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bourbons said:
What a show. Chalky is the man. Sorry to see Dunn Purnsley go, loved watching that guy. But if it was either him or Chalky, yeah gotta stick with Chalky. Great to see Mueller getting back to being Van Alden too. Surely it was Torio who tried to kill Al.
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They did just kill the North side gang leader. So there are two viable options.
 
Vincent Chase said:
Yep and some of the camera shots are as well.

The shot of the coffee spreading through the table cloth, the car headlight transition into a film projector etc...
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Cinematography, lighting and art direction is consistently amazing, looks like a movie half the time.

Just look at this s**t, so beautiful

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Underdog said:
I think the scene where Eli questioned why Will was involved and he explained it was "what they do" might be the catalyst for Eli to tell Nucky. Reasoning being, if he's going to enter the business against his wishes, he's got to take what comes with it.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking too when he asked Will if this was really the life he wants. Now that he's 'all-in', so to speak, I imagine Eli will come clean to Nucky. Don't expect Knox to survive the season.
 

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Rod Stroker said:
Torrio? Seemed a neat coincidence that he left and then it started raining bullets.

I wonder if Chalky will think that Nucky tried to have him killed with those 2 guys that Bader sent.

It's all building nicely. Richard back in mix about to go all Harrow again.
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In real history Torio and Capone were very close. What will happen next is Torio gets the absolute s**t shot out of him by the Northern Chicago Irish gangs and he survives then retires to Italy, giving Chicago to Capone.

Will be interesting if the show follows that exactly, as it seems to be building some tension between Torio and Capone that may/may not have really existed.
 
Hot Pocket said:
In real history Torio and Capone were very close. What will happen next is Torio gets the absolute s**t shot out of him by the Northern Chicago Irish gangs and he survives then retires to Italy, giving Chicago to Capone.

Will be interesting if the show follows that exactly, as it seems to be building some tension between Torio and Capone that may/may not have really existed.
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No spoilers FFS! :mad:

Some of us on here do not know and do not want to know the history. I want the show to reveal it to me in its own interpretation, regardless of how close it might be to the truth.
 
Rod Stroker said:
No spoilers FFS! :mad:

Some of us on here do not know and do not want to know the history. I want the show to reveal it to me in its own interpretation, regardless of how close it might be to the truth.
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Its not really a spoiler man, its history.

But ok don't read below then

Rothstein dies after welching on a gambling debt
Luciano kills Masseria and takes over NYC with Meyer
Nucky lives and gets sent to jail much later in life
Capone becomes the richest man in America and is eventually jailed for tax avoidance
Hymie Weiss likely to be Dean O'Banion's replacement short term, then maybe Bugs Malone
 
Rod Stroker said:
If the story line hasn't aired on the show yet then it's a spoiler and I don't want to hear it. History or not.
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The real life events have been discussed in multiple other posts in this thread mate. I'll use spoiler tags from now on, but maybe this thread isn't for you if its going to be a problem. Its only a spoiler if I know what is going to happen on the show, and I don't.
 
I agree with history lessons being a spoiler. It's much the same as discussing the books in Game of Thrones. In both cases, the TV story line doesn't follow it particularly strictly, but their spoilers nonetheless.
 
Except one is a work of fiction.

Anyway this thread needs a massive cleanup if history can't be discussed. As I said, I'm happy to use the spoilers tag from here on in.
 
Hot Pocket said:
Except one is a work of fiction.

Anyway this thread needs a massive cleanup if history can't be discussed. As I said, I'm happy to use the spoilers tag from here on in.
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Why does that make a difference?

Both use a source material that the show is based on regardless of what that medium is. If we can't discuss the source material of one show, I hardly think it's fair to discuss the source material of another.

I'm not having a go at you BTW.
 
No its fine, its an interesting debate really.

In practical terms, it won't be a problem as I'll use the spoiler tags. But take a movie like the one coming out about JFK - is it a spoiler to mention that he dies?

