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with the Culmination of the BCS Bowl and the College Football Season , what are the chances of Brad Wing and Jesse Williams being taken in the NFL Draft Mid Year, Have Either even commited to entering this years class and given they are taken (admittedly both Later) who do u believe will be the team(s) that selects them and where about do u think they will be called out.

also is there any other noteworthy Australians playing over in the College System that have had little to acknowledgement due to a smaller school or lesser team played for ??
 
Jesse Williams was the 3rd string Nose Tackle

Brad Wing was a freshman

Wait till 2015 for Wing (and he's probably a 5th round talent)
Williams came out of a JC last year, so could be 1-2 years away from a draft. I hear he's highly rated, but not fully there upstairs.

Scott Harding (ex-Lions, ex-Power) is at Hawai'i, but isn't really that good (he's a wide out)
 

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how early into ur college career can u nominate for the draft as in the case of Wing i have friends and relatives in the states sayin that he is the Talk of the Town @ LSU, they reckon he is an Uncanny Talent, if he were to be in it this year he would no doubt be the First Punter Taken.

in the Case of Williams he looks like an Absolute beast, not big on the Tackle #'s but looks like he may have the tools to be one of those intimidating DT (although Espn and NCAA websites have him as DE) as a poor man Ndamukong Suh (by no means comparing the 2 though)
 

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how early into ur college career can u nominate for the draft as in the case of Wing i have friends and relatives in the states sayin that he is the Talk of the Town @ LSU, they reckon he is an Uncanny Talent, if he were to be in it this year he would no doubt be the First Punter Taken.

in the Case of Williams he looks like an Absolute beast, not big on the Tackle #'s but looks like he may have the tools to be one of those intimidating DT (although Espn and NCAA websites have him as DE) as a poor man Ndamukong Suh (by no means comparing the 2 though)

you can enter the draft after your 3rd year, so either after your junior year or sophomore year if you redshirted. not sure if Wing redshirted his freshman year. as a punter he will probably stay all four years, i doubt their stock changes much for that position. and he is a bit of a cult hero at LSU so he'll probably stay until he graduates.

don't know a lot about Williams but he is pretty highly rated. will be interesting to see how he goes next year with Bama losing a lot of players on the defensive side of the ball.
 
That's a great effort. All those athletic guys returning punts and he gets All American. Very surprised. Well done.
Think about it, 120 teams, how many would be sophmores, juniors or seniors? Sammy Watkins is up there as a wide out which must take him out of the kick return role - Just shows that there were no other freshman in the running that wern't in at a better position.

Sott Harding's stats
6 catches for 67 yards (long of 36)
19 punt returns at 7.4 yards (long of 24)
12 kick returns at 21.1 yards (long of 37)

really worthy of making the all-freshman team as a punt returner?
 
Think about it, 120 teams, how many would be sophmores, juniors or seniors? Sammy Watkins is up there as a wide out which must take him out of the kick return role - Just shows that there were no other freshman in the running that wern't in at a better position.

Sott Harding's stats
6 catches for 67 yards (long of 36)
19 punt returns at 7.4 yards (long of 24)
12 kick returns at 21.1 yards (long of 37)

really worthy of making the all-freshman team as a punt returner?

Yeah good point, not exactly great stats.
 
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Jesse Williams was the 3rd string Nose Tackle

Starting 5-tech.

As for if they'll get drafted, not this year.

As pointed out, Wing isnt eligible for a few years and probably wont go into the draft until after his senior season.

Jesse Williams is highly rated and could well be drafted by the end of the 3rd round next year if he continues improving.
 

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Drd, we are both right.

5-tech isn't really attributed to a scheme (4-3 or 3-4). Techniques are techniques that go either way. There are different types of 3-4 (phillips, bullough-fairbanks, and lebeau). Some 5-techs are 2 gap, some 1 gap, depending on the scheme. That makes them entirely different types of 5-tech Ends.

4-3 Ends can be anything from 5 7 or 9 tech, depending on scheme too.

DB has a point too tho, Crimson Tide lists him as a 0-tech Tackle, but also lists him as a DE.
 
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Hmmmmm to trust drd23, or to trust the official Alabama depth chart :confused:

It says that? :confused: They need to update it then

I've watched a few of their games and he has been starting.

Plus the depth chart on the Crimson Tide Rivals site and this other Bama site have the same starting line-ups that I've seen when watching them.

The Rivals.com depth chart does have him listed as the 3rd string NT as well tbf to you though
 
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Drd, we are both right.

