Autopsy Best 22 for 2015

[rodney hoo]

I'm hoping Tom Sheridan gets more games, is an excellent by foot & a good tank. Thought he did well in his afl games last year, kick a good goal against the bombers @ a crucial time as well.

 

[Unique Name]

I'm hoping Tom Sheridan gets more games, is an excellent by foot & a good tank. Thought he did well in his afl games last year, kick a good goal against the bombers @ a crucial time as well.

Yep,
I foolishly thought Crozier/Sheridan were going to be duds. Crozier has proven me wrong, Hopefully 2015 is the year Sheridan shows me how terrible I would be as a list manager.

 

[theGav56]

I'm hoping Tom Sheridan gets more games, is an excellent by foot & a good tank. Thought he did well in his afl games last year, kick a good goal against the bombers @ a crucial time as well.

What do you think he needs to do to get more games?

 

[rodney hoo]

What do you think he needs to do to get more games?

Work on his speed & defensive transiion. Imo has got strong all round game & bit speed could grab a wing position. Imo we need more consistentcy get it in to our forward line & he could provide this.

 

[couldhavebeen]

Our midfield needs to improve its disposal .
Barlow , D Pearce and Fyfe need to lift their % and hit more targets .
I would play Duffield or Walters on a wing as the outside player to deliver the ball to leading forwards .
Before his delisting this is the job I would have used Simpson for but with him gone we need to find someone else to do that job , Walters would be my first choice because of his pace .
Hill is not a midfielder,he's the classic modern HBF . His pace , elusiveness and his reading of the play make him the perfect weapon as a rebounding defender .
The boys that I want to see make a statement for selection this year are Alex Pearce ,Grey , Ballard and Tanner Smith and Tom Vanddeleur.
The boys that need to take their game to a higher level this year are Max Duffy ,Matt Taberner , Hayden Crozier , Tom Sheridan and Nick Suban .

The walking wounded from last year Griffin , Clarke , Morabito ,Sylvia ,Clancee Pearce , De Boer , Mayne , Mcpharlin , Ibbotson , Grey and Johnson need to be able to have a full preseason under their belt for us to be challenging for a top 2 position IMHO .
If any of these players can't get through a full preseason then they should be forced to play for Peel until they have ticked all the boxes .

In Sylvia's case if he doesn't reach the required fitness and performance levels I would sack him straight away . I would get him as far away from young guys as fast as possible . This would send a message to the young guys that if your attitude and effort is not up to AFL standard your out of here .

 

[sherrif]

The argument against Spurr seems very odd when Ibbotson is the guy you've replaced him with, one of the worst players at defending small forwards ever.

Actually, Ibbo plays as a loose defender, who's job it is to be off his man and intercepting marks as regularly, which he is outstanding at. In my opinion it is an absolute load of crap that Ibbo is terrible at defending small forwards as it is not his role so how could you possibly judge him. For the record I hyave said in other threads that I would play Gu and Sutcliffe in shutdown roles rather than Spurr. Sutcliffe did get exposed by Gray in the second half of the final, but at least he has the athletic attributes to play the shut down role. This fact combined with what I see as an outstanding work ethic means I would much prefer him playing on the Breust's or Wingard's of the competition. I also think Gu could play a shutdown role if required because I rate his ability in the air and his obvious running capacity as skills which would allow him to play a shut down role in the forward line effectively.

I think it is exceptionally obvious that Spurr is too slow to play on elite forwards after watching the three games we played against Port last season, which is why I think he will be borderline best 22 in 2015.

 

[mike123]

FB: Michael Johnson ~ Zac Dawson ~ Garrick Ibbotson
HB: Cameron Sutcliffe ~ Luke Mcpharlin ~ Paul Duffield

C: Danyle Pearce ~ David Mundy ~ Stephen Hill

HF: Lachie Neale ~ Mathew Taberner ~ Hayden Ballantyne
FF: Michael Walters ~ Mathew Pavlich ~ Zac Clarke

R: Aaron Sandilands ~ Michael Barlow ~ Nat Fyfe

I/C: Lee Spurr ~ Tendai Mzungu ~ Chris Mayne ~ Anthony Morabito

 

[calaisking]

Will be very interesting to see wether Ross picks Crowley round 1. Ryan's been a trooper for us but I don't think he had anywhere near a good enough season this year to suggest he's a walk in best 22

Other then being a great tagger he doesn't offer to much around the ground. A midfield spot could be better used by another player which is tough to say because I love Crowls

Also, I think Lee Spurr will keep his spot and expect Sylvia to improve and make his way into the team

 

[Mr Peabody]

I also think Gu could play a shutdown role if required because I rate his ability in the air and his obvious running capacity as skills which would allow him to play a shut down role in the forward line effectively.

