Yeah but - he probably gets that treatment all around the country because he is quite simply a flog. I mean to say that personally when I see the guy I just think "Flog" and thats about it.
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Yeah but - he probably gets that treatment all around the country because he is quite simply a flog. I mean to say that personally when I see the guy I just think "Flog" and thats about it.
Haha I believe the knitting supplies stall outside the stadium was sold out a little earlier than usual, maybe everything isn't as it seems.
Totally agreed, hard to deny by the end it wasn't widespread though.
No denying people think that, can't tell people who they like /don't like. It's just when people say he is a flog for standing up for indigenous people (which is clearly a large portion of people) that I have an issue with.
Indeed - and it is hard to know the minds of any one but your own. From where I sit I am of the opinion that for many it his on field actions they rail against.
No worries, I just think a cursory glance at this thread / any comment thread on the issue (especially a facebook one...) should leave you with no doubt that it is in a large part related to his off field stance (judging by the endless references to AOTY, invasion day, war dance, pointing out the girl who racially vilified him etc.). You might be looking in different places to me but there is an overwhelmingly lack of any reference to his actual on field acts to convince me that this the main motivation (not saying that it isn't a part of it). If that is your view, fair enough! But don't give the others any encouragement for their actions.
I think it is very hard to pin down these groups of people and suggest that the same plonkers that where booing the guy or the umps or the general gameplay are the same ones in the media, on facebook or in these very forums that may be racially motivated. Not saying there is no overlap - just that it would be hard to know the overlap.
You totally lost me there, Goodes has been booed by a couple of hundred thousand people this past year. Unless these guys don't have facebook / bigfooty I'd say the overlap is pretty significant. The people who have booed are also the most vocal in their defense.
Where did you get that figure from.
He's been booed for over a year by supporters from all clubs. By the end of yesterday's match (just one of them), at least half the crowd (20,000 people) were joining in. Obviously that figure is in no way accurate but my point was a significant number of people have booed.
So a significant number of supporters at every club are racists that post here and on facebook?
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The PC brigade are taking some massive liberties with their opinions and extrapolation of the Booing to suit their agenda. It's apparently ok to offend non indigenous people now.
The amount of Booing is also being exaggerated. While it was quite audible the fact is the majority of people were not Booing.
The amount of Booing is also being exaggerated. While it was quite audible the fact is the majority of people were not Booing.
Racists? No. Casual racism? Most certainly yes.
"Some associate racism with a belief in racial superiority or deliberate acts of discrimination. Casual racism concerns not so much a belief in the superiority of races but negative prejudice or stereotypes concerning race.
Unlike overt and intentional acts of racism, casual racism isn’t often intended to cause offence or harm.
One of the obstacles to having an open conversation about race is the tendency to downplay things as not “truly” or “really” racist. This can embolden or encourage prejudice.
You don’t need to subscribe to doctrines of racial superiority or incite racial violence to say or do something with racist implications.
Racism is as much about impact as it is about intention. We shouldn’t forget about those who are on the receiving end of discrimination."
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Ok,lest do a quick tally
Every player in the afl has supported Goodes
Every coach ditto ....all in Goodes camp
Most journalists in his camp
Most aboriginal people are in his camp ......
Against ......
Allan jones
Dermot Brereton
And a few nufiies on big footy ......
I think this is where it's at .....and it clearly indicates it's racism .....
Every player in the afl has supported Goodes
Every coach ditto ....all in Goodes camp
Most journalists in his camp
Most aboriginal people are in his camp ......
Against ......
Allan jones
Dermot Brereton
And a few nufiies on big footy ......
I think this is where it's at .....and it clearly indicates it's racism .....
He is booed for many different reasons but most of all, it has just caught on and people are following the masses now. Calling and labelling people racist is just disgusting. This is all just a storm in a tea-cup and the media have blown it up now that malthouse is off the headlines.
I find it hard to believe that Goodes is taking it personally. He is a professional footballer who has been playing for many years and heard the boos and cheers all through. I've always thought Goodes has longed for his own Nicky Winmar moment where he changes the world for the better. I think he sees an opportunity in this current controversy but I find it all to be manufactured. I don't subscribe to anyone who is saying that people are actively thinking about the colour of his skin, culture or ethnicity when they are booing - the war has already been won.
Of course his intentions may all be genuine, however, I am sceptical.
I find it hard to believe that Goodes is taking it personally. He is a professional footballer who has been playing for many years and heard the boos and cheers all through. I've always thought Goodes has longed for his own Nicky Winmar moment where he changes the world for the better. I think he sees an opportunity in this current controversy but I find it all to be manufactured. I don't subscribe to anyone who is saying that people are actively thinking about the colour of his skin, culture or ethnicity when they are booing - the war has already been won.
Of course his intentions may all be genuine, however, I am sceptical.
According to one Francis Leach of the ABC, we are all drongos, rednecks. It just doesn't end! Everybody being so bloody self-righteous and politically correct.
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Disgusted i say.
Disgusted i say.
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Just because every player in the AFL has come out, doesn't make it so. Who are the players' employer? And journalists' and the media, don't get me started. They would sell their first born child for a good story.
At the Claremont v Swans game today there was a fair bit of comment on the issue in the outer, from people who I would consider joe public. None of it backed the media's, or AFL's stance. Kiefer Yu, Rudi Riddoch, et al did NOT get booed.
The AFL, or media, want to make it into something it is not, in my opinion.
The important & obvious question is... did Swan Districts win?
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This is unsurprising, considering how badly you've been missing the point for this entire thread.
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Well its also the lead sports story on Al Jazeera English as I flick past at the moment.
Oh and apparently there is a whole special on it coming up.
Oh and apparently there is a whole special on it coming up.
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Perhaps Al Jazeera have been to some Russian soccer matches....
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