Administration - The AFL v NRL *Moderator Approved* - Rules in OP

[Our Game]

Some poor crowds for the nrl over the weekend. Sub 10k crowds are always a concern.

The A League didnt do much better it could have been the WCC or I have a feeling that with economy in the doldrums people are saving their pennies and watching on it live TV for free.

Maybe sport overall is losing its appeal for the masses who are now more inclined to watch "events".

 

[Demonoid]

Some alarm bells ringing over at the Daily Tele with the NRL crowds (links are from last week)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...armingly-slumped/story-fnp0lyn3-1227279320355
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...lems-losing-fans/story-fnp0lyn3-1227278559498
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-rounds-of-2015/story-fnp0lyn3-1227277020004

Not sure how they did this weekend just passed. Melbourne Victory also got its lowest home crowd last Friday.

I think the ICC World Cup has definitely played a part - certainly in the case with Rugby League where there would be heaps of cross over.

So will be interesting to see how the AFL kicks off this week in this the year of the (Victorian) fan.

 

[Demonoid]

Meanwhile, looks like Gallop was taking the piss (or was taking something stronger) with his comments re: Socceroos being bigger than the National Cricket team if the tv ratings from last night are anything to go by (and bear in mind this goes on for a whole day as opposed to 2 hours in prime time).

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-ratings-records/story-e6frg996-1227284674453

 

[Kwality]

Interesting to see the NRL looking back at Super League & whether there are lessons to be learned whilst in the AFL we just keep adding more teams.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/was-super-league-simply-ahead-of-its-time-20150330-1maxhx.html


What was the Super League template?
On the 10th anniversary of the Super League war, then NRL chief executive David Gallop told Fairfax Media: " In 10 years' time, we'll look back and say it wasn't such a bad thing".

A decade later, there is growing evidence to suggest Gallop may have been right and the Super League concept was simply ahead of its time.

A key feature of the Super League plan, and the one that caused so much division and bitterness, was reducing the number of teams in Sydney from 11, plus Illawarra, to just four, representing the city's north, south, east and west.

Today
The gulf between the big Sydney clubs and those at the other end of the scale became evident during last year's record breaking NRL grand final and is reinforced by figures for memberships, crowds and finances.

Dont think the AFL cheerleader set will have the staying power to read the article let alone understand what the AFL can take from it.

 

[RUNVS]

Interesting to see the NRL looking back at Super League & whether there are lessons to be learned whilst in the AFL we just keep adding more teams.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/was-super-league-simply-ahead-of-its-time-20150330-1maxhx.html


What was the Super League template?
On the 10th anniversary of the Super League war, then NRL chief executive David Gallop told Fairfax Media: " In 10 years' time, we'll look back and say it wasn't such a bad thing".

A decade later, there is growing evidence to suggest Gallop may have been right and the Super League concept was simply ahead of its time.

A key feature of the Super League plan, and the one that caused so much division and bitterness, was reducing the number of teams in Sydney from 11, plus Illawarra, to just four, representing the city's north, south, east and west.

Today
The gulf between the big Sydney clubs and those at the other end of the scale became evident during last year's record breaking NRL grand final and is reinforced by figures for memberships, crowds and finances.

Dont think the AFL cheerleader set will have the staying power to read the article let alone understand what the AFL can take from it.

The idea behind Super League was fine and if they had pulled it off the NRL would be in a great position at the moment. It is the same situation in the AFL as there are currently 9 AFL teams in Melbourne and really there needs to be 5 teams in Melbourne tops.

Victoria - 6 teams
Western Australia - 3 teams
South Australia - 2 teams
New South Wales - 2 teams
Queensland - 2 teams
Tasmania - 1 team

would be a much healthier competition for the AFL in general.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Gigantor]

I wonder what the NRL administrators will make of today's news, although it was entirely predictable (by some of us at least).

 

[fabulousphil]

I wonder what the NRL administrators will make of today's news, although it was entirely predictable (by some of us at least).

Indeed, as someone who has copped a absolute barrage on the HTB i salute you for actually sticking to yours guns in the face of it.

 

[Rob]

Wow, the Queensland Reds added another 5000 members last week. Nearly 40k now.

Meanwhile 19k rocked up to their last home game......

 

[Gigantor]

Wow, the Queensland Reds added another 5000 members last week. Nearly 40k now.

Meanwhile 19k rocked up to their last home game......

It looks like everyone is now taking a leaf out of the AFL.

 

[Rob]

It looks like everyone is now taking a leaf out of the AFL.

Not sure even an AFL club would have the gall to report a 35% increase in 2 weeks a third of the way into the season.

 

[Gigantor]

Not sure even an AFL club would have the gall to report a 35% increase in 2 weeks a third of the way into the season.

Good point, fair enough, but generally, my observation of the other footy codes is that they have whinged long and hard about how the AFL counted members, but then have turned around and increased the range of memberships on offer.

 

[Aucklander]

I wonder what the NRL administrators will make of today's news, although it was entirely predictable (by some of us at least).

Probably the same reaction as a lot of AFL fans, or they wont get a toss and just carry on as usual.

 

[jatz14]

I wonder what the NRL administrators will make of today's news, although it was entirely predictable (by some of us at least).

Mind you, had they been found guilty, the other side would have said the same thing.