If it wasn't stinging before, Mzungu's couple of dropped marks in the 2nd half of the Port final are featured in footage behind a recent interview where Ross speaks of dropped marks as one example of poor skill execution in the back end of that game. He's normally quite reliable overhead but like many in that game, he had an off night when it counted.

I also prefer Mzungu in his current role streaming back and forward as he has a big tank. Would imagine he'd be in our top bracket of players when measuring km's covered in a game.

 

[mike91]

FB: Michael Johnson ~ Zac Dawson ~ Garrick Ibbotson
HB: Cameron Sutcliffe ~ Luke Mcpharlin ~ Paul Duffield

C: Danyle Pearce ~ David Mundy ~ Stephen Hill

HF: Lachie Neale ~ Mathew Taberner ~ Hayden Ballantyne
FF: Michael Walters ~ Mathew Pavlich ~ Zac Clarke

R: Aaron Sandilands ~ Michael Barlow ~ Nat Fyfe

I/C: Lee Spurr ~ Tendai Mzungu ~ Chris Mayne ~ Anthony Morabito

Pretty good effort, although personally I think Crozier will get games ahead of Morabito. Wasn't there talk the sub rule might be scratched next year? When is a decision being made about that?

 

[WWSD]

B: Garrick Ibbotson, Zac Dawson, Lee Spurr

HB: Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Paul Duffield

C: Stephen Hill, Nathan Fyfe, Tendai Mzungu

HF: Chris Mayne, Matthew Taberner, Ryan Crowley

F: Michael Walters, Mathew Pavlich, Hayden Ballantyne

R: Aaron Sandilands, Michael Barlow, David Mundy

INT: Nick Suban, Cameron Sutcliffe, Lachie Neale, Daniel Pearce

Depth: Moribito, Sylvia, De Boer, Sheridan, Griffin, Crozier, Duffy, Clarke, Silvagni, Hannath, C.Pearce

I still think Fremantle will be a threat in 2015. I don't think they'll slide at all. There's plenty of good players in that line-up who can still have a major say next season. Having players like McPharlin, Johnson and Ibbotson fit will significantly strengthen that back-line, whilst youngsters like Neale, Crozier, Taberner and Sutcliffe will improve with another pre-season under their belt. The return of Michael Walters will give Fremantle that forward pressure that was missing in 2014 and his return could potentially make the Walters/Ballantyne combo a dangerous one next season and perhaps even the best in the competition in that area.

2015 Predictions:

Most improved player: Matthew Taberner
Leading goal kicker: Michael Walters: (57 goals)
Brownlow smoky: Michael Barlow
Potential All-Australian contenders in 2015: Garrick Ibbotson, Nathan Fyfe, Michael Walters, David Mundy, Michael Barlow, Stephen Hill
Fremantle Club Best & Fairest: Michael Walters
Ladder position: 3rd-4th

 

[go_the_dockers]

What do you think he needs to do to get more games?

Build his strength so he can play partly as an inside mid.

Improve his fitness, I wouldn't mind see him play as a tagger for a few games. I think he could do what Langford does for the Hawks.

 

[Mr Peabody]

Build his strength so he can play partly as an inside mid.

Improve his fitness, I wouldn't mind see him play as a tagger for a few games. I think he could do what Langford does for the Hawks.

I would like to hope Sheridan can improve and provide some outside speed and run through the midfield. We've got a number of bustling inside mids already and some developing in the wings. These need to be complimented with some additional run and carry around the ball which is what I expect we'll be looking to draft in together with some KP's.

