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My goodness how many times has he been asked about his trip to USA? I think most people would agree with the names he mentioned as the best he has played with: Scarlett, then Enright, Gary. He and Johnson wouldn't be far behind too.
 

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Any one get a copy of last weeks 1.5hr Gary Ablett Snr footy flashbacks special? I turned on not knowing it was on and only saw the last 5 mins. Wanting to get a copy if anyone has a copy? Let me know if you do. Cheers
 
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Scott was on Footy Classified tonight.

Not revelations really. I would have asked more in depth questions.

Scott says Bradshaw cleared Allen to play even though.
He does not see it as his role to query the doctors! On the other hand he says the AFL should not glossed over the incident. Every player should lay on the ground if they get a head knock, especially Allen given his history.

Stats shown average losses of 4 games is 55 points
They have a crack to win the game and therefore open themselves up.

He says they play badly interstate. This is a patten over the last few seasons and they are trying to address this

Tuff to let Pods go, faith in young players who are injured. Marginal choice to let him go.
Over 5 or 6 years it will be best that they let him go.

Lonergan has had a few average games and his time is coming. Discussion with elder statesman during the season and also preseason.

Lappin integrity should not be questioned over the recent incident.
 
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Not revelations really. I would have asked more in depth questions.

Scott says Bradshaw cleared Allen to play even though.
He does not see it as his role to query the doctors! On the other hand he says the AFL should not glossed over the incident. Every player should lay on the ground if they get a head knock, especially Allen given his history.

Stats shown average losses of 4 games is 55 points
They have a crack to win the game and therefore open themselves up.

He says they play badly interstate. This is a patten over the last few seasons and they are trying to address this

Tuff to let Pods go, faith in young players who are injured. Marginal choice to let him go.
Over 5 or 6 years it will be best that they let him go.

Lonergan has had a few average games and his time is coming. Discussion with elder statesman during the season and also preseason.

Lappin integrity should not be questioned over the recent incident.
Haha -You forgot we pick players based on merit-thought that would be music to the ears of many of us who can't see how some are getting games!
 
I just so happened to switch over when they started talking to him (channel surfing)

There have been a few comments in the review thread about Scott's lack if flexibility when things aren't going our way, but listening to him tonight...

there is some merit in his view that they would rather risk losing by a little more, and as such risk damaging our % in order to give the boys the chance to get back into the match.

He clearly is of the view, and I would say I agree with him that 'shutting the game down' so to speak, in order to limit the damage is kinda like waving the white flag... We give up.
 
Not revelations really. I would have asked more in depth questions.

Scott says Bradshaw cleared Allen to play even though.
He does not see it as his role to query the doctors! On the other hand he says the AFL should not glossed over the incident. Every player should lay on the ground if they get a head knock, especially Allen given his history.

Stats shown average losses of 4 games is 55 points
They have a crack to win the game and therefore open themselves up.

He says they play badly interstate. This is a patten over the last few seasons and they are trying to address this

Tuff to let Pods go, faith in young players who are injured. Marginal choice to let him go.
Over 5 or 6 years it will be best that they let him go.

Lonergan has had a few average games and his time is coming. Discussion with elder statesman during the season and also preseason.

Lappin integrity should not be questioned over the recent incident.
In regards to average games/ end is near, I am pretty sure he was talking about Enright not Lonergan, although both are valid discussions.
 

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I just so happened to switch over when they started talking to him (channel surfing)

There have been a few comments in the review thread about Scott's lack if flexibility when things aren't going our way, but listening to him tonight...

there is some merit in his view that they would rather risk losing by a little more, and as such risk damaging our % in order to give the boys the chance to get back into the match.

He clearly is of the view, and I would say I agree with him that 'shutting the game down' so to speak, in order to limit the damage is kinda like waving the white flag... We give up.
I can understand where scott is coming from on this but at times you have to stem the bleeding and then reload.. 8 goals in a row to the suns and its game over, 4 or 5 in a row and we r still only two goals down and can reload for another crack as the momentum shifts. We dont seem to be playing tempo footy at all, probably a by product of the amount of youth we have in the team atm
 

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He's extremely articulate and comes across as very thoughtful.

