FTA-TV AFL 360 - 2015

[Taylor]

It would be unprofessional for Lyon to publicly comment on the issue, that puts all coaches in a tricky position when journalists take aim at them in their articles.

You should see the journalists get rabid when a coach has the audacity to question them too. Public enemy #1. The need to have the last word, always.

 

[ManWithNoName]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-16/whateley-the-lyon-manoeuvre/2901776

Here is the Whately article.

This article was disgraceful. Whately at his pontificating, self righteous, pious worst.

Lyon has every right to still be seething over this. Whately has never apologised.

Ross the Boss ftw

 

[JUBJUB]

Gerard's lucky.Imagine sitting through an interview with that googly-eyed boring s**t........and Robbo

 

[JimDocker]

It would be unprofessional for Lyon to publicly comment on the issue, that puts all coaches in a tricky position when journalists take aim at them in their articles.

You should see the journalists get rabid when a coach has the audacity to question them too. Public enemy #1. The need to have the last word, always.

I remember a few months after Ross had arrived, he was asked in an interview about the reaction to his move in the media.

He said something along the lines of " Most people got it about right and handled it professionally, apart from Gerard Whately who was lucky not to get sued" or words to that affect.

 

[peternorth]

Funny that coaches and players, officials say they dont read the papers or watch the news...
Clearly a lie.

yep.

I remember a few months after Ross had arrived, he was asked in an interview about the reaction to his move in the media.

He said something along the lines of " Most people got it about right and handled it professionally, apart from Gerard Whately who was lucky not to get sued" or words to that affect.

lyon should've sued him if he was fair dinnkum

 

[ManWithNoName]

yep.



lyon should've sued him if he was fair dinnkum

The only people that win defamation lawsuits are the lawyers.

 

[peternorth]

The only people that win defamation lawsuits are the lawyers.

lawyers win in any case.

i guess what im suggesting is that if someone publically says "lucky he isnt sued", then stand by convictions.

 

[JimDocker]

lawyers win in any case.

guess what im suggesting is that if someone publically says "lucky he isnt sued", then stand by convictions.

I am pretty sure that when Ross had made the big move over here, his focus was on coaching a footy team and doing his job, rather than starting something that would be a massive distraction.

 

[Father Jack]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-16/whateley-the-lyon-manoeuvre/2901776

Here is the Whately article.

This article was disgraceful. Whately at his pontificating, self righteous, pious worst.

Lyon has every right to still be seething over this. Whately has never apologised.

Why would he apologise? Lyon clearly acted deceitfully towards both his club and management, plus it's very rare for a coach to accept a job whilst the incumbent still holds their position with time left on their contract. Lyon chose to do it, he should be man enough to accept the consequences.

 

[XXRL]

Why would he apologise? Lyon clearly acted deceitfully towards both his club and management, plus it's very rare for a coach to accept a job whilst the incumbent still holds their position with time left on their contract. Lyon chose to do it, he should be man enough to accept the consequences.

Lyon couldn't be open with his club or his management due to the circumstances. He especially couldn't inform his management as they represented Harvey as well.

My recollection was that Lyon did accept the consequences in that he fronted up to a press conference and addressed those questions directly.

If there should be any criticism it should be directed at the club for head-hunting Harvey's replacement while he was still employed. Personally, I think it was the correct decision, but maybe the method could have been nicer.

Whately was way over the top however.

 

[Bluelegs]

Read the article. I know Lyon is touchy on the subject but I don't think was Gerard wrote was that far off the mark.

 

[JimDocker]

Why would he apologise? Lyon clearly acted deceitfully towards both his club and management, plus it's very rare for a coach to accept a job whilst the incumbent still holds their position with time left on their contract. Lyon chose to do it, he should be man enough to accept the consequences.

Bollocks. Lyon acted the only way he could with the situation as it was. His manager was also Mark Harvey's manager. That meant that he had to act alone and outside of the norm.

This is how St Kilda reacted to being "deceived".

“Disappointment is about the only word I can come up with, because Ross served us well. He’s achieved a lot and I had every reason to believe up until 5.30 last night he was going to continue with the St Kilda Football Club. I wouldn’t say [we feel] betrayed, because football is that sort of business, people move on, things change,” said CEO Michael Nettefold yesterday.

