No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

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Wonder if Chip is enjoying his viewing of today's proceedings !

Seems to be the only journalist in Australia who is actually doing any real reporting on the matter and not simply making headlines for the sake of getting clicks.

The Walkley should of been awarded to him and not to that witch who gets spoon fed information to publish.
 
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What continually makes me laugh is the fact that Bruce Francis jumps on here, has researched everything impeccably, provided a VERY detailed chronologically ordered account of events, corroborated(my assumption), through multiple sources, yet this is STILL not enough to get the foamers to question what they've been told, let alone change their minds. They've simply got 'the vibe', yet cold hard facts, from the sources themselves, are immediately met with derision and countered with nothing more than an outsiders point of view, emotion and their opinions.

Kind of exactly what we've been accused of doing all this time.

Delicious, delicious irony.

They only want to be told what they want to hear. We all know that.
 
The Australian Football League Anti-Doping Tribunal continued the hearing today relating to the cases of past and present Essendon Football Club players and a former employee of the Essendon Football Club who have been issued with Infraction Notices.

The Tribunal today heard an application by the legal representative of the Essendon Football Club for him to be present and represent the Essendon Football Club in the proceeding. He made submissions to the Tribunal in support of his application. Submissions were made by other parties. On considering the various submissions and having regard to the ruling of December 8 that the hearing be private, the application on behalf of the Essendon Football Club to be represented at the proceedings was denied.

Mr Holmes QC continued opening submissions on behalf of ASADA based on, among other things, various text messages, emails and transcripts produced as part of the investigation.

Mr Holmes QC continues to detail the evidence in the ASADA case against the 34 players and the support person.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-12-18/afl-statement-antidoping-tribunal
 

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We've been through a lot. Now that Carlton and Gold Coast have been mentioned, does that mean we are cleared, but the investigation continues. We all wanted 'the books open' on other clubs.
Smells like we're safe, but SALADA want to remain...oh well, bad luck Essendon, you were our first target?
Now we proceed with pursuing others???
Unless, Government intervenes and make this all go away.
 
James Hird appeal verdict could derail ASADA case against Essendon 34
  • Michael Warner
  • Herald Sun
  • December 18, 2014 8:20PM
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James Hird leaves Federal Court after his appeal in November. Picture: Mark Stewart Source: Mark Stewart / News Corp Australia

A VERDICT in James Hird's Federal Court appeal against ASADA could be handed down next week.

It is understood the three Federal Court judges presiding over the Hird appeal are keen to deliver their judgment before Christmas, having already granted an expedited hearing.

A decision in favour of Hird could stop ASADA's pursuit of 34 current and former Essendon players in its tracks.

ASADA v ESSENDON: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

The AFL anti-doping tribunal convened again on Thursday where Essendon's new in-house lawyer, Michael Abrahams, failed in an application “to be present and represent” the club during the three-week hearing.



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Macca’s take on the Hird appeal.Source: Supplied



The Bombers are not a party to the proceedings but wanted access to the climax of footy's two-year doping scandal.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...inst-essendon-34/story-e6frf3e3-1227161147140
 
ASADA trying to trap me, says pharmacist Nima Alavi
CHIP LE GRAND THE AUSTRALIAN DECEMBER 19, 2014 12:00AM
A KEY figure in the AFL doping case has accused the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority of trying to “trap’’ him into supporting a central element of its case against 34 footballers — that he provided a banned Thymosin peptide to Essendon sports scientist Stephen Dank.

ASADA counsel Malcolm Holmes, in opening the case against Mr Dank and 34 current and former Essendon players, has told an AFL tribunal that pharmacist Nima Alavi told investigators he believed a Thymosin peptide he supplied to Dank in January 2012 was Thymosin Beta-4.

Mr Alavi yesterday told The Australian this was not true. “I felt as though they were trying to trap me into saying that it was Thymosin Beta-4, even though I made it very clear, repeatedly, that I didn’t know what it was,’’ he said.

The Australian has previously revealed Mr Alavi told ASADA he compounded a Thymosin peptide from materials procured by drug importer Shane Charter and supplied them in clear, unmarked vials to Mr Dank to have them tested at a Melbourne lab.

Mr Alavi last month baulked at signing a 30-page affidavit prepared by ASADA when he discovered it was littered with references to Thymosin Beta-4, as well as other errors.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...acist-nima-alavi/story-fnca0u4y-1227161186397
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...acist-nima-alavi/story-fnca0u4y-1227161186397
 

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It will carry as much weight as a cherry picked interview transcript from ASADA. If ASADA are relying on a Dank interview with the Age where he actually retracted the part they want pertaining to TB4, our witnesses can speak to the tribunal via the media with the same credibility. It will muddy the waters at least and highlight the fact that this kangaroo court tribunal that is free from evidentiary restrictions is a ******* farce for something so complicated and serious.
 

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Alavi, Charters, Dank and Robinson have all said they same thing for 22 months — they don't believe anything banned or unsafe was administered.

ASADA need to find some real evidence of they are going to prove everyone is lying and covering up for each other
 

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There appears to have been great pressure excreted on ASADA to pursue Essendon even though they had very little evidence and under normal circumstances would have quit.

ASADA's desperate attempt since at assembling something that might even look like a case is becoming more and more obvious.
 
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There appears to have been great pressure excreted on ASADA to pursue Essendon even though they had very little evidence and under normal circumstances would have quit.

ASADA's desperate attempt since at assembling something that might even look like a case is becoming more and more obvious.

'Excreted'. Such an appropriate term when referring to anything ASADA.

Bravo.


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Is tampering with evidence allowed?

When rules of evidence don't apply, sure why not? It's not like ASADA are required to act like model litigants in all this.


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And another update:






Im sure Peter Jess, Nat Rat and the rest of the players who will be 'lining up out the door" to sue the AFL will be very interested to read that, in a workplace dispute the player's employer, the AFL, is present.

The AFL tribunal itself decided the club representation was not needed.

Very good to know.
 

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Well that is interesting but hardly helpful if Alavi will not testify on behalf of the players?

Charter gave the club 50 odd pages didnt he? Im sure Alavi will give the club/players some sort of statement if he was prepared for chip to go on the record with it.

We need to get this into a real court - Id start the process now and put the pressure right on the tribunal that their actions are going to put the microscope. Surely they cant accept any of this 'evidence'.
 

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Is tampering with evidence allowed?

This thing reeks more and more of McDevitt having been pushed into the ASADA investigation in the 11th hour after they had already been advised to abandon it, and told in no uncertain terms to get a guilty verdict by stealth, or whatever it took.

McDevitt & Co then appear to have applied old school cop methods like interviewing witnesses for as long as they could keep them there in search of that one statement they could use - out of context if necessary - to support their case. Not content with that, McDevitt & Co then appear to have had the gall to call witnesses back in afterward and put doctored accounts of their testimony in front of them in the hope they would sign them without proof reading them first.

This thing is no longer about justice. It hasn't been for a long time. It is about ASADA, led by McDevitt, desperately seeking a guilty verdict no matter what it takes, or what dubious methods need to be applied in the process.

**** off McDevitt!

**** off ASADA!
 
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