ALP sends renegages to Syria

[Lebbo73]

The problem I've always had with the deposing of Middle Eastern/North African governments is that we have never known what we will be getting that replaces them and it has now been shown without exception that the new governments are worse than the old ones.

I've travelled through Libya when Gaddafi was in power and whilst I won't say he was a saint, he wasn't as bad as the West made him out to be, he was a hell of a lot better than the Saudi's have ever been. Just as with Iran, Egypt and Iraq under Saddam, they would show no mercy to Islamic fundamentalists and actively looked to clean them out of their countries. The West though used these groups as reason for wanting the governments overthrown and now we are paying the price. Getting rid of one iron fisted government when you know that what replaces them will include radical fundamentalists is complete lunacy, but unfortunately the Western world is currently run by a bunch of lunatics and it will take a generation to clean them up.

Just look at what has happened in countries the West has caused an overthrow (or tried to overthrow) the government in recent times:
Iraq - gone from Shiite run government that was only against Sunni groups who were aligned to Saudi Arabia and want Saudi style laws, where other religious minorities openly tolerated (13% population Coptic Christian) with a successful economy and constantly improving standard of living and standard level of corruption ; to a country near the bottom of the standard of living charts worldwide, no religious tolerance of minority religious (Coptic Christians <1%) and a government hell bent on retribution of all those from the former regime, with rampant corruption that is strangling a collapsed economy.
Libya - was a strong growing economy expanding from just oil products, could lay strong claims to the following compared to other African nations, best standard of living, highest education standards and best health system, corruption was low, religiously tolerant of all and provided you didn't complain about the person running the government you were not going to be harassed. Now economy is struggling to rebuild, corruption is rife and infrastructure badly damaged with standard of living having dropped markedly.
Egypt - religiously tolerant progressive and one of the leaders in Africa/Middle East in trying to seek peace agreements between waring nations/ and civil wars, with the rarest of things in Africa/Middle East an independent press. Now problems with religious violence, economy nearing collapse, any dissenting voices silenced. No longer cares about rest of Africa and only staying involved in Palestinian conflict because of necessity.
Ukraine - overthrown democratically elected government because pro-Russia, installed puppet pro-EU government which has never been properly elected and immediately recognised it despite no election being held. Refuse to accept annexation of Crimea (which was Russian anyway prior to donation to Ukraine administration during Soviet era) which was done in an election, like it or not getting over 75% in a vote was a given no matter how the election was held and everyone knows it. Now have civil war in parts of the country and a government that is no interested in providing any assistance to any ethnic Russian areas. Corruption still rife
Syria - pro-Iranian government that whilst religiously tolerant did have issues with Sunni minority and Kurds (but then almost everyone in history has had problems with the Kurds) with a healthy economy. Now racked with civil war involving various groups including religious fundamentalists of the worst kind who have no tolerance for any with differing beliefs of their own, to the point of enslaving them or execution.

So whilst we say we've got rid of these terrible governments and have sent support to do so, the support (if any) we are sending to get rid of what has replaced it which is in almost all cases far worse than what was ousted is much less. So who is really the oppressor of the developing world?

The US govt??

 

[Pie eyed]

So he can whiteant the Kurds?

We should send him to work with ISIL. They'll be gone inside of 2 years.

Abbot will be free to go over soon enough.

 

[madmug]

The problem I've always had with the deposing of Middle Eastern/North African governments is that we have never known what we will be getting that replaces them and it has now been shown without exception that the new governments are worse than the old ones.

An excellent post.

I've always had difficulty trying to rationalise why the US have done what they did, in collusion with Israel. Destablising the region seems to be the deliberate aim of the right wing US/Israel forces, & indeed Australia as well. Its the only reason I can see for the systematic destruction of the previous regimes in the ME countries in the way they have gone about things.

If its the case that 'United they stand, Divided they fall', then clearly keeping those nations in turmoil will keep them divided & weak. The death, destruction & misery matters not to the US/Israel coalition. Its become clear that Israel is not interested in any sort of two state solution, or any kind of settlement. Might is right seems to be their policy. Also expansion & consolidation of the 'borders' & townships of Israel itself.

