Summer #Brisbane2032 - Brisbane announced as host of the 2032 Olympics!

[Jeremias]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Over the last few weeks there have been stories about Brisbane putting in a Bid for 2028 culminating with last Friday at a meeting of the 12 Mayors of SE Queensland agreeing to go ahead with a feasability study to see if they should go ahead with a bid. If they are going to go for 2028 they dont have to make their final bid presentation until about September 2021, with a formal launch of the bid starting in early 2018 with a formal application - around the time of 2018 Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast ending. 2032 might be better because as I wrote in the 2024 bid thread this is how the Olympics have been awarded the last 30 years and into the future.

America's time zone ... Euro/ME/African time zone ..... Asia/Oceania time zone
1984 LA........................1992 Barcelona...........................1988 Seoul
1996 Atlanta..................2004 Athens...............................2000 Sydney
2016 Rio.......................2012 London...............................2008 Beijing
2028 Nth America..........2024 Euro bid..............................2020 Tokyo

First story I saw was IOC President Thomas Bach saying Australia should bid for 2024 or 2028, but 2024 would be too early given Tokyo has it in 2020.

From 21st February
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...d-for-2024-games/story-e6frg7mf-1227233024509

INTERNATIONAL Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach has encouraged a fresh Olympic bid from an Australian city for the 2024 or 2028 Olympic Games because of “the love Australians have for their sporting identities’’.

Bach told The Weekend Australian from his offices in the Chateau de Vidy, overlooking Lake Geneva, this week that three Australian cities already had sufficient infrastructure in place to each host a cost-efficient Games and said “the project would not be complicated’’.

While not naming the three cities, Bach was referring to Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne and he emphasised that the memories of the great Sydney Olympics were still so fresh in everyone’s mind: perhaps suggesting a well-organised Australian bid would be favourably received.

He said Australians “love their athletes and the Olympic candidature is a great boost to the athletes for their support”.

He added: “It is up to the politicians but the cities don’t have to start from scratch. It is not complicated to put the project together. It might be more complicated to choose the city than to put the project together.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...d-for-2024-games/story-e6frg7mf-1227233024509

and

New IOC rules introduced last December have encouraged new city interest as the spiralling costs of recent bids — beyond $50 million — have been severely scaled back. The IOC has limited the lobbying efforts of bid cities and will pay for its own evaluation team to produce a technical report on each bid city.

Such pruning came after only two cities remained in the race to host the 2022 Winter Olympics — Almaty in Kazakhstan and Beijing. And there were fears the huge costs were scaring off cities.

This story in The Oz on 26th February

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...28-olympic-games/story-e6frg7mf-1227239183186

SOUTHEAST Queensland’s mayors will meet next week to consider a regional bid based around Brisbane for the 2028 Olympic Games.

In response to questions from The Australian about a possible bid, Brisbane lord mayor Graham Quirk said he would add discussion of a combined regional Olympic bid proposal to the agenda of the next Council of Mayors (SEQ) meeting on March 6.

Following its successful staging of the G20 in November, Brisbane was the obvious choice to be Australia’s next candidate city to host the Games, Quirk said.

“It’s Australia’s new ‘world city’. We have demonstrated we are capable of staging world events, staging them safely and staging them successfully with attention to detail.”

But Quirk stressed any bid for the Games would need to involve the entire southeast Queensland region, in which about one-seventh of Australia’s population resides.

“As a group of mayors we are very proactive and we work co-operatively and I would be very surprised if there wasn’t across-the-board interest.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...28-olympic-games/story-e6frg7mf-1227239183186

Then on Saturday 28th February Nicole Jeffries writes about how Sydney is template for another Oz bid but also for other cities as Sydney was the first Olymics to have a transfer of intellectual property. Prior to Sydney host cities used to conduct the Olympics but not document their whole process from bidding, post bidding and the actual 2 weeks of the events. SOCOG sold all their manuals, documentation and intellectual property etc to the IOC for about $7mil and then to many bidding cities for 2008 onwards and also the Greeks bought it and many SOCOG staff. Under SOCOG CEO Sandy Holloway was 4 senior executives. The Venues boss was ex NSWRL/ARL CEO John Quayle. My good friend was #3 in Venues department and he told me all about the documenting of all their processing and this IP transfer.

