy said he made FFA's feelings known to City in the last days of his tenure.

"We need more personalities in the game ... Del Piero and people like him," he told AAP.

"I had a discussion with them, pointed them out the expectations.

"I talked about (marquees), big personalities."

City's two marquees have begun the season in contrasting style.

Socceroo Aaron Mooy is on Johnny Warren Medal-winning form while international marquee Robi Koren has not played since round two.

A calf injury originally diagnosed as a two-week injury has ballooned out to six weeks but the 35-year-old is back in training and could resumed this month.

While the marquee slots are filled, City is understood to be considering options to bring a guest player for the back half of the season.

Corey Gameiro's season-ending ACL rupture, while unwanted, also gives the club flexibility to sign another player on an injury replacement contract.

But a new "banking" provision that allow A-League clubs to save unused parts of their salary cap for use in future years must also be considered.

That means City is more likely to promote a youth-team player in Gameiro's place rather than hunt for the next Harry Novillo, who first joined on a similar deal last year.

Unlike injury replacement players, the wages of guest players are not part of the salary cap.

John van `t Schip's side moved up to fifth on the table with their thumping 5-1 win at Central Coast on Thursday.

City will gun for a third-straight win at Newcastle on Sunday.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/socc...g-shot-at-melbourne-city-20151207-glhdd3.html

Interesting... I think City would be more concerned about challeneging for the league atm then to bring in Gimmicks.

On a side note a mate of mine saw Kaka in Melbourne on the weekend he saw him dinning at Lygon Street. I did bit of digging and he is currently in Australia on what purpose I have no idea. Ange on the outsiders said a big signing is in the works, where there is smoke there is fire. Interesting times.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Level is onside

Fail

 

[2006_Eagles]

Adelaide raped twice!

LOLOLOLllolOL

 

[Greasyrhys]

We'd better put a few legit balls into the net...

 

[hey shorty]

We will. Strebre can't work out which team he hates more.

 

[giggler99]

Thought that last last play was offside good call imo by the linesman.

 

[hey shorty]

Thought that last last play was offside good call imo by the linesman.

Benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker but you're probably right. First 1 was on.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker but you're probably right. First 1 was on.

This. Both were on and if they were off it was only a micrometer. Advantage to the attacker.

 

[giggler99]

Benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker but you're probably right. First 1 was on.

yeah first one looked on and should have been benefit of the doubt, the second his head was offside and he used it to score, so good call for mine.

 

[hey shorty]

Andy Harper is simply insufferable.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Lol I would have redded him for that

 

[giggler99]

JEGGO!!!! what a goal!!

 

[2006_Eagles]

Dammit, I missed the goal coz I turned over to Family Feud

 

[hey shorty]

Bit of magic from Draco Malfoy.

 

[2006_Eagles]

What a sick snap for goal

 

[giggler99]

Well that was unexpected by SydneyFC, nice goal through.

 

[hey shorty]

We've switched right off.