All-Australian Team of Last 15 Years

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Why?

A third tall backman is really just a guy not big enough to be a key defender or not quick/skillful enough to play at half back or in rare cases just surplus to key defender requirements.

Most teams don't play 3 good key defenders because they just don't have them. Someone like Darren Glass or Matthew Scarlett or Harry Taylor could easily zone off and do the role of a Josh Gibson but are more often than not required to play at FB/CHB. These guys are more valuable than third talls who can't play on key forwards, IMO.

Because some clubs play three tall forwards (or a ruckman up forward) and some don't. Most competitive clubs have a third marking option up forward but he's not likely to be a 6'6" giant so a "key defender" won't be able to match him for speed and/or agility. In the case of the former, you can have an LRT/Ben Reid type swing man (which I haven't included) and in the case of the latter (which is more likely) you need a "third tall". A player who can match up on a Gunston type, but also possibly do a job on a Franklin or someone smaller.

 

[reg_lower91]

For me it would be:
FB: Archer - Scarlett - Glass
HBF: Enright - Leppitsch - McLeod
MID: Voss - Ablett - Hird
HFF: Ricciuto - Franklin - Buckley
FF: Akermanis - Lloyd - Richardson
FOL: Cox - Judd - R. Harvey
INT: Goodwin - S. Black - Cousins - Pavlich
COACH : Leigh Matthews

Plenty of honourable mentions can be made, obviously some really good players are always going to miss out. Good little off-season topic, though!

 

[worthy]

For me it would be:
FB: Archer - Scarlett - Glass
HBF: Enright - Leppitsch - McLeod
MID: Voss - Ablett - Hird
HFF: Ricciuto - Franklin - Buckley
FF: Akermanis - Lloyd - Richardson
FOL: Cox - Judd - R. Harvey
INT: Goodwin - S. Black - Cousins - Pavlich
COACH : Leigh Matthews

Plenty of honourable mentions can be made, obviously some really good players are always going to miss out. Good little off-season topic, though!

All teams are subjective, but, Goodwin over Mitchell?

 

[Membling]

All teams are subjective, but, Goodwin over Mitchell?

Goodwin over Goodes?

Don't have to like the bloke but he can play.

 

[Scotland]

Because some clubs play three tall forwards (or a ruckman up forward) and some don't. Most competitive clubs have a third marking option up forward but he's not likely to be a 6'6" giant so a "key defender" won't be able to match him for speed and/or agility.

Plenty of clubs have ruckmen who can play forward. Who matches up on them?

In the case of the former, you can have an LRT/Ben Reid type swing man (which I haven't included) and in the case of the latter (which is more likely) you need a "third tall". A player who can match up on a Gunston type, but also possibly do a job on a Franklin or someone smaller.

LRT/Ben Reid are capable of playing FB/CHB.

RE: the bolded I can think of very few players who fit that description. Guys like Corey Enright and Josh Gibson certainly don't.

 

[mike123]

Plenty of clubs have ruckmen who can play forward. Who matches up on them?



LRT/Ben Reid are capable of playing FB/CHB.

RE: the bolded I can think of very few players who fit that description. Guys like Corey Enright and Josh Gibson certainly don't.

Corey Enright can't play key back but Josh Gibson can when he is required to do so.

 

[Dogsman16]

My 1999 - 2014 best team is.... (Picked on team balance not neccasarily the best 22 of this era).

FB: Enright, Glass, Scarlett
HB: McLeod, Leppitisch, Hodge
C: Buckley, Voss, Goodes
HF: Akermanis, Riewoldt, Hird
FF: B.Johnson, L.Franklin, Pavlich
R: Cox, G.Ablett, C.Judd
Int: M.Riccuito, B.Ottens, Cousins, Black,

 

[mike123]

B: Corey Enright ~ Mal Michael ~ Josh Gibson
HB: Andrew Mcleaod ~ Harry Taylor ~ Luke Hodge

C: Ben Cousins ~ Nathan Buckley ~ Adam Goodes

HF: James Hird ~ Nick Riewoldt ~ Gary Ablett
F: Eddie Betts ~ Mathew Lloyd ~ Buddy Franklin

R: Dean Cox ~ Chris Judd ~ Michael Voss

I/C: Gavin Wanganeen ~ Jason Akermanis ~ Simon Black ~ Sam Mitchell

 

[Sttew]

B: Corey Enright ~ Mal Michael ~ Josh Gibson
HB: Andrew Mcleaod ~ Harry Taylor ~ Luke Hodge

C: Ben Cousins ~ Nathan Buckley ~ Adam Goodes

HF: James Hird ~ Nick Riewoldt ~ Gary Ablett
F: Eddie Betts ~ Mathew Lloyd ~ Buddy Franklin

R: Dean Cox ~ Chris Judd ~ Michael Voss

I/C: Gavin Wanganeen ~ Jason Akermanis ~ Simon Black ~ Sam Mitchell

not a bad team, but no Scarlett? Universally described as the best full back this century? And Ablett on HFF? That's lazy.