Captain Nick Riewoldt, while also “disappointed”, was in a similar frame of mind discussing the issue on Channel Seven.

“I respect his decision. He’s been a great coach for us and we have achieved relative success together, and I wish him all the best for the future,” he said.

They sounded devastated !

 

[peternorth]

Bollocks. Lyon acted the only way he could with the situation as it was. His manager was also Mark Harvey's manager. That meant that he had to act alone and outside of the norm.

This is how St Kilda reacted to being "deceived".

“Disappointment is about the only word I can come up with, because Ross served us well. He’s achieved a lot and I had every reason to believe up until 5.30 last night he was going to continue with the St Kilda Football Club. I wouldn’t say [we feel] betrayed, because football is that sort of business, people move on, things change,” said CEO Michael Nettefold yesterday.

Captain Nick Riewoldt, while also “disappointed”, was in a similar frame of mind discussing the issue on Channel Seven.

“I respect his decision. He’s been a great coach for us and we have achieved relative success together, and I wish him all the best for the future,” he said.

They sounded devastated !

what could st kilda say publicaly. of course they will say theyre disappointed. the word disappointed has lost all meaning anyway these days. no substance.

im interested in getting a st kilda POV as i am not across what happened totally. Plugger35

 

[JimDocker]

what could st kilda say publicaly. of course they will say theyre disappointed. the word disappointed has lost all meaning anyway these days. no substance.

im interested in getting a st kilda POV as i am not across what happened totally. Plugger35

Oh no. Go back and read every second post of Plugger35 since it happened and you will find out what he thinks of Ross.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

Whately was over the top but it also just as much a crack at the AFL and it's money grabbing participants. Ross is just merely trying to be a bully or still prove some point no one gives a s**t about. Would take one 'pious' article from Gerard over 15 crayon sketchings from the man sits to his left and stinks of booze and failure most nights. Add to that Ken Judge and a lot of others who have columns.

 

[JimDocker]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/09/17/in-defence-of-ross-lyon/

This is a great article that puts any of the questions asked into context and puts Whately in his place for being over the top.

 

[Father Jack]

Bollocks. Lyon acted the only way he could with the situation as it was. His manager was also Mark Harvey's manager. That meant that he had to act alone and outside of the norm.

This is how St Kilda reacted to being "deceived".

“Disappointment is about the only word I can come up with, because Ross served us well. He’s achieved a lot and I had every reason to believe up until 5.30 last night he was going to continue with the St Kilda Football Club. I wouldn’t say [we feel] betrayed, because football is that sort of business, people move on, things change,” said CEO Michael Nettefold yesterday.

Captain Nick Riewoldt, while also “disappointed”, was in a similar frame of mind discussing the issue on Channel Seven.

“I respect his decision. He’s been a great coach for us and we have achieved relative success together, and I wish him all the best for the future,” he said.

They sounded devastated !

Yes, of course that was their exact feelings

They just wanted to move on and put it behind them, something poor old Ross clearly can't do.

 

[Beerfish]

I've never seen anything so blustering from Whateley before or since. I think maybe this episode taught him to be measured in all things and to keep emotion out of it wherever possible.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Just read Gerard's article. Don't blame Ross at all. Absolute campaigner act by Gerard writing rubbish like that.

 

[BlueBen]

It's was originally set up to look like a press conference...

Thanks.

Any particular reason why?

 

[Beerfish]

Thanks.

Any particular reason why?

Ever seen a Bomber presser? They were trying to riff on that.

 

[manboob]

Just read Gerard's article. Don't blame Ross at all. Absolute campaigner act by Gerard writing rubbish like that.

Can you explain me a thing?

 

[BlueBen]

Ever seen a Bomber presser? They were trying to riff on that.

I have, I've just never noticed them to be any different visually to any other coaches' press conferences, and thought that there might have been some sort of in-joke that I was missing.

 

[peternorth]

i like whately

 

[Beerfish]

I have, I've just never noticed them to be any different visually to any other coaches' press conferences, and thought that there might have been some sort of in-joke that I was missing.

The in-joke is that his pressers tended to the wacky, off the wall, possibly a little unhinged side of things.