Bombers to admit OH&S failure

[deedog2]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...t-worksafe-fail-in-court-20151129-glb5v0.html

 

[Percel]

Essendon Football Club will plead guilty to two charges of risking its players' health and failing to provide a safe working environment over its supplements program, a court heard on Monday.
In a short hearing in the Melbourne Magistrates Court, the club's lawyer Garry Livermore said they would enter a formal plea to two charges of breaching the Occupational Health and Safety Act.
Court documents released to the media on Monday stated the club's supplement program, between December 2011 to 15 January, 2012 and 15 January to September, 2012, exposed its players to risks to their health and safety and failed to provide a safe working environment.

James Hird, right, as he announces his retirement. Photo: Getty Images
The charge sheets stated that the club failed to comply to the following in order to reduce risk to its players:

• Provide the club doctor with a summary of literature about the supplement that included the scientific and common name, all clinical findings both positive and negative, known or potential side-effects and a statement saying it did not contravene any World Anti-Doping Authority guidelines.
• The club doctor failed to make a recommendation about the suitability of the substance for the players.
• The players were not given a letter of informed consent to sign by the club doctor if they were recommended to use the substance.

 

[hazard]

B-b-b-b-but no evidence!

 

[boncer34]

B-b-b-b-but no evidence!

Are you this stupid away from the keyboard?

No one had argued against this.

 

[NikkiNoo]

And there is what jenny61_99 and I have both said about the consent forms. That they were effectively useless and not proper informed consent forms. The stipulation that that club doctor had to be the one to provide the forms to the players is a new bit of information.

With some from within the club trying to sideline Dr Reid, it has brought this all upon itself.

 

[Spongebob]

Club doctor does not look too positive in the charges


The charge sheets stated that the club failed to comply to the following in order to reduce risk to its players:

• Provide the club doctor with a summary of literature about the supplement that included the scientific and common name, all clinical findings both positive and negative, known or potential side-effects and a statement saying it did not contravene any World Anti-Doping Authority guidelines.
• The club doctor failed to make a recommendation about the suitability of the substance for the players.
• The players were not given a letter of informed consent to sign by the club doctor if they were recommended to use the substance.

 

[Muggs]

Club doctor does not look too positive in the charges

Actually disagree, to me that first charge is the doctor was sidelined, as such the next two occurred.

 

[MaddAdam]

Club doctor does not look too positive in the charges


The charge sheets stated that the club failed to comply to the following in order to reduce risk to its players:

• Provide the club doctor with a summary of literature about the supplement that included the scientific and common name, all clinical findings both positive and negative, known or potential side-effects and a statement saying it did not contravene any World Anti-Doping Authority guidelines.
• The club doctor failed to make a recommendation about the suitability of the substance for the players.
• The players were not given a letter of informed consent to sign by the club doctor if they were recommended to use the substance.

In any place, old Doc Reid would be out the door (yes, I know he's a volunteer etc) today.

But no, not at Bomberland.

Bind moggling.

 

[MaddAdam]

Actually disagree, to me that first charge is the doctor was sidelined, as such the next two occurred.

So the Doc is relying on the "Hey, I'm so crap at my job I didn't even know what was going on!" defence.

My God. NO wonder they are so shithouse.

 

[Muggs]

So the Doc is relying on the "Hey, I'm so crap at my job I didn't even know what was going on!" defence.

My God. NO wonder they are so shithouse.

Agree he could have been more proactive, don't dispute this. Just not sure where the line is between a proactive doctor and a patients / clubs informing him of what is happening.

 

[TerryWallet]

How the lickspittle Reid is still at the Club is staggering. It has always been staggering. He makes a mockery of himself and the role of a Doctor by still being there.

Either

A) He was complicit and/or gutless and failed his duties to players and he should have been sacked long ago

or

B) He was deliberately sidelined and made to look a fool and he should have resigned long ago. Yet he stuck around, poodling the people who sidelined him with "United Nations skills".

 

[FootyGeek]

Sounds like Doc Reid took the Hypocritical oath rather then the Hippocratic.

 

[Randomizor]

Oh wow what a coincidence. Was just out for a stroll this morning and spotted Hal Hunter jogging. As he went past me, I could have sworn he literally had dollar signs in his eyes.

Makes sense now.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Pretty hard to deny this one.

 

[Satan]

A fine of up to 600,000 odd will be cheaper than pleading not guilty and having the likes of a hall of famer (Dr Reid) in the witness box and be cross examined. That would open up pandora's box of worms. Hal's lawyers would be front row in the public area

 

[Xtreme]

The entire club could have avoided 3 years of pain by admitting guilt from the beginning, only now they are in for a long road of pain.... and much more than people denying and finding numerous ways to delay the inevitable.

 

[Proper Gander]

A fine of up to 600,000 odd will be cheaper than pleading not guilty and having the likes of a hall of famer (Dr Reid) in the witness box and be cross examined. That would open up pandora's box of worms. Hal's lawyers would be front row in the public area

You're thinking of worm farms, not Pandora's box.

Carry on

 

[southwest bomber]

A fine of up to 600,000 odd will be cheaper than pleading not guilty and having the likes of a hall of famer (Dr Reid) in the witness box and be cross examined. That would open up pandora's box of worms. Hal's lawyers would be front row in the public area

Heard this morning that the max fine is $309k.
Will try find link to source.

 

[southwest bomber]

Heard this morning that the max fine is $309k.
Will try find link to source.

My mistake.. It's $305k

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-...-to-worksafe-charges-over-supplements/6986130

 

[jenny61_99]

Agree he could have been more proactive, don't dispute this. Just not sure where the line is between a proactive doctor and a patients / clubs informing him of what is happening.

Could is not the word to use. SHOULD is more appropriate. He knew enough crap was going on that forced him to write a letter... and then promptly never followed up.

 

[Satan]

Heard this morning that the max fine is $309k.
Will try find link to source.

Per charge , 2 charges

 

[The Prosecutor]

Per charge , 2 charges

It's still clearly a maximum fine of $305k...

 

[southwest bomber]

Per charge , 2 charges

Again, as I understand, the maximum fine is for pleading guilty to both charges.

 

[Randomizor]

It's still clearly a maximum fine of $305k...

Siding with you on this one. Article states that in no uncertain terms.

 

[Satan]

Again, as I understand, the maximum fine is for pleading guilty to both charges.

Even cheaper then to plead guilty