Can't find this story on-line so here is a cut and paste from www.pressdisplay.com

ONE of the least-known but ultimately most valuable legacies of the 2000 Sydney Olympics was that virtually none of the intellectual property accumulated while planning and staging the hugely successful Games was lost.

To that point, each Olympics developed into a new exercise in reinventing the wheel. The US might have escaped this to a degree, with only two Olympics separating the 1984 Los Angeles Games from those in Atlanta 12 years later, but generally each host city was on its own, fumbling around from scratch.

Sydney was where all that changed. Working with Monash University, the Australian Olympic Committee and the International Olympic Committee established a transfer of knowledge process that provided each subsequent Games city with a road map to start from. But that’s not the end of it. So well run were the Sydney Games that there has been virtually no major multi-sports event since staged anywhere in the world that wasn’t heavily staffed by Australians. The 2010 Delhi Commonwealth Games, the 2012 London Olympics, even the 2008 Beijing Games all drew significantly on Australian expertise.

All this know-how now will be placed at Brisbane’s disposal if, as seems increasingly likely, it pushes ahead with plans to bid for the 2028 Olympics.

As John Fahey, the former NSW premier who worked so closely with Sydney bid chief executive Rod McGeoch to make the 2000 Games a triumph, put it yesterday, the Brisbane bid should use Sydney as a template. “There is no point rewriting the program if there’s one already there,” he said.

Of course, it could be said Brisbane already has its own Olympic plans, the ones prepared in the mid 1980s for its ultimately unsuccessful bid for the 1992 Games.

The bad news is that they now are virtually irrelevant. The good news is that what makes them barely worthy of the effort of blowing the dust off is how spectacularly southeast Queensland has boomed over the past three decades. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy and in the case of Brisbane’s 1992 Games strategy, the main enemy was the most implacable one of all — time.

Looking back on the 1992 plans, the most striking feature is that what Brisbane was proposing was little more than a beefed-up version of the Commonwealth Games it staged 10 years earlier. Indeed, that’s exactly what it was, save for the addition of all those additional sports such as football, tennis, yachting and a dozen more that were not on the 1982 program.

But the sporting zones proposed were the same ones used in 1982, the inner-city, the Sleeman Sports Centre at Chandler, the nearby Belmont rifle range and the main QEII stadium at Nathan. The only significant addition was the Boondall zone where the Olympic Village was to have been built in close proximity to the venues for nine sports including yachting, which was to be held on Moreton Bay. Remnants of that plan will surely figure in any new Brisbane bid, most especially the Chandler zone which already has been given a new lease of life to play its part in the 2018 Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast. A new 4000-seat velodrome is being built there, while the Belmont shooting facilities are being significantly upgraded.

Overall, the Gold Coast Games will go close to almost doubling the capacity of what Brisbane was offering for 1992, not just in terms of sporting venues but also on the accommodation front.

Whether the Boondall wetlands would still be seen as the ideal venue for an Olympic Village to house 10,700 athletes would be up for debate but certainly they are well-serviced by the Gateway Arterial Road that links the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. The necessary infrastructure of a super-highway between Brisbane and the Gold Coast is already in place, a second Gateway Bridge is there as well and all that would be needed to complete that picture would be a substantial upgrade of the Sunshine Coast Highway. Oh, and a rail link direct to the Sunshine Coast, not one that merely passes in the general vicinity.

The other glaring infrastructure shortcoming is the lack of a 75-80,000-capacity main stadium. QEII would serve as a training venue but its day has passed and it may be that Brisbane needs to revisit plans to upgrade Lang Park or build a new stadium either on the site of the Roma Street rail yards or the Exhibition Grounds.

