Mega Thread Anti doping Tribunal Hearings - Verdict to be delivered March 31st, 2pm, Docklands. Closed hearing

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jobes last attempt at a players revolt was a major success wasnt it?

afl could deregrester the players for bringing game into disrepute

Players refusing to play would be a rather big deal...No need to deregister them though...Breach of contract, contracts terminated.
 
Players refusing to play would be a rather big deal...No need to deregister them though...Breach of contract, contracts terminated.

Breach of contract for refusing an override by the commission that's dubious under the WADA code so that it may then cause WADA/ASASA to challenge the length of suspension should it be accepted.

Lawyers be loving that!
 

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The Tribunal has ruled Charter and Alavi's evidence and transcripts admissable.

Massive failures by The Australian, The Herald Sun and The Age who all told us with surety that ASADA's case was all but done and dusted without Charter and Alavi appearing in person.

Though, lesser weight will be applied to it as they refused to sign an affidavit or be cross examined.
 
On the Hearldsun site

And players refusing to play NAB unless AFL guarantees backdating.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...anti-doping-bans/story-fni5f6kv-1227201050379

Think players are starting to think they screwed putting them together...

"ESSENDON players will refuse to run out for NAB Challenge games unless the AFL guarantees to backdate any anti-doping suspensions to last September. "

The back-dating can only back as far as November, to when the players were entered on to the Register of Findings?
 
It is understood evidence from biochemist Shane Charter and compounding chemist Nima Alavi has been ruled admissible by the AFL tribunal this week — but it is expected be given less weight because the pair has refused to appear and could not be cross-examined.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/es...anti-doping-bans/story-fndv8gad-1227201050379


The evidence has been deemed admissable.....the rest is wishful thinking by Robbo and Baker.

For all anyone knows the tribunal members may have heard and read the evidence and be thinking "these blokes are as guilty as sin"...just as Downes, Young and Holmes did.

Robbo and Baker are not reporting that it has been decided the evidence will be given less weight....they are just pissing into the wind as usual.
 
"ESSENDON players will refuse to run out for NAB Challenge games unless the AFL guarantees to backdate any anti-doping suspensions to last September. "

The back-dating can only back as far as November, to when the players were entered on to the Register of Findings?

If the play NAB under the WADA code should be backdated to last game played if they take part. An AFL override is rather dubious so they want to ensure can be backdated to nov 17 if they play.
 

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If the play NAB under the WADA code should be backdated to last game played if they take part. An AFL override is rather dubious so they want to ensure can be backdated to nov 17 if they play.

backdated to the last game played isnt how it works. Its almost certainly backdated to the date of the issuing of Infraction Notices - October 17th.
 
The Tribunal has ruled Charter and Alavi's evidence and transcripts admissable.

Massive failures by The Australian, The Herald Sun and The Age who all told us with surety that ASADA's case was all but done and dusted without Charter and Alavi appearing in person.
What about Charter's subsequent recording with the players' lawyers? I assume that got in.
 
Chip Le Grand @Melbchief · 9h9 hours ago
2/2 Admissibility questions were raised at the start of the hearing but David Jones decided to deal with them at the end. Just how he rolls.

Hmm makes sense if true.

Clearly Chip still has information on the inside, but not leaking it?

Last 2 weeks, seems like his been back-pedalling a bit. Haven't seen the AFLPA/Chip/Robbo come out and say that ASADA's case is weak yet?

From what we've seen over the last 24hours, seems like Essendon may be in a lot of trouble
 
backdated to the last game played isnt how it works. Its almost certainly backdated to the date of the issuing of Infraction Notices - October 17th.

You saying even if they play in the NAB challenge they will still get back dated?

My understanding once they play a game they reset the provisional suspension meaning it can only be back dated until when the last game they played, if they don't play in the NAB challenge its backdated to the issuing of the infraction notice in Nov.
 
My understanding once they play a game they reset the provisional suspension meaning it can only be back dated until when the last game they played, if they don't play in the NAB challenge its backdated to the issuing of the infraction notice in Nov.

Not sure if that's the case. I cited an example from Cycling earlier on, where a cyclist resumed racing during a lengthy process. Eventually, the time (days) he was available for racing was added to his penalty, but the penalty still started from when he tested positive/started provisional suspension.

So, if that applied here, the time the players were "back in competition" (NAB Cup), would be added to any penalty - presumably with a start date from November 14, as discussed.
 
1/ The evidence has been deemed admissable.....the rest is wishful thinking by Robbo and Baker.

2/ Robbo and Baker are not reporting that it has been decided the evidence will be given less weight....they are just pissing into the wind as usual.

Ah so TW believes Robo & Baker re point 1

But TW doesn't believe Robo & Baker re point 2

So TW is a selective Robbo & Baker wind pisser.
 
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