Hopefully Lance Uppercut can follow this up with more as I'm flat out this week (sure a your mum joke fits well there).
Anyway on a private Essendon forum Bruce Francis has been releasing much of what he's researched which has included a copy of the interim report, accesses to some of the material left out of it and interviews with Hird, Dank and others who have remained fairly coyin the public about it.
He has said anyone can republish his work if he gets credit for it so here is his evidence about Hird that calls into question him being the fall guy:
Anyway on a private Essendon forum Bruce Francis has been releasing much of what he's researched which has included a copy of the interim report, accesses to some of the material left out of it and interviews with Hird, Dank and others who have remained fairly coyin the public about it.
He has said anyone can republish his work if he gets credit for it so here is his evidence about Hird that calls into question him being the fall guy:
Bruce Francis said:James Hird’s position on the supplement program:
In May 2011, Essendon chairman, David Evans, chief executive Robson, general manager – football operations, Hamilton, Danny Corcoran, Hird and Mark Thompson decided that Essendon would adopt a more scientific approach to preparation in season 2012.
In October or November 2011, Hird told Dank, Robinson and Dr Reid that any supplement given to players ‘had to be approved by Dr Reid and couldn’t harm the player, and the player had to know what he had been given’.
On, or about, 13 December 2011, Hird had an impromptu chat at the Southport Sheraton Mirage Hotel with Shane Charter and Dank. Charter told ASADA that Dank sought to convince Hird that the use of growth hormones within the AFL was commonplace. Dank then advocated the use of peptides at EFC, claiming they were safe and legal under the World Anti-Doping Code. According to Charter, Hird told Dank that anything used on the Essendon players had to be WADA compliant and approved by Dr Reid
On, or before, 13 January 2012 – Dr Reid became aware that players were being administered peptide Tribulus (oral) and peptide AOD-9604 (injection) without his approval. Dr Reid raised his concerns with Hird about the supplementation program. Hird discussed the matter with Dr Reid and together decided how they would report the matter to ensure both Dank and Robinson complied with his [Reid’s] directive about the supplementation protocols. Hird and Reid decided three things would occur: One, Dr Reid would report the matter to his department head Hamilton. Two, enquiries would be made directly with Dank and Robinson; and third, Dr Reid would write a letter to Hamilton expressing his concerns, and if Hamilton ‘thought it needed to go further, he could take it further up the line of command’.
Shortly after meeting with Hird, Dr Reid spoke to his department head Hamilton about the supplement program. Dr Reid advised Hamilton that he would be writing him a letter outlining his concerns. Hamilton said he immediately raised Dr Reid’s concerns with the Chief Executive Officer Robson. Dr Reid then wrote a letter – which Hird claims not to have seen - as a means of formally documenting the matters they had discussed. From Hird’s perspective, the letter was to be delivered to Hamilton in his capacity as Reid’s department head.
Hird rejected any suggestion that he had instructed or encouraged Robinson to ‘push the edge’. He told ASADA that ‘I have an issue with people who give people illegal products and things that would harm them. My philosophy is as stated there, that any product that goes to a player must not harm them, must be approved by AFL and WADA and the player has to consent to it, and the doctor’s the ultimate final say but – and that was expressed to Dean all the time’.
According to ASADA, Robinson claims to have understood the responsibilities of his role to include the management of the High Performance Department and the oversight of medical staff (doctors and physiotherapists), but not ever take away from their [professional medical] decision making. Stephen Dank, the Club’s Sports Scientist, also reported to Robinson. Although Robinson stated it was part of his charter with Essendon to ‘push the edge’, he understood that this was to occur within WADC guidelines.
Hird claimed he felt sufficiently concerned by Dr Reid’s disclosures that he convened a meeting with Robinson, Dank, Thompson, Reid and Hamilton, where questions were ‘quite aggressively’ put to Dank and Robinson as to why the unauthorised injecting of players had occurred.
Mark McVeigh, a member of the player leadership group, became involved at this stage and subsequently testified to ASADA as follows: ‘So I spoke to Jobe [Watson] and we went up and weasked Jonah [Oliver] to come and take the minutes … and said, “[James] Hird, I reckon it’s important that we have a presentation, that (1) clearly defines what we’re taking; (2) [confirms that] it’s approved by ASADA and WADA and that everything’s above board, and the reasons why you might be given a supplement,” And [James Hird] said, “Yes, that’s very important; let’s get that done.” That was done within two days, and a presentation was provided to us in the auditorium. And that’s when the discussion of the consent forms were discussed in that meeting’.
Hird confirmed his position in respect of Mr Robinson’s proposal via email:
“Sounds good Deano [Robinson], you know my thoughts on supplements.
