Review Adelaide Player Salaries

[Deaneus!]

This may be an inappropriate topic for public consumption... but they're professional athletes, so tough. We're often discussing how much this player gets, how we can't fit this and that into the cap etc., and I thought I'd have a go drafting what our player payments would look like. I put this together and then the new CBA was released so had to restart

Following are the criteria:
- The salary cap, known officially as Total Player Payments, is A$8.78m for the 2012 season, floor is 95% or A$8.34m
- The average wage for an AFL player was $227k in 2011, at some point this week i saw the figure $236 as 2012's average so i thought, that sounds believable.
- Only half of the salary paid by a club to players on the rookie list counts towards the league's salary cap; rookies are to be paid $53,700 for 2012, so let's say $27k each.
- M. Doughty's (Soul Coughing!) payments only count for 50% being a Veteran previously - i can't find anything about Veteran allowances for 2012, although i thought i saw that there's no discount anymore?
- For most people with 50 games or less, i gave them $150k. Couldn't find the minimum salary for an AFL player allowed, although that would help a lot, hint hint, if anyone knows post it and i can redo.

Otherwise, with a 49 man roster, it's difficult to fit us all in. I suspect we've got such a large roster at the moment, because we have so many players who wouldn't command very much money? Was quite a juggling act, and I'm sure there'll be many opinions that i have under or overpaid players. If i could find the floor for payments for full-list players, that would probably go a long way to correcting the figures.

So... how close am I, and how can you help me correct it?

Maximum 100% $8,780
Minimum 95% $8,341
Total 100% $8,766 ($14k short of the cap!)

#   Player             Games   Salary
  1   Tambling, Richard   118      330
  2   Crouch, Brad          0      150
  3   Reilly, Brent       156      236
  4   Tippett, Kurt        83      550
  5   Thompson, Scott     198      350
  6   Thompson, Luke       11      150
  7   Van Berlo, Nathan   138      300
  8   Johnston, Lewis       2      150
  9   Sloane, Rory         33      150
  10  Jaensch, Matthew     24      150
  11  Doughty, Michael    207      270
  12  Talia, Daniel         9      150
  13  Walker, Taylor       45      250
  14  MacKay, David        63      250
  15  Symes, Brad          78      236
  16  Brown, Luke           0      150
  17  Vince, Bernie        88      300
  18  Johncock, Graham    206      300
  20  Jenkins, Josh         0      150
  21  Knights, Chris       91      400
  22  Otten, Andy          41      250
  23  Petrenko, Jared      36      150
  24  Jacobs, Sam          36      236
  25  Rutten, Ben         169      300
  26  Douglas, Richard     95      250
  27  Lynch, Tom            6      150
  28  Ellis-Yolmen, Cameron 0      150
  29  Kerridge, Sam         0      150
  30  Craig, James (R)      0       27
  31  Lyons, Jarryd         0      150
  32  Dangerfield, Patrick 64      236
  33  Smith, Brodie        14      150
  34  Shaw, Sam             0      150
  35  McKernan, Shaun      17      150
  36  Martin, Brodie        9      150
  37  Callinan, Ian (R)     3       27
  38  Grigg, Mitchell       0      150
  39  Young, Will (R)       2       27
  40  Porplyzia, Jason     88      200
  41  Martyn, Sam (NSW_R)   0       27
  42  Joyce, Nicholas       0      150
  43  Riley, Aiden          0      150
  44  Dowdell, Ben (ATR_R)  0       27
  45  Henderson, Ricky     30      150
  46  Laird, Rory (R)       0       27
  47  Wright, Matthew      19      150
  48  Orval, Dylan (R)      0       27
  49  McIntyre, Tim (R)     0       27

 

[jackster83]

If Tambling is really on more money than our captain, I think I might cry.