Israel is making increasing noises in Europe regards encouraging Jewish people to move to Israel. IMO that is amajor reason for the current situation.

I would appreciate your thoughts on that.

 

[holybobafett]

nah, this guy will turn up like Warren Rodwell who is kidnapped in the Philippines and on the front page of Soldier of Fortune

Blackcat : You seem to really have it in for this guy Warren Rodwell. Are you conclusively saying that he was or is a " A SOLDIER OF FORTUNE " ? An unlawful mercenary soldier ?

THE FACTS :

Rodwell was released almost two years ago, and his biography " 472 Days Captive of The Abu Sayyaf - The Survival of Australian Warren Rodwell " by Dr Bob East (independent researcher) was published by Cambridge Scholars Publishing, United Kingdom ( 2015 ). http://www.cambridgescholars.com/472-days-captive-of-the-abu-sayyaf

Of course, you may well ask what would a bunch of professors and academics know compared to your own ever-changing profile face on bigfooty forum.





HERE ARE THE REVIEWS SO FAR :

“In the current international environment when so many aid workers, journalists, business people and travellers risk capture, Bob East’s empathetic and detailed account of Warren Rodwell’s hostage survival is a very timely publication that will attract a wide readership. Those who have read the account of Australian Nigel Brennan’s experience of 15 months in captivity in Somalia will find the story of Rodwell’s ordeal similarly instructive – and inspiring.”

—Richard Gehrmann, Senior Lecturer, School of Arts and Communication, University of Southern Queensland, Australia

_____________________________

“Bob East’s 472 Days Captive of the Abu Sayyaf: The Survival of Australian Warren Rodwell is a well-researched and well-documented—but easy to read—account of this protracted kidnap-for-ransom in the southern Philippines. It is based on East’s exclusive access to Rodwell. I recommend it as an important addition to any strategic analyst’s library.”

—Clive Williams MG, Adjunct Professor, Centre for Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism, Macquarie University

_____________________________

“On 5 December 2011, Warren Rodwell was kidnapped from his adopted home in Ipil, Zamboanga province in the southern Philippines by the notorious Abu Sayyaf Group. Rodwell survived 15 months as a captive – a rare feat given the organisation’s reputation for beheading captives whose ransom is not quickly paid. This is the story of Rodwell’s ordeal, and how he survived against the odds.”

—Dr Damien Kingsbury, Professor of Asian Political and Security Studies, Deakin University, Australia

_____________________________

“Warren Rodwell's story is one of modern day survival. Kidnapped by Islamic extremists while living in the Philippines, Warren survived for 15 months in captivity being moved from location to location. How he maintained his sanity let alone his life is an incredible feat of courage, guts and determination. Warren’s story proves that where there is life there is definitely hope. A true inspiration.”

—David Richardson, Senior Journalist, 7 News Investigations and Features, Australia

_____________________________


A video clip song has just been released ...





SITUATION NOT NORMAL Song http://youtu.be/d3dP4uwWhUU based on a true story about a kidnap for ransom. Lyrics by Warren Rodwell & Peter Brideoake Music & vocals by Mark Dumol ( a.k.a. Nissimac Eternal ) Recorded at FreedomYO! Records, Manila Philippines

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[blackcat]

Blackcat : You seem to really have it in for this guy Warren Rodwell. Are you conclusively saying that he was

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gotta go to philippines to find a wife. gringos have much cache in asia

 

[holybobafett]

"Blackcat: You seem to really have it in for this guy Warren Rodwell. Are you conclusively saying that he" was

"gotta go to philippines to find a wife. gringos have much cache in asia"

Gotcha, cobber



Bloke lives and works in Asia
for ten years, so that makes
him a soldier of fortune.

Barrington Bradman Bing McKenzie salutes you

 

[blackcat]

Gotcha, cobber

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Bloke lives and works in Asia
for ten years, so that makes
him a soldier of fortune.