In the first instance, southeast Queensland’s Games tilt hinges on the outcome of Friday’s meeting of the mayors of the 12 regional councils but, as Australia’s longest-serving IOC member Kevan Gosper advised The Weekend Australian yesterday, ultimately for any bid to succeed it must have widespread community support.

If the mayors vote in favour of a bid, one of Lord Mayor Graham Quirk’s first tasks surely must be to set up a committee to design the broad concept of a 2028 Olympic plan. Fahey yesterday was confident the Queensland and federal governments would not need much convincing to back Brisbane, based on the fact the Sydney Games cost NSW “only” $2 billion.

Yes, Tony Abbott and Annastacia Palaszczuk might initially take some convincing, but it’s the people of Queensland, most especially the one in seven Australians who live in the southeast corner of the state, who need to be won over.

Who, one wonders, will emerge to play the charming, persuasive role Sallyanne Atkinson filled for the long-ago 1992 bid?

In The Oz on Thursday 5th March

IOC boss to meet Abbott in push to get an Australian Olympic bid running

INTERNATIONAL Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach will meet Prime Minister Tony Abbott next month to press the federal government to support a future Australian Olympic bid.

Australian Olympic Committee president and IOC vice-president John Coates said yesterday there was never any hidden agenda behind the April 29 meeting. Asked if Bach would take the opportunity to lobby Abbott to support a Games bid, Coates replied: “Inevitably.” For any bid to get off the ground, it would need to be underwritten by the federal government and relevant state government.

Bach has actually encouraged the AOC to bid for the 2024 Games but the competition for them is already ferocious, with Boston, Rome, a German entry — either Hamburg or Berlin — and possibly perennial contenders Paris and Istanbul all lining up. Besides, the AOC believes the earliest Australia can bid again in the wake of the 2000 Sydney Olympics is for the 2028 and/or 2032 Games.

The first step down that path is expected to be taken tomorrow when the 12-strong Council of Mayors of southeast Queensland meets to decide whether to formally lodge a Brisbane-centred regional bid for 2028. All indications are that they will vote to proceed, which will then place the AOC in the position of deciding whether to endorse Brisbane as its candidate city or to hold what Coates yesterday described as “a beauty parade”, with Melbourne the other contestant.

There have been vague expressions of interest in a future Olympics from the new Victorian government, but ironically what could bring a Melbourne bid unstuck are the three things it most prides itself on, the AFL, the Melbourne Cup and its weather.The IOC makes it a condition of staging the Games that there be no major competing sporting attractions on in the host city at the time of the Olympics, which poses problems for Melbourne with the AFL finals running from early September through to October while the Melbourne Cup is run, as tradition dictates, on the first Tuesday in November.

Melbourne’s 1956 Olympics ran from November 22-December 8 and the city proposed a similar timetable when it mounted its unsuccessful bid for the 1996 Olympics, but a recent IOC ruling that no Games be staged beyond August — to fit in with the northern hemisphere-dominated international sporting calendar — has taken the wind out of Victoria’s sails.

Of the three Australian cities with the infrastructure to run costeffective Games, only Brisbane could stage an August Olympics. Its failed 1992 bid, indeed, was scheduled for July-August.

However, Victorian Olympic Council president Nick Green had his eye on another recent IOC initiative — to allow “the organisation of entire sports or disciplines outside the host city or, in exceptional cases, outside the host country notably for reasons of geography and sustainability” — in suggesting a novel solution to Melbourne’s weather problems.

“If entire sports or disciplines can be staged outside the host city, why not have a bid from Australia, rather than just Brisbane or Melbourne?” asked Green. “Why couldn’t the indoor sports be staged in Melbourne, the outdoor sports in Brisbane?”

AOC secretary-general Fiona De Jong agreed that such an initiative, while improbable, would now be permitted by the IOC rules. “Anything’s possible,” De Jong told The Australian.

Coates said yesterday that before the AOC endorsed Brisbane or any candidate city, it first would ask for details of what it envisaged and particularly how its infrastructure needs for the future — independent of any Games bid — might be served by staging the Olympics.