I see what you mean with a Langford style tagger by the way - maybe Sutcliffe has the chops? Has proven that he can play back and man up, has a good turn of speed and a great kick going the other way.

 

[theGav56]

Enjoyed reading your post, and also like reading the other best 22 posts. The following is what excites me;

Depth: Moribito, Sylvia, De Boer, Sheridan, Griffin, Crozier, Duffy, Clarke, Silvagni, Hannath, C.Pearce

There are some decent players there, and it is the kind of list profile that teams going into a season need if they are realistic chances to play finals. Mature depth in multiple areas of the ground.

I would throw in a couple of names who we all will be hoping can demand some gametime in 2015.

Apeness; Big boy, aggressive style of play, power forward. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Hoping for an outstanding pre-season from him followed by some games in 2015.

A Pearce; Mobile defender, decent skills, good fitness base. Shapes as a weapon in the backline. An obvious MJ replacement at some stage.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I would like to hope Sheridan can improve and provide some outside speed and run through the midfield. We've got a number of bustling inside mids already and some developing in the wings. These need to be complimented with some additional run and carry around the ball which is what I expect we'll be looking to draft in together with some KP's..

Doesn't have the pace to be a true outside player, I think he needs to develop his strength so he can play as an inside\outside mid.

Without the inside game he would be too easy to tag out of a game.

 

[enoenoeno]

Doesn't have the pace to be a true outside player, I think he needs to develop his strength so he can play as an inside\outside mid.

Without the inside game he would be too easy to tag out of a game.

Agreed. And a bit of mungrel!

 

[salim malik]

Agreed. And a bit of mungrel!

Enoe's so what ever mungrel is I'm with him

 

[mike123]

Pretty good effort, although personally I think Crozier will get games ahead of Morabito. Wasn't there talk the sub rule might be scratched next year? When is a decision being made about that?

I heard rumours mid year about the sub rule but nothing since.

 

[mattis117]

Here is our 2012 semi final team against Adelaide

B: McPhee Dawson Silvagni
HB: Spurr Johnson Mzungu
C: Ibbotson Crowley De Boer
HF: Hill Mayne Mundy
F: Ballantyne Pavlich Walters
FOLL: Sandilands Fyfe C Pearce
I/C: Barlow Suban Clarke Duffield

Replace McPhee with Sutcliffe, and Neale comes in for someone, and we have a pretty close version of most of our best 22 for 2015. Three seasons down the track, nearly the same team.
To me that is a problem. Can't even say many of these guys are going to be better in 2015 than they were in 2012. We really haven't progressed enough.

There are more than the 2 that you listed that are no longer best 22, including:
Obviously McPhee;
De Boar;
C Pearce; and
Suban.

A strong argument can also be made against Crowley being in the best 22. Are we giving up to much offensively each game, just to stop one opposition player?

We would have turned over a quarter of the starting 22 by the start of next season, from the game you pointed out. I don't see any issues with that at all.

 

[freoextra]

I'm hoping Tom Sheridan gets more games, is an excellent by foot & a good tank. Thought he did well in his afl games last year, kick a good goal against the bombers @ a crucial time as well.

Would also like Sheridan progress and put real pressure on D Pearce for his spot next year. Sheridan is a very good kick to a leading forward and a consistent kick for goal but just can't impose himself on the next level like Pearce can. Hopefully this year!

 

[WWSD]

Enjoyed reading your post, and also like reading the other best 22 posts. The following is what excites me;



There are some decent players there, and it is the kind of list profile that teams going into a season need if they are realistic chances to play finals. Mature depth in multiple areas of the ground.

I would throw in a couple of names who we all will be hoping can demand some gametime in 2015.

Apeness; Big boy, aggressive style of play, power forward. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. Hoping for an outstanding pre-season from him followed by some games in 2015.

A Pearce; Mobile defender, decent skills, good fitness base. Shapes as a weapon in the backline. An obvious MJ replacement at some stage.

