Best Ever Top 20 picks

[Moist Biscuit]

1- Nick Riewoldt
That is all

EFA

 

[bergholt]

The most striking thing about this list is how few really good players there have been at each draft pick. In almost thirty drafts (excluding 81 and 82) there's only a handful of A-graders at each pick:

1 11 (Riewoldt, Hodge, Goddard, White, Gardiner, Gaspar, Murphy, Cooney, Deledio, Gibbs, Johnstone)
2 10 (Roughead, Lappin, Primus, Ottens, Cotchin, Hasleby, Rocca, Thomas, Wells, Ball)
3 6 (Judd, Croad, Grant, Griffen, Didak, Martin)
4 5 (Pavlich, Matera, Leppitsch, Lucas, Kennedy)
5 6 (Franklin, Pendlebury, Boak, McVeigh, Smith, Power)
6 1 (Wingard)
7 7 (Selwood, Lewis, Johnson, Mackie, Cameron, Ryder, Hale)
8 5 (Bartel, Corey, Bolton, Heppell, Tarrant)
9 3 (Cornes, Pike, McVeigh)
10 3 (Dangerfield, Brown, McPharlin)
11 3 (Hayes, Glass, Johnson)
12 7 (Wanganeen, Burgoyne, Jones, Rioli, Scott, Frawley)
13 8 (Crawford, Dal Santo, Riewoldt, McKay, Murphy, Talia, Ebert, Stanton)
14 5 (Allan, Holland, Simpson, Birchall, B Smith)
15 3 (Hudghton, Camporeale, Rawlings)
16 5 (Gehrig, Thompson, Yze, Burton, Douglas)
17 3 (Taylor, Kelly, McAdam)
18 5 (Kerr, Colbert, Stevens, Shaw, Rance)
19 7 (Hall, Mundy, Green, Ward, Smith, Davis, Gram)
20 5 (Fyfe, Cornes, Fletcher, Minson, Cummings)

Basically, if you've got a top 20 pick you've got somewhere between a one in five and a one in ten chance of getting a really good player. (Unless you have pick 6 - no wonder the Doggies were so keen to offload it for Boyd.) It's a crap shoot unless you're in the top two or to a lesser extent the top 5.

 

[King_Steele]

And Fraser would run through him like this:

He is God.

 

[Claude Balls]

Surely Nigel Lappin at no. 2...

 

[12Chill]

Peter Matera > Matthew Pavlich
Lance Franklin > Scott Pendlebury
Barry Hall @19

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Peter Matera > Matthew Pavlich
Lance Franklin > Scott Pendlebury
Barry Hall @19

Oh wow.

 

[AFDogs]

Looks like we were very lucky to get Macrae at #6. Considering how little the pick has produced.

 

[12Chill]

Oh wow.

You disagree?

 

[gandaal]

The lesson is:

If you get pick 15 trade it ASAP.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

You disagree?

Yes, as good as matera was, you take the 300 game power forward/fullback/midfielder if you get the choice.

 

[gandaal]

The most striking thing about this list is how few really good players there have been at each draft pick. In almost thirty drafts (excluding 81 and 82) there's only a handful of A-graders at each pick:

1 11 (Riewoldt, Hodge, Goddard, White, Gardiner, Gaspar, Murphy, Cooney, Deledio, Gibbs, Johnstone)
2 10 (Roughead, Lappin, Primus, Ottens, Cotchin, Hasleby, Rocca, Thomas, Wells, Ball)
3 6 (Judd, Croad, Grant, Griffen, Didak, Martin)
4 5 (Pavlich, Matera, Leppitsch, Lucas, Kennedy)
5 6 (Franklin, Pendlebury, Boak, McVeigh, Smith, Power)
6 1 (Wingard)
7 7 (Selwood, Lewis, Johnson, Mackie, Cameron, Ryder, Hale)
8 5 (Bartel, Corey, Bolton, Heppell, Tarrant)
9 3 (Cornes, Pike, McVeigh)
10 3 (Dangerfield, Brown, McPharlin)
11 3 (Hayes, Glass, Johnson)
12 7 (Wanganeen, Burgoyne, Jones, Rioli, Scott, Frawley)
13 8 (Crawford, Dal Santo, Riewoldt, McKay, Murphy, Talia, Ebert, Stanton)
14 5 (Allan, Holland, Simpson, Birchall, B Smith)
15 3 (Hudghton, Camporeale, Rawlings)
16 5 (Gehrig, Thompson, Yze, Burton, Douglas)
17 3 (Taylor, Kelly, McAdam)
18 5 (Kerr, Colbert, Stevens, Shaw, Rance)
19 7 (Hall, Mundy, Green, Ward, Smith, Davis, Gram)
20 5 (Fyfe, Cornes, Fletcher, Minson, Cummings)

Basically, if you've got a top 20 pick you've got somewhere between a one in five and a one in ten chance of getting a really good player. (Unless you have pick 6 - no wonder the Doggies were so keen to offload it for Boyd.) It's a crap shoot unless you're in the top two or to a lesser extent the top 5.