“We would need to see any proposal fleshed out,” said Coates.

“We would need to have a picture of what the plan is in terms of utilisation of venues across these various cities (Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Toowoomba, Logan, and Ipswich), where the Olympic Village primarily would be located and what the proposal for an Olympic stadium would be because that’s probably the one big element missing from Brisbane.”

Coates said there might be sufficient flexibility in Bach’s schedule while he is briefly in Australia for him to visit Brisbane or at very worst to meet a Brisbane delegate to discuss its bid.

The IOC is searching for new ways to cut the costs of bidding for and staging Games

and then on Saturday 7th March in the Oz - John Coates back the SE Qld mayors and their feasibility study

AUSTRALIAN Olympic Committee president John Coates has hailed as a sensible approach the decision yesterday by the mayors of southeast Queensland to set up a feasibility study before deciding whether to lodge a formal Brisbane bid for the 2028 Olympics.

Representatives of the 12 councils that make up the Council of Mayors for southeast Queensland unanimously voted to take a potential bid to the next level by holding detailed discussions with Coates and the AOC.

As well, Brisbane Lord Mayor Graham Quirk indicated that he and hopefully other regional mayors plan to meet with International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach during his brief stopover in the city next month.

The main purpose of Bach’s three-day visit to Australia will be to meet with Prime Minister Tony Abbott in Canberra on April 29 to discuss a future Australian bid.

The first stage of sounding out what support the Federal Government might provide will begin on March 18 when Quirk visits Canberra for meetings with a number of Federal Ministers and Opposition shadow ministers. Quirk stressed yesterday that no money would be spent on a bid at this point and, potentially not ever if the decision ultimately is made not to proceed.

“All we have done today is agree in principle to take the discussion forward,” Quirk said.

“So we will have now a discussion with the AOC. They are the ones who are very experienced in the preparation of bids.

“It’s important that we now step by step do the work that needs to be done and we will not be rushed in doing that.”

Quirk insisted it could be “a few years” before any Brisbane bid reached the stage where the Queensland and Federal Governments needed to commit to underwriting it.

“It could be a few years before they have to definitely say yes or no and that’s why any talk (from the State Government) about being focused on cyclone damage, we understand that, absolutely understand that.

“There is no need for anyone to say whether they’re backing it or not backing it at this stage.”

Working backwards, the IOC will vote in 2021 to determine which city will host the 2028 Games.

No formal bids need to be lodged with the IOC until 2019, although Coates told The Weekend Australian yesterday that he would like Australia’s candidate city — if there is to be one — to be finalised earlier than that.

“We’d want to know if we’re going to endorse a city a couple of years before that (the IOC vote, and the city would also want an indication from us because it’s going to be relevant to their future planning,” Coates said.

Coates, who also is vice-president of the IOC, said the IOC was planning to have its framework document that sets out the basic requirement for bidding cities finalised by the end of next month.

“I also certainly would be counselling any bidding city not to make a final decision until they see the new host city contract, which is being prepared at the moment by the IOC for the 2024 bids,” Coates said.

The host city contract, which should be ready for scrutiny by September, sets out among other things what the IOC contribution would be.

“The IOC brings a lot of money to the table. For example, I think it brings to the table for the 2022 Winter Olympics bid some $880 million for operational costs and I would expect more than that for the Summer Games,” he said.

“We now quantify those matters in this document.”

Coates fully endorsed the “one step at a time” approach in committing to no more yesterday than examining the feasibility of a Games bid.

“The approach they’ve adopted today is very, very sensible.

“We’re talking about a very big enterprise and one that they have to understand fully and the AOC have to understand their bid fully before both parties proceed.”

Tom Tate, mayor of the Gold Coast, host city for the 2018 Commonwealth Games, said he believed that the combined resources and attractions of the region would make for a compelling bid. “If the IOC looks at affordability and enhancement of our existing facilities, then I think it makes sense the Olympics come here in 2028,” Tate said.