 

[Gigantor]

Probably the same reaction as a lot of AFL fans, or they wont get a toss and just carry on as usual.

I'm sure you're right.

I'm sure it will be completely ignored.

 

[The_Wookie]

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...ered-by-essendon-verdict-20150331-1mc84i.html

"The players were sat in a room by the NRL and ASADA, and the NRL said there would be no more legal support and ASADA told them it could be 18 months to two years before the process was finalised," the agent said. "There was no support from Cronulla, so if the players wanted to keep going it could have been another 18 months with no guarantees they would win, and they would have to fund the case themselves."

"If they had fought they would have won, but Essendon threw millions at supporting their players and the Sharks couldn't afford to do the same," the lawyer said.

 

[Gigantor]

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...ered-by-essendon-verdict-20150331-1mc84i.html

This was all known and understood at the time.

The Cronulla players were a chance to get the same result as the EFC players because ASADA would not have had evidence of which specific players took the two prohibited substances they were accused of taking (even if the club itself admitted to having used the two substances in its own internal report).

But the players were made aware that it could take up to two years to clear their names, but if they took the deal, it meant nothing more than an early end-of season holiday.

It was nothing but a ruse on the part of ASADA.

ASADA were holding a pair, and the Cronulla players folded.

ASADA tried the same ruse with the EFC players, but the players, to their credit, refused to be bullied by a government body which was prepared to push the envelop in terms of ethical practice.

 

[PowerbaII]

Wow, the Queensland Reds added another 5000 members last week. Nearly 40k now.

Meanwhile 19k rocked up to their last home game......

What the hell? They must be seriously flogging the 1 game memberships.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Wow, the Queensland Reds added another 5000 members last week. Nearly 40k now.

Meanwhile 19k rocked up to their last home game......

What the hell? They must be seriously flogging the 1 game memberships.

Sounds suss to me. They've won one from seven and only have 4 more at home (and none for another month) and their star recruit is on the sidelines because of cocaine. 5000 members in a week? Tell 'em they're dreaming.

 

[bigleague]

junior rugby clubs are paid by the reds for signing members.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Interesting to see the NRL looking back at Super League & whether there are lessons to be learned whilst in the AFL we just keep adding more teams.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/was-super-league-simply-ahead-of-its-time-20150330-1maxhx.html


What was the Super League template?
On the 10th anniversary of the Super League war, then NRL chief executive David Gallop told Fairfax Media: " In 10 years' time, we'll look back and say it wasn't such a bad thing".

A decade later, there is growing evidence to suggest Gallop may have been right and the Super League concept was simply ahead of its time.

A key feature of the Super League plan, and the one that caused so much division and bitterness, was reducing the number of teams in Sydney from 11, plus Illawarra, to just four, representing the city's north, south, east and west.

Today
The gulf between the big Sydney clubs and those at the other end of the scale became evident during last year's record breaking NRL grand final and is reinforced by figures for memberships, crowds and finances.

Dont think the AFL cheerleader set will have the staying power to read the article let alone understand what the AFL can take from it.

Rugby league would fold if it was to do this.
Sydney has 6 clubs which produce juniors in reasonable numbers, 4 of them are based in the "west" together they represent almost 65% of the players produced, while the clubs in the north and east produced none in the last 6 years.

the NRL isn't comparably to the AFL the NRL. the NRL requires the clubs to produce the talent. if they go the main supporting arm of the NRL juniors is crippled, this is like suggesting the VFL cut over half its teams in melbourne.

 

[Kwality]

This was all known and understood at the time.

The Cronulla players were a chance to get the same result as the EFC players because ASADA would not have had evidence of which specific players took the two prohibited substances they were accused of taking (even if the club itself admitted to having used the two substances in its own internal report).

But the players were made aware that it could take up to two years to clear their names, but if they took the deal, it meant nothing more than an early end-of season holiday.

It was nothing but a ruse on the part of ASADA.

ASADA were holding a pair, and the Cronulla players folded.

ASADA tried the same ruse with the EFC players, but the players, to their credit, refused to be bullied by a government body which was prepared to push the envelop in terms of ethical practice.

It could also simply be a pragmatic decision by the NRL players & its over, not so the AFL nightmare.

 

[papabear]

re the peptides

it comes down to guilt.

a) the players didn't take peptides
The sharks did the right thing.

Essendon are a bunch of cheats supported by the iron wall of silence and control built by Andy D and carried on by the South Australian. Die hard fans wont care because they would support Robots playing sport so long as it was under the AFL banner. Most people though, especially when they play Essendon will think its a bit of a joke and it will be another knock on the integrity of the competition.

b) the players did take peptides.
The sharks are stupid, the were weak for not supporting them.
Good on the dons for standing their ground and not being bought down by a complete fabrication.

That all said I think a is a bit more likely.

 

[Gigantor]

It could also simply be a pragmatic decision by the NRL players & its over, not so the AFL nightmare.

Yes, it certainly was pragmatic, and there has been no real consequence from it, so one could certainly put forward the case that it was worth it for peace of mind, very similar to David Hicks admitting to anything just to get out of Guantanamo bay.

 

[Kwality]

Yes, it certainly was pragmatic, and there has been no real consequence from it, so one could certainly put forward the case that it was worth it for peace of mind, very similar to David Hicks admitting to anything just to get out of Guantanamo bay.

Hicks ... surely you could come up with a better example?