I guess with Boardwalk some of the characters are a bit more obscure so perhaps it isn't reasonable to discuss their fates, but people like Capone, Dean O'Banion, Bugs Malone, Luciano, Lansky, Rothstein and Masseria are very, very famous crime figures who many would know the history/fate of (or at least know the fate of quite a few of them).

At what point do we consider something 'common knowledge' rather than a spoiler? I agree with GOT its a spoiler because, well, its a huge book series. But when you're talking about an historical drama based on very well known events, like Underbelly was when it aired in Victoria, there's got to be a certain amount of assumed knowledge, right?
 

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Hot Pocket said:
Of old age in a retirement home in the late 60's, yeah.
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See, that's just a prick move right there. You're purposefully being a jerk.

I personally know the fate of Capone only. The others I know absolutely nothing about except that they changed Nucky's name slightly. It'd be nice if the discussion could focus on the show rather than the real-life history of the people it is very loosely based on.

To be honest, I don't actually care all that much ...
 
MC Bad Genius said:
See, that's just a prick move right there. You're purposefully being a jerk.

I personally know the fate of Capone only. The others I know absolutely nothing about except that they changed Nucky's name slightly. It'd be nice if the discussion could focus on the show rather than the real-life history of the people it is very loosely based on.

To be honest, I don't actually care all that much ...
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FFS...Hot Pocket ^^^ 7 days from joining in and already giving me the shits.
 
Hot Pocket said:
I guess with Boardwalk some of the characters are a bit more obscure so perhaps it isn't reasonable to discuss their fates, but people like Capone, Dean O'Banion, Bugs Malone, Luciano, Lansky, Rothstein and Masseria are very, very famous crime figures who many would know the history/fate of (or at least know the fate of quite a few of them).
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Crime figures sure, but very very famous? Dunno about that, except for Capone I had no idea about any of those names prior to the show. You'd know them if you were particualry into american crime/history but 'common knowledge'? For everyone but Capone, nah.

Hot Pocket said:
Of old age in a retirement home in the late 60's, yeah.
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Thought you were going to use spoiler tags? You too pants :p
 
Soz that was a brainfart.

Anyway, is Lucky Luciano not well known? Meyer Lansky? I mean, he's Hyman Roth from the godfather!
 
Just speaking for myself, nope. For Luciano and Rothstein, vague feeling that I might have heard the name somewhere prior to the start of the show but have absolutely no knowledge of their lives. Lansky, Masseria, Torio, O'Banion etc nope, never heard of them.
 
I dont think there's any real spoiler stuff, but I'll use the tags anyway:

Meyer Lansky is the basis for any 'jew' character in any italian mafia movie. One of the most sucessul gangsters of all time. Set up casino's in Cuba, helped establish Vegas with Siegel etc.

Have you heard of Bugsy Siegel? He showed up briefly in season 2 of Boardwalk, haven't seen much of him since but depending how long the show goes I hope he gets more screen time.

Anyway, Lansky and Siegel used to run the 'Bugs and Meyer' gang, all jewish kids from NYC. Then with Luciano they established 'Murder Inc.' and were basically guns for hire. Its hard to tell at which point Boardwalk is really representing them though.

Luciano is famous for establishing the 'Commission' and being the head of all five families. First Italian mafioso to really utilise people from Irish, Turkish, Jewish backgrounds as part of his operations. That put him at odds with Masseria (which has been touched on in the show a bit). Probably the most influential gangster in US history.
 
bourbons said:
Crime figures sure, but very very famous? Dunno about that, except for Capone I had no idea about any of those names prior to the show. You'd know them if you were particualry into american crime/history but 'common knowledge'? For everyone but Capone, nah.



Thought you were going to use spoiler tags? You too pants :p
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Kidding yourself right, some I'd agree with in that they we're only famous criminals but guys like Luciano and Meyer Lansky are very famous.
 
chargers 09 said:
Kidding yourself right, some I'd agree with in that they we're only famous criminals but guys like Luciano and Meyer Lansky are very famous.
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Like I said I can only speak for myself and Capone was the only one I'd be able to tell you anything about prior to this show, don't think I'd be on my own there either. 'Common knowledge' is definately a stretch.
 
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