The Council of Mayors did not discuss how the Olympics could be woven into the future infrastructure needs of the region.

“We already have a plan for the infrastructure for the region.

“But what happens with the advent of this bid, it brings the plan into higher priority so we have legacies planned for the transport infrastructure, sporting infrastructure, education, health … all that will come to the fore.

After their meeting on the 6th March the 12 SE Qld Mayors agree to do a feasibility Study

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/26532534/brisbane-2028-olympics-bid-still-years-off/

Brisbane has shot out of the blocks in its efforts to host the 2028 Olympics, but will settle into a marathon pace as it works out how much the venture will cost.

Lord mayor Graham Quirk received the support of southeast Queensland's 11 other councils on Friday to put forward a regional bid to host the Games.

But Mr Quirk insisted it was just "one step in a very long journey" and any actual expression of interest would not be sought until January 2019 - almost four years away.

A formal bid will not need to be in until September of that year.

In the meantime, Mr Quirk says the group of southeast Queensland councils will work on a feasibility study and try to garner interest from state and federal governments.

But even that does not have to happen for "a few years".

"There's no need for anybody to say whether they're backing it or not backing it at this stage and that's the beauty of this," Mr Quirk said after the Council of Mayors South East Queensland meeting.

The state Labor government has been reluctant to comment on the idea, insisting it is focusing on Cyclone Marcia recovery efforts.

Brisbane's enthusiasm for the Summer Games comes after International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach last month encouraged an Australian bid for the 2024 or 2028 Games.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/26532534/brisbane-2028-olympics-bid-still-years-off/
and

http://gamesbids.com/eng/summer-oly.../queensland-mayors-to-study-2028-olympic-bid/

Mayors from across south-east Queensland have launched a study to decide whether Brisbane should bid for the 2028 Summer Olympic Games. The group includes regional and city councils from the Gold Coast in the south, to the Sunshine Coast in the north, and west to Toowoomba.

The proposal would require support from the federal and state governments before being put to the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC).

Brisbane Lord Mayor Graham Quirk lead the group, saying he plans to hold talks with the AOC, but added a formal expression of interest was still some way off.

He said the idea had come from the International Olympic Committee (IOC) president who said he though it would be good for Australia to bid for one of the Games in the 2020s.

AOC president John Coats said “Brisbane has got a lot of good venues; the Gold Coast is getting venues”. He said south-east Queensland had already proven its capabilities on the world stage.

http://gamesbids.com/eng/summer-oly.../queensland-mayors-to-study-2028-olympic-bid/

 

[The Passenger]

Would love for Australia to get the Olympics again. I was not quite 18 for the last ones so couldn't quite take full advantage of them by hitting the pubs and doing my best to sample the exotic ladies of the world. I'll be a too old to be doing so by the time they get back to Australia again, but would still love to see it happen.

That was really a great 2 weeks to be in Sydney.

 

[melbournemartin]

Would this mean the construction of an entirely new stadium, like with Stadium Australia? Surely the GABBA is too small to be the central venue.

Who would become the main tenant of this stadium? I suppose the Broncos.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

A new stadium would have to be built . Whether the QE II/ QASC stadium at Mt Gravatt is knocked down and a new one built has got to be considered. The Gabba wont be upgraded because you need an athletics warm up track close by maybe even 2. Mt Gravatt has a warm up track next to it - unless its been ripped up in the last few years but there is space there to build one. The organising committee will probably build a stadium something like London, 80,000 seats for the Olympics and then it can be easily pulled apart and leave a 25,000 seater and an athletics track. London is being kept the same until 2017 when it will host the IAAF world championships then West Ham takes it over and will be reconfigured. If London didnt bid for the 2015 and then 2017 world champs it would have been reconfiguredby now.

 

[magic_johnson!]

London's been undergoing redevelopment since the games, due to 'finish' next year. For now the athletics track is still there, and as you say is staying until 2017, but the costs of the stadium are huge from constant change.