Campo was a much better player than Hudghton.

 

[King_Steele]

Yes, as good as matera was, you take the 300 game power forward/fullback/midfielder if you get the choice.

Everyday of the week.

All-Australian Forward & Defender - very rare accolade.

 

[bergholt]

Campo was a much better player than Hudghton.

They're not in preference order. Camporeale was A-grade, so was Hudghton. In their prime they would have got a game at any side.

 

[Schauermann]

Kane Cornes AA: 2005, 2007; B&F: 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012

Nat Fyfe AA: 2014; B&F: 2013

At this stage Cornes wins

Potential ... sure, Fyfe is a beauty

Well, this obviously shows that it cannot be decied unless all involved players have finished their career.

Peter Matera would challenge Pavlich at #4

And also based a bit on team needs. But would go key position in most cases.

Ps 6 is the most easy choice...

 

[Big_Birdy]

Ben Cousins the best player to go at pick 0.

F/S was a bit of a joke back then

 

[Bobby_]

Ben Cousins the best player to go at pick 0.

F/S was a bit of a joke back then

Geelong was literally a whisker away from securing him but he opted for West Coast unfortunately.

Imagine Cousins alongside Bartel, Kelly, Corey, Ablett, Ling and Chapman at the peak of their powers

 

[Procrastinator35]

Who drafted John Platten in 1981, when he debuted for Hawthorn in 1986?
As far as I'm aware, Rat nominated Carlton, was given money and a new Commodore, then changed his mind and went to Hawthorn after much persuasion from Dermie, Dipper etc after a State of Origin series!

Other way round actually....We signed Platten under the old 'Form 4' format, Carlton then tried to scupper that agreement by offering him a mega offer prior to the 1986 season; for which we took them to court over & Won!....Henceforth Platten played for us from 1986 on-wards....A court decision for which He hasn't regretted since!

 

[Ants]

The most striking thing about this list is how few really good players there have been at each draft pick. In almost thirty drafts (excluding 81 and 82) there's only a handful of A-graders at each pick:
...........
Basically, if you've got a top 20 pick you've got somewhere between a one in five and a one in ten chance of getting a really good player. (Unless you have pick 6 - no wonder the Doggies were so keen to offload it for Boyd.) It's a crap shoot unless you're in the top two or to a lesser extent the top 5.

Yep, this. Pretty much from this we can say:

a. If you have a pick between 6 and 20 and can trade it for someone who is good/looks to become good - trade it!
b. If you are losing someone good, a pick between 6 and 20 does not cut it.
c. No wonder clubs need high priority picks to really give them a shot in the arm!

 

[manny100]

Yep, this. Pretty much from this we can say:

a. If you have a pick between 6 and 20 and can trade it for someone who is good/looks to become good - trade it!
b. If you are losing someone good, a pick between 6 and 20 does not cut it.
c. No wonder clubs need high priority picks to really give them a shot in the arm!

Geez, the Dees may well end up short changed getting pick 3 for Frawley!!!!!

 

[lethalsaints]

Kane Cornes AA: 2005, 2007; B&F: 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012

Nat Fyfe AA: 2014; B&F: 2013

At this stage Cornes wins

Potential ... sure, Fyfe is a beauty

Agreed. Fyfe's gf apperance put me off also

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Agreed. Fyfe's gf apperance put me off also

You mean the 2 kicks on goal put you off. Fyfe was one of our best in that Grand Final, don't let 2 kicks tell you differently.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Yes, as good as matera was, you take the 300 game power forward/fullback/midfielder if you get the choice.

Please Matera is much better.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Please Matera is much better.

No.

 

[TradeDraft]

Being a Pies supporter I hated seeing it but when that bloke Gehrig was on song, damn he was good.

He was Signed to play for Collingwood but the Eagles where Pissed off about MM leaving that they wanted nothing to do with us

 

[bombersfan4000]

LOL Darren Gasper