Do you think there's much chance?
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Cheaper in terms of salary....sure.....but AT and DS aren't free agents.....so not necessarily "cheaper" depending on what we need to give up.
It's a tough one isn't it and we'll all have a different view on what may be best.
Paying up to 1.2 mil for one player isn't exactly what I'd call a free hit either, as it may cost you elsewhere.
There's no question we need quality mids but would we sooner Dangerfield and keep our picks or lose our picks and and a player, in order to acquire possibly 2 quality mids?
Draft picks are great and could well be too good to let go, dependent on, a. Where we finish. b. The quality of player we may attain with that selection, so many factors have to come into account, although if the likes of Jaksch, Whiley, DVR, Boekhorst, Smith etc show up plenty this year, whilst we're still developing Byrne, Giles, Holman etc we may just feel that the foundations are there and a couple of 22 year olds may hold us in a good state for a longer period of time.
A lot of assumptions I know and that's why we got Silvagni, I guess.
You cant trust you throw 1.2 million at a player and not run the risk he has an injury and rubs himself out for the year. The risk factor is too great for my liking. Kouta was a perfect example.
I want to know why Juddy changed his mind, for less than $300k for the year. Juddy is not the kind of guy who is persuaded to change his mind. None of us reasonably expect we are flag contenders this year, so why go around one more time, and probably for a figure of money way less than what he could earn out in the real world? For the love of the game? I dont think so.
He had mentioned late last year that it was the first time in a while (I cant remember what period of time he said) when you knew what you were getting from the 21 other blokes you ran out with. Besides that Port belting because we could barely field a side, we were a bloody good side come seasons end and you felt we were right at the tipping point for winning the big games. Beat North by 23 (arguably our best game of the season), lost to Freo by 5 in Perth, beat Gold Coast by 39, lost to Geelong by 6, drew with Essendon.
Why Juddy? Why are you gracing us with another year?
I want to know why Juddy changed his mind, for less than $300k for the year. Juddy is not the kind of guy who is persuaded to change his mind. None of us reasonably expect we are flag contenders this year, so why go around one more time, and probably for a figure of money way less than what he could earn out in the real world? For the love of the game? I dont think so.
He had mentioned late last year that it was the first time in a while (I cant remember what period of time he said) when you knew what you were getting from the 21 other blokes you ran out with. Besides that Port belting because we could barely field a side, we were a bloody good side come seasons end and you felt we were right at the tipping point for winning the big games. Beat North by 23 (arguably our best game of the season), lost to Freo by 5 in Perth, beat Gold Coast by 39, lost to Geelong by 6, drew with Essendon.
Why Juddy? Why are you gracing us with another year?
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What would we have to give up for one if not both the giants boys?
Let's say we finish bottom 4 and Kruezer does decide to go as a free agent. Would picks 4 and 5 get them both?
Let's say we finish bottom 4 and Kruezer does decide to go as a free agent. Would picks 4 and 5 get them both?
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Nappies or beating Richmond in front of 90k. Gee, I dunno..........
Simple enough a question but a very good one to which the answer would give us insight into the general feel within the playing group at the CFC.
Reckon it will be asked through the course of the year and we'll get our answer.
Whichever way though, I'm glad he's going around again as would every other player at the CFC.
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Not sure we'd get DS, but I think AT would be a realistic get.
If it is as simple as the answer he gave (and not just some dribble that he gave for the media) then we did turn a corner in the last 6 games of last year and we can expect something this year. Not forgetting in those last 6 games we had nothing to play for - North, Geelong, Freo, Port (who towelled us up) and Essendon all did. Besides the Port blemish we either won (North) or were within 6 points and this is against teams that finished 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7th (Port finished 5th). Now its one thing to play well when finals are on the line and you are jostling to be a part of it or claim a top 4 spot / home final, but it takes character to fight those sides to the wire like we did with nothing to play for and the club ethos at that point in time was "this is training for 2015" and if you couple Juddy returning against his decision to retire (and lets not forget he already booked his trip away which is why he returned back late to pre season training) you gotta think that something special is coming this year.
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Everyone saying we should go hard after Treloar and Shiels... what a good laugh.
All it is going to take is 3 teams making first round bids on Silvagni, Bradley and Rice and we are out of the first 3 rounds unless we trade in.
And that happens before the trade period starts so we could really be out of the trade period before it even begins. So going for Dangers for nicks is going to be our best option I reckon.
All it is going to take is 3 teams making first round bids on Silvagni, Bradley and Rice and we are out of the first 3 rounds unless we trade in.
And that happens before the trade period starts so we could really be out of the trade period before it even begins. So going for Dangers for nicks is going to be our best option I reckon.
Do we know at this early what kind of talent these boys have that we could reasonably expect if other teams may bid on them, and if so with what draft picks?
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I would love to see Kreuzer coming out in the preseason and making a massive statement as a ruckman and forcing the club to use him as our #1 ruckman and player Warnock in the VFL all season. Honestly out of the 3 of our proper rucks, Kreuzer, when he is on song, and Wood are ahead of Knockers for second and third efforts.
It might be harsh, but I really hope the club doesn't pay overs for a father/son player because of their name. I doubt they would, but there's always a little doubt in the back of my mind that someone high-up will say "I don't care what it costs, we need another Silvagni/Bradley in the team!"
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They will only cost as much as the next club is willing to pay (ie. draft pick) for them. My impression is that they need to be more talented than what the rival club offers up for them, because they always run the risk of the "go home" factor if they do get picked up. For example, you have had 2 generations of Silvagnis at the club. You cant tell me a Collingwood is going to offer up a 2nd rounder to get them unless he is a top 10 pick.
I guess what I am saying is, unless they are a serious top 10 selection, clubs are only going to offer up "unders" in terms of draft pick selection to get them, because the risk/reward with that strong tie to the fathers club is just way too high.
Cheers MH. I think another part of it was wanting to make sure that they didn't get the nod over a 'no-name' player in the draft because of their family ties. Again, I am sure the club will be sure of who they want well before the end of the season anyway!
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If we finish top 8 and win a final this year... yes... get in another champion midfielder. You can never have enough elite talent in the side.
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He apparently has a pretty impressive property portfolio over here in WA from his time with the weagles.
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I honestly think that we would be going for Silvagni with our 4th round pick... I dont think that there is any other club, apart from possibly GWS, who would even consider taking one of the Silvagni boys in the bidding process. Bailey Rice might be interesting because both St Kilda and us have dibs on the lad but I think that the rumours of him preferring Carlton as a destination might see him go to us. I dont see either club bidding higher than a second round pick for him. Jake Bradley could possibly go the round after Silvagni in my opinion.
However, stranger things have happened in this world and GWS could be smarting a bit by the defection of SOS to Carlton might try and snaffle Jack just to piss us off. Especially if the rumours surrounding AT start getting louder towards the end of the year. Hopefully Bailey will come out and nominate Carlton as his preferred destination as a F/S and we could end up going for the kids with our 4th, 5th and 6th round picks.
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