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How does it prevent or reduce anything? These people are going over there willing to kill and die.
It's a sop to morons. Abbott gets to look tough handling a problem that won't be fixed by his measure.
Abbott wants the Govt to be able to strip citizenship status
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It's a sop to morons. Abbott gets to look tough handling a problem that won't be fixed by his measure.
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The fact you even ask the question says it all!!
I don't want to dumb down my time with responding to stupidity!
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The fact you finished every sentence with an exclamation mark speaks great deals also.
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!!!!!!not all of them all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh for the glory days when we had a minister for Social Inclusion.
At least this thread is consistent. Started badly and kept going.
Internal combustion?
So its in Australia's best interest to have trained Jihadists returning to Australia?
One would think that is not an easy argument to make.
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How is this law implemented? The ISIS recruits return via plane and get sent back to where? Singapore? Kuala Lumpur? What do immigration officials do at their end? Say "hang on, you're Australian" and send you straight back?
I cant see it being terribly difficult. People are DK'd at immigration all the time and deported. The issue is non dual citizens/ being made stateless.
Poms have a system in place re this.
http://icslegal.com/britishcitizenshipukremovalofcitizenship.php
Home Office may also take away your British citizenship if, in their opinion, it would be in the public interest for them to do so and you would not be made stateless as a result of Home Office removing British citizenship.
Maggie, I may be wrong but I think it only refers to dual citizens " you would not be made stateless"
Although, I am not sure if the UK govt ever went through with below. Norway it appears has / plans to do similar. Abbott it would appear is hardly out on a limb here.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502717/Terror-suspects-lose-UK-citizenship-stateless-says-Theresa-May.html#ixzz3bEx54klu
Terror suspects would be stripped of their British citizenship and made ‘stateless’ under plans drawn up by Theresa May
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/norway-make-citizens-fighting-isis-stateless-1462776
A staunch defender of the rights of illegal immigrants having a crack at a legal immigrant. A novel approach.
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Because the status quo is to let them go, presumably with a plane ticket paid for by taxpayers, and when they have had enough to invite them back and resume their life on welfare.
Another state sponsored terrorist: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...th-cult-in-syria/story-fni0cx12-1227368923105
Apparently I am.
And when my repudiation was posted, it was deleted by the mods.
Apparently only people who brag about doing jail time get to post with impunity here.
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Except for the fact that the current proposal is to make them stateless.
Which was the last country to make undesirables stateless? Cuba under Fidel when he exported all his crims to Florida?
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Huh? When these people have their citizenship withdrawn, where do they go?
What if they're Australian born and no one else will give them citizenship? Where do they end up when Australia deports them, and what does their destination country do with them? (The woman in your example would be sent straight back to Australia)
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Then they are s**t out of luck in a different country and no longer our problem, they can return to the caliphate if it is exists, if it doesn't then they backed the wrong horse
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Have you ever left Australia? Any person with an Australian passport will be deported back to Australia if they are in breach of their visa conditions.
They will continue to be our problem. No other country will take them, and will continue to send them back.
Do you think stripping them of citizenship magically confines them to the country they're in?
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I agree the legislation will be interesting
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Its already being opposed by cabinet and the Attorney General, you can put it down as a brain fart by a man who has no appreciation for the law.
This thread confirms one thing for me.
When this Prime Minister wants to seek approval from the lowest common denominator he will release the most lame-arsed Captain's Pick and then point to internet forums and blogs saying "See, the people approve'.
The analysis and understanding of domestic and international law on display here is not only beyond parody, it is as deep as a piece of A4 paper.
When this Prime Minister wants to seek approval from the lowest common denominator he will release the most lame-arsed Captain's Pick and then point to internet forums and blogs saying "See, the people approve'.
The analysis and understanding of domestic and international law on display here is not only beyond parody, it is as deep as a piece of A4 paper.
As above other countries have looked at doing the same thing
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014...strip-brits-of-their-citizenship-returns-to-t
Clause 60 of the immigration bill undoes that restriction, allowing the home secretary to strip people of their passport even if it leaves them stateless.
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And how have they implemented it? Has it been tested?
When the stateless person arrives in a British airport, what do they do?
I have never had my passport checked coming into a UK airport from Europe, so what does it actually change?
As I said, it's sop for morons. A person with an Australian passport coming through Singapore or KL airports will be sent back to Australia.
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