I rate Fremantle's list & depth. For example a player like Alex Silvagni is more then capable of filling in for either Dawson or McPharlin, Clarke can take over the number one ruck spot if Sandilands gets rested here and there, another player like Clancee Pearce who in 2012 was averaging close to 20 disposals a match, 5 marks, 4 tackles whilst also kicking 16 goals. He's also another handy utility who can come in and fill a role when needed. I wouldn't be surprised if he got back to that form he displayed a few years ago. Matt De Boer is a good tagger/defensive forward who's done some good lock-down roles over the years and he could come in play an important role if needed. There's obviously some very handy players there outside of the best 22 who can make an impact next year when called upon.

 

[Apenesslike]

We need more midfield rotations for fresh legs, so realistically we need to look at players that are specialist small /mid sized and convert these into the midfield rotation. This means our midfielders also need to show the ability to lock down opponents as defenders so we can release some of our regular defenders into the midfield rotation. If we were able to run 12 players through the midfield rotations we could test the fitness of any team and have substantial depth across roles.

For the team that played Port we had Hill, Barlow, Mundy, Fyfe, Crowley, Mzungu, Neale, Suban and Crozier in the rotation and got found out by a fitter team.

The smaller players not currently being used in the midfield rotations are Ballas (inj in port game), Walters, Duffield, Spurr, Ibbotson, Sutcliffe and Mayne.

The only way we can get value out of any of these players joining the midfield rotation is if their positions can be adequately covered by the midfield rotation, and that they can hold their own in the midfield.

The players that can't rotate through either the midfield or another position need to be considered as depth if we want to rival Hawthorn.

 

[Apenesslike]

The problems I can see is that
1) Where a defence is strong like ours you don't mess with a winning combination, so there is little incentive to experiment with midfielders in lockdown defensive posts. By doing so you run the risk of losing momentum in the middle, and potentially losing games that you should win.

2) Our small forwards are elite, so they can win the game off their own boot if the stay on the field and in the forward line. The means that we need them to stay forward to keep the pressure on the opposition. A couple of the midfielders can effectively rotate forward, however this is only successful if we continue to win possession out of the middle.

Our midfield are mostly rotating through the bench but the interchange caps mean their field time is mostly in the midfield which saw them run out of legs against some top opponents who rest players forward or in defence.

 

[rgauci]

We need more midfield rotations for fresh legs, so realistically we need to look at players that are specialist small /mid sized and convert these into the midfield rotation. This means our midfielders also need to show the ability to lock down opponents as defenders so we can release some of our regular defenders into the midfield rotation. If we were able to run 12 players through the midfield rotations we could test the fitness of any team and have substantial depth across roles.

For the team that played Port we had Hill, Barlow, Mundy, Fyfe, Crowley, Mzungu, Neale, Suban and Crozier in the rotation and got found out by a fitter team.

The smaller players not currently being used in the midfield rotations are Ballas (inj in port game), Walters, Duffield, Spurr, Ibbotson, Sutcliffe and Mayne.

The only way we can get value out of any of these players joining the midfield rotation is if their positions can be adequately covered by the midfield rotation, and that they can hold their own in the midfield.

The players that can't rotate through either the midfield or another position need to be considered as depth if we want to rival Hawthorn.

Absolutely agree, who are Hawks specialist small defenders? They use Birchall on smalls. But Burgoyne and Hodge can play back pocket. Even Mitchell has played off a half back flank.

We play Spurr, Duffield and Sutcliffe. I think one of those 3 will lose their spot in the coming year. I think it'll be Duffield though group think is Spurr will lose his spot.

 

[Apenesslike]

Absolutely agree, who are Hawks specialist small defenders? They use Birchall on smalls. But Burgoyne and Hodge can play back pocket. Even Mitchell has played off a half back flank.

We play Spurr, Duffield and Sutcliffe. I think one of those 3 will lose their spot in the coming year. I think it'll be Duffield though group think is Spurr will lose his spot.

It falls to the midfielders to show who can actually play the back pocket role on rotation. Because we have so many big units the nippy little forwards tend to be a bit agile or draw high tackles. The players they could consider as rotating mids through defence and visa versa would be Neale, Mzungu, Sutcliffe, Hill, CPearce, DPearce and Duffield, with Mayne and Ibbotson for the 3rd tall.

I doubt Spurr could play as a mid, like him to prove me wrong.