 

[millsy29gopies]

Can't see Brisbane hosting the games in my lifetime to be honest. Melbourne is the obvious choice with much of the infrastructure already in place. It would certainly cost the state and federal government's far less than a games up north.

 

[Seedsfan]

If Australia is to host the Olympics it has to be in Melbourne. Most of the infrastructure is already here. It would make the games a lot more cost effective.

 

[ioppolo]

Might as well have them in Perth

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Can't see Brisbane hosting the games in my lifetime to be honest. Melbourne is the obvious choice with much of the infrastructure already in place. It would certainly cost the state and federal government's far less than a games up north.

You are talking about September 2021 being the date that a 2028 candidate is selected so any new infrastructure starts being built around 2025. Apart form the MCG - main stadium, most of the other infrastructure in Melbourne or Brisbane has to be upgraded substantially or built to make it modern in that 2025-28 period.

But the bottom line is AOC president John Coates who is an IOC VP and now considered #2 at the IOC, wants it in Brisbane because he knows the IOC will vote for a late August/early September Olympics and Brisbane is a better weather bet than Melbourne and Sydney isnt an iconic enough world city - neither is Melboune to host an Olympics twice like LA 1932, 1984 Paris 1900, 1924, Athens 1896, 2004 Tokyo 1964, 2020 and London 1908,1948 and 2012. What Coates wants, Coates usually gets - and even though he is a true Sydney boy, he wants Brisbane.

 

[Seedsfan]

You are talking about September 2021 being the date that a 2028 candidate is selected so any new infrastructure starts being built around 2025. Apart form the MCG - main stadium, most of the other infrastructure in Melbourne or Brisbane has to be upgraded substantially or built to make it modern in that 2025-28 period.

But the bottom line is AOC president John Coates who is an IOC VP and now considered #2 at the IOC, wants it in Brisbane because he knows the IOC will vote for a late August/early September Olympics and Brisbane is a better weather bet than Melbourne and Sydney isnt an iconic enough world city - neither is Melboune to host an Olympics twice like LA 1932, 1984 Paris 1900, 1924, Athens 1896, 2004 Tokyo 1964, 2020 and London 1908,1948 and 2012. What Coates wants, Coates usually gets - and even though he is a true Sydney boy, he wants Brisbane.

Queenslands weather is s**t always floods or cyclones. When was the last time Melbourne flooded? Back in the 70s. Melbourne also has the tennis centre and Etihad. Brisbane have nothing

 

[damochandler]

Queenslands weather is s**t always floods or cyclones. When was the last time Melbourne flooded? Back in the 70s. Melbourne also has the tennis centre and Etihad. Brisbane have nothing

seriously do you live in queensland

we have have had 2 floods in the last 40 years and cyclones hit around feb march. the rest of the year it hardly rains in brisbane

brisbane won't get the olympics. i still am staggered the gold coast even got the comm games

if they were to get them. they need new everything. chandler needs an upgrade and where would they do the rowing

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Queenslands weather is s**t always floods or cyclones. When was the last time Melbourne flooded? Back in the 70s. Melbourne also has the tennis centre and Etihad. Brisbane have nothing

what a stupid comment. so according to you it floods 365 days a year in Brisbane? I think you need to check the dictionary definition of always. Brisbane is sub tropical so they have floods in December, January February and maybe March. August and September is magnificent weather - the days are between 23 and 28 most days with very little rain. I know I have lived in Brisbane and SE Qld for 4 winters. Why do you think Brisbane are undefeated 12-0 at the Gabba in September? Because they have a massive weather advantage over the southern and western teams. That extra 4 or 5 degrees and humidity is a huge advantage and all 12 finals have been played at night.

 

[Seedsfan]

what a stupid comment. so according to you it floods 365 days a year in Brisbane? I think you need to check the dictionary definition of always. Brisbane is sub tropical so they have floods in December, January February and maybe March. August amd September is magnificent weather - the days are between 23 and 28 most days with very little rain. I know I have lived in Brisbane and SE Qld for 4 winters. Whydo you think Brisbane are undefeated 12-0 at the Gabba in September? Because they have a massive weather advantage over the southern and western teams. That extta 4 or 5 degrees and humidity is a huge advantage and all 12 finals have been plahed at night.

