He isn't taking a spot from a player who will, he is keeping it warm for a player that will but isn't ready yet. Big difference.
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He isn't taking a spot from a player who will, he is keeping it warm for a player that will but isn't ready yet. Big difference.
That's an apples to apples comparison
One player is a multi Premiership player, Brownlow medalist, AA, MVP and club best and fairest and the other has suffered multiple serious knee injuries and his knee is held together by a surgery that has a proven maximum shelf life of 4 years
Why would it have any impact on the urgency to develop a player who plays a COMPLETELY different position?????
Hartigan (we hope) will cover Rutten. He might not be ready, he might never develop.
A running HBF/wingman gives us exactly 0 extra time to wait on the development of a key defender.
That you can't see this is half the fun. No matter how stupid the position, you'll keep digging.
Why would it have any impact on the urgency to develop a player who plays a COMPLETELY different position?????
Hartigan (we hope) will cover Rutten. He might not be ready, he might never develop.
A running HBF/wingman gives us exactly 0 extra time to wait on the development of a key defender.
That you can't see this is half the fun. No matter how stupid the position, you'll keep digging.
I can understand the difference of opinion. But having a premiership player who has only just turned 30 on the list mentoring our youngsters is far from the worst thing in the world. Our best 22 lacks class right now, which means that some players in the current best 22 simply aren't up to scratch and we have to think outside the box to bring in the next generation and teach them what it means to be a success. On field leadership is crucial. He will only be 32 at the start of his final year of the contract. That's not that old.
Re read what you have written. He's taken the spot of a player that isn't ready. What's the best way of getting ready? Playing or not?
No it is a worse idea
His age combined with his history of knee issues along with the Lars uncertainty makes the idea a stinker
Don't forget the cap position & that he doesn't play a position of need
Its all win!
I get gobsmacked on this board at times
Some folk come on this board and rightfully criticise the club for some poor decisions however then you read some of the ideas that are put forward
I'm speechless, I am a man without speech
No he doesn't. Jaensch plays half back. They try not to let him get dragged back too deep.
Putting just any young player in what ever Malceski's spot would be doesn't achieve much unless they are performing and first and foremost warrant selection. The reserves side is where you audition for an AFL spot and we really don't have the young players demanding selection that would hold us in good measure in hardened finals games. Our depth is pretty average with a lot of dead wood and going on what we saw against the Hawks it indicates a rethink of just how good our best is when a side with injuries to their best 22 players beats us. This means over the coming years their will be plenty of chopping and changing as we reinforce our list and trade off players and draft talent that will take time to develop. I see nothing wrong with getting a player like Malceski to mentor these players.
Has played 3 full seasons including a premiership since his last LARS (67 games in 3 seasons). Hardly the stinker you are making it out to be.
I think, to be fair , no one suggested it as an idea per se.
A poster dropped it as a rumour
Don't forget the cap position & that he doesn't play a position of need
Its all win!
Agree
And Smith has a higher efficiency than Malceski
Smith is tracking at 76 % efficiency compared to Malceski 72% so we have our running HB, let's not forget that Hendo had a efficiency rate of 73% in 2013 which was the same as Malceski who was also at 73%
Agree that between Smith and Hendo we have Malceski role covered
What about the guys who are currently playing his spot?
A rumour that people expand and support by saying let's offer him a 3 year deal
Players' development is not in isolation to the rest of the team. We face a defensive unit bereft of experience vs one with some semblence experience; which environment will assist player development?
I am not saying offer him the deal. I am saying I could see why the crows would be doing it.
So you think they are wrong but are arguing for it?
As I said, we have a 22 that isn't up to scratch. Players will be moved as we try and find the right combination for a premiership. Or are you saying you are happy with the best 22 as it stands?
I don't think they are wrong at all. I am only stating why I think they would be doing it and I can see the benefits. I can see the arguments against but we all surely see the need for the crows to go in a different direction in their best 22.
exactly! especially premiership experience.
No-one was expanding. The rumour was we were offering 3 years.
I think realistically most people were thinking 2 would be more appropriate. And he has proved durable. He's pretty cheap. Won't cost a trade. Our back 6 will likely get torn apart next year. We will be heavily relying on Talia and Brown. Some experience would not go astray.
Brown 40 games
Talia 70 games
Henderson 58 games
Jaensch 61 games
Otten 76 games
Laird 31 games
Hartigan 10 games
Luke Thompson 15 games
He's not going to be a complete solution and everything will be good. But as a piece of a puzzle......
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The three year deal was part of the original rumor mate.
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