Barrington Bradman Bing McKenzie salutes you

did Rodwell go to Syria?

 

[holybobafett]

did Rodwell go to Syria?

Is that rhetorical, blackcat?

(Click to enlarge)

If you possess inside knowledge of clandestine activities by this infidel, then perhaps
in the sake of national security, YOU should promptly pass such intelligence on to any
of the Australian government bodies involved in the multi-agency kidnapping taskforce
set up to assist the efforts by Philippine authorities.

• Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade
• Australian Federal Police
• Australian Defence Force

http://foreignminister.gov.au/releases/2013/bc_mr_130323.html

• Australian Security Intelligence Organisation
• 

Australian National Security Hotline 1800 1234 00

http://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Listedterroristorganisations/Pages/AbuSayyafGroup.aspx

All of these blighters had over 15 months to check Rodwell's background. When released, they shovelled Easter eggs down his throat, and politely escorted him back to Australia without laying any charges. Two years later ... are they still monitoring his movements, his contacts, his connections via telephone and internet?

 

[Pie eyed]

So he can whiteant the Kurds?

We should send him to work with ISIL. They'll be gone inside of 2 years.

Right about now Tony Abbot is looking like a human weapon of Mass destruction.
Send him.
It achieves two worthwhile purposes...

 

[medusala]

HERE ARE THE REVIEWS SO FAR :

A video clip song has just been released ...

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Trawling for sales on FigBooty.

#optimism

 

[holybobafett]

Trawling for sales on FigBooty.

#optimism

The book is available for nicks / zilch / nothing at the National Library of Australia, champ
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/192663882?q=warren+rodwell&c=book&versionId=210829345

Or check at your nearest university library. If all else fails, there's a FREE extract available online at Cambridge Scholars Publishing http://www.cambridgescholars.com/472-days-captive-of-the-abu-sayyaf

Otherwise, humbly ask blackcat to lend you his copy, as Individuals have the right to request access to documents from Australian Government ministers and most agencies under the Freedom of Information Act 1982 ( FOI Act).

#auspol #FOIA #gratis

 

[blackcat]

Blackcat : You seem to really have it in for this guy Warren Rodwell. Are you conclusively saying that he was or is a " A SOLDIER OF FORTUNE " ? An unlawful mercenary soldier ?

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Bob East is a quality academic and author.

you should see his wikipedia page HolyBobafett holybobafett

its like, he almost contributed to his own Wikipedia page. It never ends well when you contrive your own wikipedia page, like Hamish McLachlan and Lord Rompingwins, it never ends well. When will these people who do their own wikipedia page, not understand, that you can have you own webpage, just pay an ISP to host it. or whatever acronym they are called, internet service provider.

 

[blackcat]

Bob, some advice. you are struggling with these memes thingies. just leave it to the kids okay? take it as professional advice, for nix.

you dont even know how to play curling. its like, you play curling like Alan Jones plays glory holes in hyde park. #FAIL

 

[blackcat]

wrong star wars character avatar

 

[holybobafett]

Bob, some advice. you are struggling with these memes thingies. just leave it to the kids okay? take it as professional advice, for nix.

you dont even know how to play curling. its like, you play curling like Alan Jones plays glory holes in hyde park. #FAIL

Well, gag me with a spoon. Blackcat has returned with a vengeance (three posts in rapid succession) from his hiatus, while someone else responded on his behalf during a rather conspicuous absence. Seems the dear chap didn't catch the double entendre with respect to "nicks". It's British slang, but has nought to do with pocket billiards nor hanging around inner city public conveniences like a drooling stud.



Champion reference to the younger brother of Gillon McLachlan , Chief Executive Officer of the AFL. Any chance they are Adelaide supporters?

 

[evo]

for future reference blackcat posts on "figbooty", the parallel universe. Some of it leaks across.

#largehardoncollider

 

[blackcat]

Champion reference to the younger brother of Gillon McLachlan , Chief Executive Officer of the AFL. Any chance they are Adelaide supporters?