I think it has more to do with when they were playing finals they were a bloody good side.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think it has more to do with when they were playing finals they were a bloody good side.

Sure but in 1996, 1999, 2000 and 2009 they werent all conquering. Why did they use the inserted needles in their arms in 2001 so they could quickly use intravenous drips at half time?? because the September humidity is a big drain on players. Why has the AFL scheduled all 12 Gabba finals either for a Friday or Saturday night? Not one game on Saturday arvo or Sunday arvo? because they want to neutralise the prospect of playing in 25 to 28 degree days.

 

[Seedsfan]

what a stupid comment. so according to you it floods 365 days a year in Brisbane? I think you need to check the dictionary definition of always. Brisbane is sub tropical so they have floods in December, January February and maybe March. August amd September is magnificent weather - the days are between 23 and 28 most days with very little rain. I know I have lived in Brisbane and SE Qld for 4 winters. Whydo you think Brisbane are undefeated 12-0 at the Gabba in September? Because they have a massive weather advantage over the southern and western teams. That extta 4 or 5 degrees and humidity is a huge advantage and all 12 finals have been plahed at night.

Also Melbourne average temperature in september to october is the same as London in June and July yet there weather is deemed good enough for the olympics. Alot of events are held indoors and for the athletes comfort temperatures between 18-21 would be ideal. Melbourne has better infrastructure to deal with the Olympics thus keeping the costs down. Brisbane is an illogical choice.

 

[Seedsfan]

Sure but in 1996, 1999, 2000 and 2009 they werent all conquering. Why did they use the inserted needles in their arms in 2001 so they could quickly use intravenous drips at half time?? because the September humidity is a big drain on players. Why has the AFL scheduled all 12 Gabba finals either for a Friday or Saturday night? Not one game on Saturday arvo or Sunday arvo? because they want to neuttalise the prospect of playing in 25 to 28 degree days.

Most finals are played and night as that is when the TV networks want them. Only 2 finals in the first week are during the day. Normally the home side wins the final as well

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Melbourne isnt London, and London was competing against other Euro cities for 2012. It was going to be London, Paris or the US bidder - think it was Chicago, so weather was a minor issue as it was a northern summer. Whether you like it or not - excuse the pun - weather will be a big consideration when hosting a Summer Olympics in a southern hemisphere winter. 55% of the voting IOC members are from Europe and about 85% from the northern hemisphere. They wont vote for a winter climate. Sydney had * all infrastructure in 1993 when they won the bid and it forced them to build stuff. The Qld taxpayer will bare most of the and they like paying to bring stuff to Qld. John Coates has said weather matters, he is steering the AOC to accept Brisbane as the Oz bidder and being #2 at the IOC, he knows both Sydney and Melbourne arent considered great enough World cities to get a second Olympics, but Oz is good enough to get a third games.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Most finals are played and night as that is when the TV networks want them. Only 2 finals in the first week are during the day. Normally the home side wins the final as well

There are 8 finals before the GF - 2 in week 1, and the PF is a day game except for 2004 Brisbane home MCG PF. The AFL has recently turned the Saturday PF into a twilight game. Before 2002 when 7 still had the full rights, one of the semis was played on a Saturday arvo. So I ask the question again, why hasnt Brisbane played approx 1/3 of its finals during the day?? Because the warm September weather and high humidity in Brisbane matters.