 

[anthc]

This may be an inappropriate topic for public consumption... but they're professional athletes, so tough. We're often discussing how much this player gets, how we can't fit this and that into the cap etc., and I thought I'd have a go drafting what our player payments would look like. I put this together and then the new CBA was released so had to restart

Following are the criteria:
- The salary cap, known officially as Total Player Payments, is A$8.78m for the 2012 season, floor is 95% or A$8.34m
- The average wage for an AFL player was $227k in 2011, at some point this week i saw the figure $236 as 2012's average so i thought, that sounds believable.
- Only half of the salary paid by a club to players on the rookie list counts towards the league's salary cap; rookies are to be paid $53,700 for 2012, so let's say $27k each.
- M. Doughty's (Soul Coughing!) payments only count for 50% being a Veteran previously - i can't find anything about Veteran allowances for 2012, although i thought i saw that there's no discount anymore?
- For most people with 50 games or less, i gave them $150k. Couldn't find the minimum salary for an AFL player allowed, although that would help a lot, hint hint, if anyone knows post it and i can redo.

Otherwise, with a 49 man roster, it's difficult to fit us all in. I suspect we've got such a large roster at the moment, because we have so many players who wouldn't command very much money? Was quite a juggling act, and I'm sure there'll be many opinions that i have under or overpaid players. If i could find the floor for payments for full-list players, that would probably go a long way to correcting the figures.

So... how close am I, and how can you help me correct it?

Maximum 100% $8,780
Minimum 95% $8,341
Total 100% $8,766 ($14k short of the cap!)

#   Player             Games   Salary
  1   Tambling, Richard   118      330
  2   Crouch, Brad          0      150
  3   Reilly, Brent       156      236
  4   Tippett, Kurt        83      550
  5   Thompson, Scott     198      350
  6   Thompson, Luke       11      150
  7   Van Berlo, Nathan   138      300
  8   Johnston, Lewis       2      150
  9   Sloane, Rory         33      150
  10  Jaensch, Matthew     24      150
  11  Doughty, Michael    207      270
  12  Talia, Daniel         9      150
  13  Walker, Taylor       45      250
  14  MacKay, David        63      250
  15  Symes, Brad          78      236
  16  Brown, Luke           0      150
  17  Vince, Bernie        88      300
  18  Johncock, Graham    206      300
  20  Jenkins, Josh         0      150
  21  Knights, Chris       91      400
  22  Otten, Andy          41      250
  23  Petrenko, Jared      36      150
  24  Jacobs, Sam          36      236
  25  Rutten, Ben         169      300
  26  Douglas, Richard     95      250
  27  Lynch, Tom            6      150
  28  Ellis-Yolmen, Cameron 0      150
  29  Kerridge, Sam         0      150
  30  Craig, James (R)      0       27
  31  Lyons, Jarryd         0      150
  32  Dangerfield, Patrick 64      236
  33  Smith, Brodie        14      150
  34  Shaw, Sam             0      150
  35  McKernan, Shaun      17      150
  36  Martin, Brodie        9      150
  37  Callinan, Ian (R)     3       27
  38  Grigg, Mitchell       0      150
  39  Young, Will (R)       2       27
  40  Porplyzia, Jason     88      200
  41  Martyn, Sam (NSW_R)   0       27
  42  Joyce, Nicholas       0      150
  43  Riley, Aiden          0      150
  44  Dowdell, Ben (ATR_R)  0       27
  45  Henderson, Ricky     30      150
  46  Laird, Rory (R)       0       27
  47  Wright, Matthew      19      150
  48  Orval, Dylan (R)      0       27
  49  McIntyre, Tim (R)     0       27

Is Knights our second highest paid player, if so massive WTF! should half his salary and give the remainder to Thommo.

 

[bjn1960]

I dont think Brad Crouch is involved in the 2012 cap calculations?

 

[crowsarethebest]

I'd say most new draftees are between the 60k-100k mark. Here's a really helpful article I found, written last year:

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=90746

 

[ManInTheArena]

Thommo and Johncock would be $400k+. Rutten wouldn't be far off either.

 

[BACCS]

I'd say most new draftees are between the 60k-100k mark. Here's a really helpful article I found, written last year:

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=90746

Yep, a mate of mine was on around 63k before playing bonuses last year. That is a typical draftees salary, with first rounders on a little more than others. Thommo, VB, Stiffy and Rutten would be on more than you have listed. Knights is a our 2nd highest player I believe, as we had to pay a shitload to keep him after his 2009 season. Rookies also get a minimum of 34.5k (or very close to that), with playing bonuses obviously. This is increasing to around 55k in the next few years I read.