St Kilda Gillon
Romping Wins is Geelong

 

[holybobafett]

St Kilda Gillon
Romping Wins is Geelong

Good to see someone with their nose close to the ground with celebrities.



BTW ... Anyone heard the rumour that Australian kidnap survivor Warren Rodwell has married again BUT this time in Afghanistan? It seems this middle aged dude divorced his Filipino bride after he was released, and now knows the difference between a hijab, niqab and burka. If you have ever been to Afghanistan you would have noticed that the majority of them are light skinned and Persian. Senor Rodwell was quoted in 2013 as saying that he was thinking Caucasian next time round.

#loveisintheair

 

[holybobafett]

You beaut fair dinkum Aussie blokes need not go to Syria for a piece of the old halal flavour because now they can join for free (nix) to meet veiled cuties online at Muslima.com . Why settle for only one pair of exotic eyelashes?




Up to four babes is okay with officialdom at the other end so long as you answer the following questions (in random order) and pay the appropriate departure tax :

Q. How does a Muslim close the door?
A: Islams it.

Q: Did you hear about the Catholic Iraqi?
A: He was a Shite Muslim.

Q: How do you play Taliban bingo?
A: B-52...F-16...B-1...

Q: What do you call a drunken Muslim?
A: Mohammered.

Q: What do you call an evil Muslim?
A: Mu Ha Ha Ha Med.

Q: How did you get out of Iraq?
A: Iran

Q: What do you call a Muslim on a toilet?
A: Islamic Relief.

Q: What did the Muslim train conductor say?
A: Allah board.

Q: "What do you call a Muslim shrink?
A: A terrorpist."

Q: What is Al Qaida now learning after Osama Bin Laden's death?
A: Don't put your contact info on the Playstation Network!

Q: Why doesn't Gaddafi go out drinking?
A: Why should he when he can get bombed at home?

Q: What do you call a Muslim who loves to shop?
A: Abaya.

Q: Why does Iraq smell so bad?
A: Because they have a lot of gas.

Q: What do Muslim men do during foreplay?
A: Tickle the goat under the chin.

Q: What do you call a Muslim taking a bath?
A: Ali Lujah!

Q: What do you call a Muslim woman with an opinion?
A: Anything you want she's already been stoned to death.

Q: What do you call a Muslim alcoholic?
A: Allah Vabeer

Q: What do you call a terrorist attack in the Middle East?
A: a Selfie!

Q: What do you call a bad Muslim eye doctor?
A: Asif Eyecare

 

[holybobafett]

Was that a squeal or a squeak?

WHAT ABOUT THE WHITE GUY?


When will a candlelight vigil be held for former Tamworth man Warren Rodwell? It seems he has indeed been FORGOTTEN.

A government media blackout was enforced during his captivity. The kidnapping victim said he was a 'little bitter' this year that other Australians trapped overseas have obtained considerable attention, including Kalynda Davis, the Bali Nine drug smugglers and journalist Peter Greste. 'I got no attention because I wasn't female and I wasn't a convicted drug smuggler and I wasn't a recognised person in society - just one of these ordinary people.'

ASIO has officially declared (ISIL and Al Qaeda-linked) Abu Sayyaf as a terrorist organisation. A spokeswoman for the Attorney-General's Department said it does not comment on individual cases relating to the Australian Victims of Terrorism Overseas Payment (AVTOP).

The prime minister's office was approached for comment

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-t-OFFICIALLY-terror-event.html#ixzz3X0ULz3Pv

 

[CountryRace]

Great posting style

 

[kfc1]

This thread is strange.

 

[holybobafett]

This thread is strange.

How wonderful is the affair of the believer, for his affairs are all good, and this applies to no one but the believer. If something good happens to him, he is thankful for it and that is good for him. If something bad happens to him, he bears it with patience and that is good for him.

 

[kfc1]

Thread is still strange.

 

[holybobafett]

Thread is still strange.

There's a series of doodles from THE Chris Brake Show that are totally team strange.
http://chrisbrakeshow.com/2015/04/1...of-the-microphone-meets-warren-rodwell-cb082/