I know we are. However, 5-tech is more frequently used to refer to a 3-4 DE, particularly in scouting reports for college prospects

5-tech isn't really attributed to a scheme (4-3 or 3-4). Techniques are techniques that go either way. There are different types of 3-4 (phillips, bullough-fairbanks, and lebeau). Some 5-techs are 2 gap, some 1 gap, depending on the scheme. That makes them entirely different types of 5-tech Ends.

4-3 Ends can be anything from 5 7 or 9 tech, depending on scheme too

All correct. If we want to be pedantic :)p), Williams is primarily a 2-gap 3-4 LDE for Alabama
 
3 Aussies being recruited at the moment.
Utah's going hard for Tyson Kruse, from the AIS
Utah State's going hard for Daniel Cardona, also from the AIS
UTEP's going for Dean Crozier, he's from Adelaide, infact, he goes to school about 2 suburbs away from me. I drive past it going into town.

All are punters.
 

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I am shocked to see that there is not a thread on Jesse Williams when he could be the first Aussie ever to be drafted in the first round.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0a...n-jesse-williams-will-be-stars-of-nfl-combine
9) Alabama DT Jesse Williams

Williams is yet another prospect with an international background. He grew up in Brisbane, Australia, before attending Arizona Western College to play football. The work he did in the weight room after arriving at the University of Alabama is the stuff of legend. He has reportedly posted a 600-pound bench press. That's not a typo. He has a real shot at breaking the bench-press record at the combine and should also run under 5.0.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824786
Analysis
STRENGTHS: Has a naturally wide frame with relatively short limbs, giving him the low center of gravity conducive to holding up at the point of attack.
Possesses unbelievable weight-room strength (600 pound bench press) that translates well onto the football field due to his use of leverage and surprisingly good technique considering the fact that he's a relative neophyte who only took up the game at age 15 and has played just four seasons of football in the United States.
Has improved his use of hands over his two seasons at Alabama and has developed into a cognitive defender capable of reading the action, shedding the block with heavy, active hands and making the tackle in the hole.
Has the length to play outside as a five-technique defensive end, a role in which he initially played during his junior season with the Tide before sliding inside to the nose as a senior. Good phone-booth quickness and plays hard, competing to the whistle.
Also served as Alabama's short-yardage fullback in 2012, a testament to his power and aggression. An ascending talent with passion and work ethic to improve.

WEAKNESSES: Bit of a one-trick pony as Williams does not possess the quickness or the agility to collapse the pocket as a pass rusher. Must do a better job of protecting his knees as he is susceptible to cut blocks. Too often raises his pad level at the snap, negating some of his power and making him all the more vulnerable to cuts, as he possesses only moderate flexibility.
Has to do a better job of getting his hands up in passing lanes as he rarely gets home as a pass rusher (just three passes broken up in 25 career starts at Alabama).
Plays with good effort but lacks lateral agility and struggles to knock down ballcarriers with any room to maneuver.
COMPARES TO: Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots -- Like the Patriots' run-stuffing nose guard, Williams isn't going to pressure the quarterback often but his size and strength will make him a force in the middle.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/jesse-williams?id=2539192

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Strengths

Brute nose tackle (though he plays some five-technique) with a very good motor. Solid two-gap player who keeps his eyes in the backfield to find the ball. Plays with leverage, gets under the pads of his man to hold the line or push him into the backfield. Has enough quickness and power off the snap to pop off his blocker and grab backs heading outside or coming through the middle. Uses quick hands to swipe aside lunging blockers to penetrate into the backfield. Stays upright against cut blocks and gives second effort to get up when on the ground. Gets low with power in short-yardage situations. Also hustles to the sideline to chase scrambling quarterbacks and stretch plays when fresh. Pushes the pocket a bit as a pass rusher, and will work past lesser blockers’ shoulders into the backfield. Cleans up piles, sending linebackers flying.
Weaknesses

Not an exceptional athlete, relies on hustle and strength to make plays. Lacks the quickness and agility to be a regular factor in pass rush or corral quicker ballcarriers in space. Thick in the middle and a bit thinner in the legs; plays top-heavy, ends up on the ground too often. Gets caught up on blocks at times inside, lacking hand and foot quickness to disengage to make the play.
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Bottom Line

This Australia native came through the junior college ranks before starting all 13 games for the 2011 BCS champions at five-technique and another 13 games at nose tackle in 2012. Williams uses his size, consistent motor and supreme toughness to drain his opponents at the point of attack. His best NFL position is likely at nose tackle, but Williams has enough athleticism to play multiple spots for a 3-4 team at the next level.
 
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