I love how he goes about it.

It's too bad that his spiel is always the same and you never see what he says translate on the field. He's a good salesman. I can see why the board chose him. He's good at instilling people with a sense of confidence and trust in him, even when there's little actual reason to do so.
 

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It's too bad that his spiel is always the same and you never see what he says translate on the field. He's a good salesman. I can see why the board chose him. He's good at instilling people with a sense of confidence and trust in him, even when there's little actual reason to do so.

Well he is a premiership coach...

He's not real flexible on gameday and we lack a plan B, but, like players, coaches develop.

He's not perfect but he's a damn good coach imo.
 

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I can understand where scott is coming from on this but at times you have to stem the bleeding and then reload.. 8 goals in a row to the suns and its game over, 4 or 5 in a row and we r still only two goals down and can reload for another crack as the momentum shifts. We dont seem to be playing tempo footy at all, probably a by product of the amount of youth we have in the team atm

I think its exactly that, the sides of several years ago did it PERFECTLY, stemmed the flow by playing keepings off/tempo footy then put the foot down and banged away 4-10 goals in a row to bury a team.
It really is something that requires a lot of experience and leadership to understand the position of the game and exactly how to address the current issues within the game, it isn't something a 20 game player does consistently.
It will come, already we have a few players who show signs of being able to show that kind of nous in Duncan, Guthrie and to a lesser extent GHS.
I can also agree with what he says about risking a lose by attacking and trying to win, I agree that in a way it can fast track a players development (which we desperately need to do) and supporters need to understand that from now games are a learning experience and not a win on our way to finals that it once was.
I still question things the MC committee do, but I can't call Scotty a bad coach, I think he's extremely good, maybe like most he shows some bias at times but everyone does that (Bomber was a shocker for it).
 

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Yeah, that premiership he won with a fully developed list while he was surrounded by experienced staff. That was all him.

I never said it was all him.

How did Buckley go with Mick's fully developed list?

How did Watters do with Lyon's?

Scotty might no be the best coach, but he's far from the worst.
 

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Yeah, that premiership he won with a fully developed list while he was surrounded by experienced staff. That was all him.

How'd it go in 2010?
With the addition of the best player in the game as well.

Well he is a premiership coach...

He's not real flexible on gameday and we lack a plan B, but, like players, coaches develop.

He's not perfect but he's a damn good coach imo.

You will find not many coaches have some all conquering plan B, if they did then questions would be asked why the hell it is plan B and not plan A!
Scottys issues right now are more personal based, he makes changes, I've seen plenty in the last few weeks, the problem is for eg when he needs to lock down on a player he might send GHS or Murdoch or Guthrie to them, inexperienced kids, a few years ago to lock down on the same player they would choose Bartel or Kelly, experienced A grade quality Premiership stars who do everything well.
Moves can be made, but if the cattle aren't up to it then it doesn't come off and people question the coach (which shares blame for under prepared players of course).
Most people who only view "Harry forward!" as the only flexibility in our gameplan either don't watch match ups and structures or don't understand the game.
Although structures are another issue entirely...
 
Yeah, that premiership he won with a fully developed list while he was surrounded by experienced staff. That was all him.
Considering we were written off 2010, had just lost our, and the AFL MVP, it was a huge effort by CS AND HIS TEAM.
Just like now it is CS AND HIS TEAM.
 

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You will find not many coaches have some all conquering plan B, if they did then questions would be asked why the hell it is plan B and not plan A!
Scottys issues right now are more personal based, he makes changes, I've seen plenty in the last few weeks, the problem is for eg when he needs to lock down on a player he might send GHS or Murdoch or Guthrie to them, inexperienced kids, a few years ago to lock down on the same player they would choose Bartel or Kelly, experienced A grade quality Premiership stars who do everything well.
Moves can be made, but if the cattle aren't up to it then it doesn't come off and people question the coach (which shares blame for under prepared players of course).
Most people who only view "Harry forward!" as the only flexibility in our gameplan either don't watch match ups and structures or don't understand the game.
Although structures are another issue entirely...