1. It must not harm the player
2. It must not be illegal (according to WADA and AFL drug guidelines)
3. We must get player consent
As long as we stick to those guidelines and you and Steve [Dank] think it will help us then let’s go for it.”
Between April and August 2012, ‘Suki Hobson told Hird Steve Dank he had some stuff in his fridge he shouldn’t have. She advised Hird to go down and make sure that what he has in his fridge is what he says he has in his fridge.” Hird went [straight] down. “Steve wasn’t there – I went down [again] some time that day to see Steve and said to Steve, “Suki tells me there are things here that shouldn’t be here.” He said, “No, no. No, no, son, it’s – it’s just stuff for Dean [Robinson’s close friend]” and I said, “well get it out of here straight away. I don’t care who it is for, get it out of here.” He said, “I will, son; I’ll get it out of here straight away.” And I know Mark Thompson I know then went down half an hour later and absolutely ripped through him. I reported this to Paul Hamilton
In response to this information Dr Reid convened a meeting between himself, Hird, Thompson, Oliver and Dank. According to Dr Reid, during the meeting Thompson resolutely advised Dank that the injecting of players was to cease:
And I [Reid] can remember Mark Thompson, because [Dank] then did it again, gave some injection to someone and so this might be two weeks later again, and I’ve never heard Mark Thompson yell any louder on the footy field and he screamed at [Dank to stop the injections]’. (915 Dr Reid/ASADA interview 18 February 2012, page 41).
Hird recalled the decision to record Mr Dank’s supplementation of players: ‘We required a database, we wanted things recorded, we wanted to know exactly what was put in place … [and] it was meant to go to Bruce Reid. I don’t know whether it went to Bruce Reid but it was meant to be filled out and given to Bruce Reid … So Dean Wallis was meant to keep a record with respect to – and we subsequently learnt that he has kept a very good record and that was meant to go to Bruce [Reid]
In July 2012, Dr Reid, supported by Corcoran and Hird, asked Evans and Robson to terminate Robinson’s services. Evans and Robson refused on the grounds Essendon couldn’t afford the payout. The Essendon board ratified Evans and Robson’s decision at the august 2012 board meeting.
Let’s not beat around the bush, the Great Sandy Desert, Lake Eyre, the Wimmera – all those bits of Australia for whom you write – here: although it wasn’t his responsibility, and although he had no power or right to intervene, Hird acted very responsibly. Any journalist who didn’t discuss all of the above issues obviously had no intention of being fair to Hird. And really, by now, why would you Pat. He’s already severely embarrassed you by still being there.
It’s not your fault Pat that Hird listened to that Sheedy bloke for all those years – Stand Your Ground. And it wasn’t your fault that Dr Reid was able to help Hird stand his ground. The strategy is simple, when those with something to hide, let’s create a nice little legal term to describe them for future reference, when the Hidees start their favourite bullying tactics, you find a good lawyer, a good court, and a list of subpoenas that reads like a Who’s Who of the AFL. The Hidees then settle, literally and legally. I know this has been long, and hard for you, Pat, but we’re nearly there. Just clutch the ticket to that deserted beach, and bear with me a bit longer. And if you think you might have read some of this before, well that’s okay, Pat, a lot of your readers have read a lot of your stuff more than once before, and you get away with it, so why not me.
Bruce Francis said:Some events of 2013:
According to Hird, the Essendon media conference on 5 February 2013 was in response to an imminent announcement by the Australian Crime Commission (ACC) regarding the use of performance enhancing substances in sport:
During his interview with ASADA, Hird contextualised the comments made by him during the media conference:
Hird: …There’s two things – two distinct memories I have: Firstly, I wanted to talk about the fact – I wanted to say that we hadn’t given – I was certain we hadn’t given performance enhancing drugs and I wanted to say it at a press conference, and I was advised if I said that I’d look stupid. And Gillon McLachlan was very strong in saying to me, “You can’t say that because it won’t be right.” I said, “Well, I want to say it.: I was talked out of saying that. And then it was advised to me by [Elizabeth] Lukin, the media manager, that I should accept ultimate responsibility. I should say whatever – I can’t even remember what I said, but ultimately I’m the one responsible …
Hird: My personal view is that the football club has a duty of care to its players and I am partly responsible for that duty of care.
ASADA said Ms Lukin has been asked on a number of occasions (directly and through her solicitor) to comment on Mr Hird’s allegation that his ‘acceptance of full responsibility’ was based on her advice. To date, Ms Lukin has not sought to rebut Mr Hird’s claim. She will however, not escape future scrutiny. I wonder if they call them subpoenas because they can torpedo their way almost anywhere.