 

[worthy]

Goodwin over Goodes?

Don't have to like the bloke but he can play.

Yes, didn't even notice that.

As Bollox posted earlier, Goodes would be the perfect utility coming off the bench, along with Pavlich, as they can play in several positions.

 

[Sttew]

Enright - Scarlett - Glass
McLeod - Pavlich - Hodge
Cousins - Ablett - Judd
Hird - Riewoldt - Goodes
Franklin - Lloyd - Brad Johnson
Cox - Voss - Harvey
i/c: Richardson; Mitchell; Buckley; Akermanis

 

[Hrovat24]

Dustin Fletcher 1 AA since 1999? Nah I wouldn't be having him in

No to franklin as well

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

B: Corey Enright ~ Mal Michael ~ Josh Gibson
HB: Andrew Mcleaod ~ Harry Taylor ~ Luke Hodge

C: Ben Cousins ~ Nathan Buckley ~ Adam Goodes

HF: James Hird ~ Nick Riewoldt ~ Gary Ablett
F: Eddie Betts ~ Mathew Lloyd ~ Buddy Franklin

R: Dean Cox ~ Chris Judd ~ Michael Voss

I/C: Gavin Wanganeen ~ Jason Akermanis ~ Simon Black ~ Sam Mitchell

Eddie Betts and Gibson have not been selected All Australian team.

I dont think they can be counted.

 

[mike123]

Eddie Betts and Gibson have not been selected All Australian team.

I dont think they can be counted.

Betts should have been this year and Gibson last year

 

[Donakebab]

B: C Johnson (Bris) - Glass (WCE) - Scarlett (Geel)
HB: Enright (Geel) - Leppitsch (Bris) - McLeod (Adel)
C: Cousins (WCE) - Voss (Bris) - Buckley (Coll)
HF: Akermanis (Bris) - N Riewoldt (StK) - Hird (Ess)
F: Ottens (Geel/Rich) - Franklin (Haw/Syd) - S Johnson (Geel)
R: Cox (WCE) - Judd (WCE/Carl) - Ablett (Geel/GC)
I: Hodge (Haw), Goodes (Syd), Black (Bris), Ling (Geel)

Some very stiff exclusions and because I feel bad for them:

B: Clement (Coll) - Michael (Bris/Ess) - Fletcher (Ess)
HB: Gilbee (WB) - C Cornes (PA) - A McKay (Carl)
C: Crawford (Haw) - Pendlebury (Coll) - Lappin (Bris)
HF: Chapman (Geel) - Tredrea (PA) - Ricciuto (Adel)
F: Milne (StK) - Richardson (Rich) - Harvey (NM)
R: Sandilands (Freo) - Mitchell (Haw) - Kerr (WCE)
I: K Cornes (PA), Bartel (Geel), Swan (Coll), Pavlich (Freo)

Still some very bloody stiff exclusions…

Michael was never named AA.

 

[mike123]

Michael was never named AA.

I don't think that's the point of the thread.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

I don't think that's the point of the thread.

You're right, but I would still rate Scarlett and Lake ahead of him. No slight on Michael though, he was very good.

 

[Donakebab]

I don't think that's the point of the thread.

So name players to comprise the best AA side of the last 15 years by adding in a bloke who never made an AA side. Sound logic.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

No to franklin as well

LOOOOOL

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Eddie Betts and Gibson have not been selected All Australian team.

I dont think they can be counted.

Gibson should be a dual AA to be honest but yeah it does make it hard to select him.

 

[smitchell]

wheres cam mooney?

Putting on lip gloss somewhere.

 

[MC_9]

Gibson should be a dual AA to be honest but yeah it does make it hard to select him.

He does have a B&F in a premiership year, which is one of the highest honours in the game.

 

[carnthedons]

He does have a B&F in a premiership year, which is one of the highest honours in the game.

While that's true and spoken of around here, how many B&F's in premiership years can you name outside of Hawthorn players and D Fletcher without doing research?

 

[HolyWars]

I tried to make a list, but it's just too damn hard! I made about 35,365 changes so I opted to peaheart it.

Milne must be in imo as much as we all hate his guts.

Locks without debate: Ablett - Voss - Cox - Franklin - Judd - Buckley.

 

[MC_9]

While that's true and spoken of around here, how many B&F's in premiership years can you name outside of Hawthorn players and D Fletcher without doing research?

Off the top of my head.

Simon Black x 2, Michael Voss, Chris Judd, Garry Ablett Jnr, Corey Enright x 2, Josh Kennedy. Also if I had to guess the others, Warren Tredrea, Barry Hall and Scott Pendlebury.

Then the Hawks being, Franklin, Gibson & Lewis.

But I don't think that it is that relevant, as you have to be any extremely good player to win a B&F in a premiership year. Some ordinary players have made AA over the journey, yet only champs have won B&F's in premiership years.