Tex would also be on around the 350k mark, easily. Also the Porpoise would be around the 300k mark.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

What is the proportion of 'base' salary compared to match payments/bonuses do you reckon?

Just rough percentages of the total cap. Anyone got any idea?

 

[headache1]

I believe the changes with Veterans stipulates that any player who has given 10 years of service to one club, regardless of age, qualifies for a payment of $100k pa outside of the salary cap. Pretty sure there is no limit in regards to how many eligibile players per club can receive said payment.

Not exactly sure, but I would guess that any player eligible who is still on a current contract, would have $100k of said contract removed from the cap.

 

[PykeDream]

I believe the changes with Veterans stipulates that any player who has given 10 years of service to one club, regardless of age, qualifies for a payment of $100k pa outside of the salary cap. Pretty sure there is no limit in regards to how many eligibile players per club can receive said payment.

Exactly right. I wrote a thread on this earlier but nobody replied. I think Reilly, Johncock, Rutten and Doughty would qualify. As for the last bit I'm not sure either when the new rules take effect (immediately or after renewal of individual players' contracts.)

 

[Mego Red]

I think rookies are actually $41,400 for 2012 - the increase starts kicking in for 2013 (at least, that was what the Age reported in their coverage of the new pay deal).

 

[petrenko23]

Petrenko should be getting a pay rise afternthe year he's had.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Is Knights our second highest paid player, if so massive WTF! should half his salary and give the remainder to Thommo.

Correct, he is.

 

[Geoffa32]

Thommo is our highest paid player.

AFL does not. name players in salary brackets they list. It is media speculation that suggest it is Tip. This makes a better story than our.best player.being.highest paid.


I believe Vince and Knights are well paid as well.


Tip is well looked after in third party deals....."Tippets Tips"....

 

[Bacon8]

The old CBA details exactly what a first year draftee gets (plus any bonuses for being a first rounder, or a Top 10 draftee).

I'm sure the new one will too.

 

[FR0GGY]

Thommo is our highest paid player.

Is this fact? Not disputing it ,just wondering if you know or just speculating?

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Thommo is our highest paid player.

AFL does not. name players in salary brackets they list. It is media speculation that suggest it is Tip. This makes a better story than our.best player.being.highest paid.


I believe Vince and Knights are well paid as well.


Tip is well looked after in third party deals....."Tippets Tips"....

Thommo is 100% not our highest paid player.

It's Tippett then Knights.

 

[Cap]

if Knights is our 2nd highest paid player I will be very disappointed.

talk about a waste of money.

 

[cmndstab]

He was signed to a three (I think?) year deal at the end of 2009 on big money. Rumours were he was indeed our second-highest paid player at the time, and I doubt anyone has overtaken him in the interim.

Needless to say it hasn't exactly worked out as we hoped given his horrific run with injuries. There were times 12 months ago where it looked like he may never get fit enough to play again.

 

[Elite Crow]

Symes would have to be on base salary conscidering we gave him only a 1 year deal, you would assume it was take it or leave it.

 

[BACCS]

What is the proportion of 'base' salary compared to match payments/bonuses do you reckon?

Just rough percentages of the total cap. Anyone got any idea?

Scully earned about 180k in his first year with Melbourne, and was on a base wage of just over 100k (as he was a number 1 pick). So roughly 3.5k per game he played that year, which is the same for most players I believe.

 

[BACCS]

if Knights is our 2nd highest paid player I will be very disappointed.

talk about a waste of money.

After his 2009 season, and with Vic clubs circling left, right and centre, it was probably justified at the time. His run with injury is just plain luck for us and him, and makes his wage look a little higher than it should be.

 

[Geoffa32]

Is this fact? Not disputing it ,just wondering if you know or just speculating?

The players believe he is.

 

[Sekaj]

Not sure how accurate the numbers are but I would like to thank/congratulate the OP on his research (no sarcasm). Most revealing ...

 

[Deaneus!]

Not sure how accurate the numbers are but I would like to thank/congratulate the OP on his research (no sarcasm). Most revealing ...

Thank you Sekaj. Sadly, only the rookies would be accurate, as they're on a specific pay scale. Everything is a vaguely educated guess.

With all the tidbits in the thread, I will repost it sometime soon, with *more accurate* numbers.