 

[Seedsfan]

Melbourne isnt London and London was competing against other Euro cities for 2012. It was going to be London Paris or the US bidder - think it was Chicago so weather was a minor issue as it was a northern summer. Whether you like it or not - excuse the pun - weather will be a big consideration when hosting a Summer Olympics in a southern hemisphere winter. 55% of voting IOC members are from Europe and about 85% from the northern hemisphere. They wont vote for a winter climate. Sydney had **** all infrastructure in 1993 when they won fhe bid and it forced them to build stuff. The Qld tax payer will bare most of the and they like paying to bring stuff to Qld. John Coates has said weather matters, he is steering the AOC to accept Brisbane as the Oz bidder and being #2 at the IOC he knows both Sydney and Melbourne arent considered great enough World cities to get a second Olympics, but Oz is good enough to get a third games.

If we get the olympics it will be federally for the majority and the people will not support Brisbane. We almost got the 96 Olympics and probarly would have got it if the IOC was not bribed to put it in Alanta so we are great enough to get a 2nd Olympics. I cant see Brisbane ever hosting the Olympics full stop if Melbourne is not great enough for a second Brisbane is not great enough for a 3rd. Also Coats is pushing for Brisbane because he is a New South Welshman he knows Sydney will not be able to get the Olympics again soon so he is pushing for them to be in Brisbane as it gets them to Australia and keeps them out of Melbourne. I believe both Melbourne and Sydney will host it twice each before it gets to Brisbane

 

[Seedsfan]

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There are 8 finals before the GF - 2 in week 1 and the PF is a day game except for 2004 Brisbane home MCG PF. The AFL has recently turned the Saturday PF into a twilight game. Before 2002 when 7 still had the full rigbts one of the semis was played on a Saturday arvo. So I ask fhe question again why hasnt Brisbane played approx 1/3 of its finals during the day?? Because the warm September weather and high humidity in Brisbane .atters.

Then why did WCE North play in Perth on a 30 degree day then a few years back if heat is a consideration?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

You dont understand how it all works. The city signs the agreement together with the local Olympic Committee - with the IOC. Because Australian cities dont have the taxing powers of most cities from around the world in either a 2 levels or 3 levels of government countries, the state governments sign up and bare most of the costs and the federal government goes as guarantor. I have a 31st March 2002 document - A report of the financial contribution by the NSW Government to the Sydney 2000 Games - by the Sydney Olympic Co-Ordination Authority a government body - which the Auditor General audited, and his only qualification was the Additional Tax Revenue to the NSW Government. This report states the feds provided $150m for the Olympics and $97.3m for the Paralympics, a total contribution of $247.3m and the net contribution by the NSW government was $1.326bil after estimating they earned $653mil in extra taxes ie payroll taxes, licence duties, stamp duties etc. The feds biggest contribution to the next Oz Olympics will be secuity. Private monies paid for 80% of the main stadium and 100% for the village.and they paid for $145m of other capital works.

 

[Seedsfan]

If we had the Olympics in Melbourne the venues would be
MCG main stadium, Rod Laver Pool, Hisense Velodrom, Margaret Court, MSAC Sate Netball and Hokey centre for the Court sports and Gymnastics, Golf at Royal Melbourne, Rugby and Soccer at Etihad, AMMI Park, Simonds Stadium (maybe also some group games in Ballarat) We need a rowing basin but that is it. I get that money will need to be spent on the Village and refurbishing some of these venues to bring them up to the standard required. I also acknowledge that transport links will have to improve but seeings that we are the most livable city in the world they must not need as much work as others.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

my phone wont let me edit my post it should read the feds contributed $150m for the Olympics and $97.3 for the Paralympics.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Then why did WCE North play in Perth on a 30 degree day then a few years back if heat is a consideration?

Did they know the Saturday night, 8 days before the final when all the top 8 teams had just completed Rd 23 and the AFL set the draw, that it would be 30? what is the average early September Perth day time temperature?? The AFL know Brisbane average is 25-28 range, highish humidity and little rain so they are planning well before Rd 23.

 

[Seedsfan]

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Did they know the Saturday night 8 days before the final when all the top 8 teams had completed Rd 23 and the AFL set the draw that it would be 30? what is the average early September Perth day time tempature?? The AFL know Brisbane average is 25-28 range, highish humidity and little rain so they are planning well before Rd 23.

22 is the average temp in perth