I find that succesful coaches always seem to have a plan B.

This is not a new issue for us, we struggled with it last season and it's crept into this season, when the chips are down, we...bang it long?

Not going to work.

I'm not sure where you're going with the flexibility examples, who brought up Taylor?

Scotty has proven time and time again that he is slow to adjust on gameday, he will grow and learn but he's got a long way to go in that regard.
 
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How'd it go in 2010?
With the addition of the best player in the game as well.

The Ablett fiasco was a massive distraction and Thompson couldn't come up with a way to counter Collingwood's gameplan throughout the season. By the end of his tenure, Thompson was obviously not performing all that well, either, but the fact remains that he had made that team.

I never said it was all him.

How did Buckley go with Mick's fully developed list?

How did Watters do with Lyon's?

Scotty might no be the best coach, but he's far from the worst.

Buckley shouldn't have been appointed when he was, but I don't think that side was ever really as good as it was hyped up to be, and it was obviously nowhere near as good as the Geelong side of 07-11.

Watters, on the other hand, is completely different. Lyon's recruiting and list management overall during their years at the top had left that club destined to fall. In Lyon's last year, they were sliding, and it was pretty evident that the state of their list meant that they were done as a premiership contender for a while. The remnants of those GF teams wouldn't have another chance at a flag. That's why Lyon jumped off when he did, and the list Watters was left with was in tatters.
I remember that when we were looking for a new coach, the obvious choice to me seemed to be Hinkley. Why we appointed Scott and not him is a question that we, as well as the club, will be asking for years to come.
 

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Sadly, I wish you were trolling.

Bucks took over a superteam, I'm still waiting for them to do something.

St. Kilda have one flag and 26 spoons, I'm sure it's Ross Lyon's fault they've hit the basement in record time...

CS is a premiership coach, deal with it.
 

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I find that succesful coaches always seem to have a plan B.

This is not a new issue for us, we struggled with it last season and it's crept into this season, when the chips are down, we...bang it long?

Not going to work.

I'm not sure where you're going with the flexibility examples, who brought up Taylor?

Scotty has proven time and time again that he is slow to adjust on gameday, he will grow and learn but he's got a long way to go in that regard.

He definitely has a plan B (and C, D, E etc I'm sure), it might not be the most effective in the comp but it's there, it is more about structure and setup, particularly in the middle and forward but you can have the best possible gameplan but if you don't have the players required to execute it it will fall short, which is what is happening I think.
The Harry thing is more pointing to what so many ignorant supporters think our only flexibility is, nothing towards you, just more of a general point.
I can agree with your last point, but slightly different to say the "coaching group has proven...", it isn't just Scottys word and I still think the coaching group is the youngest and least experienced in the comp (atleast it was last year) so like you said they will grow and learn, just like players do.
 

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He definitely has a plan B (and C, D, E etc I'm sure), it might not be the most effective in the comp but it's there, it is more about structure and setup, particularly in the middle and forward but you can have the best possible gameplan but if you don't have the players required to execute it it will fall short, which is what is happening I think.
The Harry thing is more pointing to what so many ignorant supporters think our only flexibility is, nothing towards you, just more of a general point.
I can agree with your last point, but slightly different to say the "coaching group has proven...", it isn't just Scottys word and I still think the coaching group is the youngest and least experienced in the comp (atleast it was last year) so like you said they will grow and learn, just like players do.

It was perhaps remiss of me to say he doesn't have a plan B, I should correct it by saying he doesn't have an effective plan B.

The issue with the cattle is a tough one, perhaps if Scotty's game plan is not suited for our personnel...he should adapt?

You can lead a cow to water, but you can't make it drink.

We have an excellent coaching staff and they need to do some soul searching as do our players.
 
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