Changes for the 3rd test in Adelaide

[JackOutback]

We already have different players for 1 day and T20's so it wouldnt surprise me. But then again would it be different in different places around Australia or the World? I'm guessing the dusk conditions in Adelaide are very different to Brisbane and to Hobart

I don't think there will be pink ball specialists, the best Test players will get picked and deliver the best results. ODIs and T20 require entirely different strategies whereas the day night Test is about adapting to different conditions, pretty much the same as touring.

 

[The_Reaper]

I don't think that 3 matches in differing conditions on different grounds has been enough of a sample to decide if someone is a PBS yet. Both batsman and bowlers will still be adjusting. SOK might have the best record so far but things could change pretty quickly with a few more games

I've definitely heard somewhere that O'Keefe has played three night matches in Adelaide.

Not in a position to confirm this at the moment but it would not be hard to do so

 

[the_interloper]

I don't think there will be pink ball specialists, the best Test players will get picked and deliver the best results. ODIs and T20 require entirely different strategies whereas the day night Test is about adapting to different conditions, pretty much the same as touring.

Michael Clarke was brilliant with the pink balls apparently.

 

[KissKiss]

I've definitely heard somewhere that O'Keefe has played three night matches in Adelaide.

Not in a position to confirm this at the moment but it would not be hard to do so

Yep but how many have the rest of our usual group of test bowlers played? Just think there is a lot to be learned still about who will adjust to the conditions and who won't. Like Rogers and other colour blind players. Will some of our batsman just not play these games as they just can't pick the ball up? They can be great day players but terrible at night with the pink ball. Will we be brave enough to change the line up in that case?

 

[western royboy]

Yep but how many have the rest of our usual group of test bowlers played? Just think there is a lot to be learned still about who will adjust to the conditions and who won't. Like Rogers and other colour blind players. Will some of our batsman just not play these games as they just can't pick the ball up? They can be great day players but terrible at night with the pink ball. Will we be brave enough to change the line up in that case?

Colour blindness amongst men is 1 in 10. I have two sons, both handy little cricketers and surprise surprise bith technically correct. Both are red green colour blind. When you get them to do the testing its stark as they cant see figures or patters that are obvious to me. I will try and find the image of what the pink ball looks like to a colour blind person.

 

[eddiesmith]

I've definitely heard somewhere that O'Keefe has played three night matches in Adelaide.

Not in a position to confirm this at the moment but it would not be hard to do so

He has played them all in Adelaide

Even if Steve O'Keefe does not play this week, he should be able to command a handy fee from Cricket Australia for the title of 'day/night Test consultant'. No one in the squad knows the vagaries of the pink ball or Adelaide quite like O'Keefe, who has bowled, batted and fielded in all three of the floodlit Sheffield Shield fixtures here.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-new-zealand-2015-16/content/story/943087.html

 

[peternorth]

I don't think there will be pink ball specialists, the best Test players will get picked and deliver the best results. ODIs and T20 require entirely different strategies whereas the day night Test is about adapting to different conditions, pretty much the same as touring.

correct. pick the best text XI.

part of me thinks the media are trying to create a new phrase to use.

 

[western royboy]

SACA members have nothing to do with this, it is the SMA.


The pitch has been growing for ages. Each Adelaide Oval pitch comes in it's own concrete planter bed that is about 8m deep of soil and grass.

Check your measurements here - "impossible" try 80 cm and Ill believe you.

 

[KissKiss]

Colour blindness amongst men is 1 in 10. I have two sons, both handy little cricketers and surprise surprise bith technically correct. Both are red green colour blind. When you get them to do the testing its stark as they cant see figures or patters that are obvious to me. I will try and find the image of what the pink ball looks like to a colour blind person.

Cool would be interested to see what the ball looks like. Honestly what does the red ball look like too? I think I remember some other players saying they struggled picking the ball up to. Wade maybe? Is he/they colour blind or just struggling a little with the ball. I remember someone saying that guys who are more hand eye players (as opposed to more proper techniques) might struggle a bit more. Any thoughts? Just find it a bit curious to how people adjust to it

 

[Belnakor]

Cool would be interested to see what the ball looks like. Honestly what does the red ball look like too? I think I remember some other players saying they struggled picking the ball up to. Wade maybe? Is he/they colour blind or just struggling a little with the ball. I remember someone saying that guys who are more hand eye players (as opposed to more proper techniques) might struggle a bit more. Any thoughts? Just find it a bit curious to how people adjust to it

plenty of cricketers have been color blind. I think bradman was colorblind. He went ok.

It would be interesting to see how, say, an alistair cook vs a sehwag would go under lights. My guess could be cook would go alot better.

 

[KissKiss]

plenty of cricketers have been color blind. I think bradman was colorblind. He went ok.

It would be interesting to see how, say, an alistair cook vs a sehwag would go under lights. My guess could be cook would go alot better.

Yep but at least one colour blind player has said he cant see the pink ball. To me they dont look that different but to some there must be.

Maybe this will add to the argument for those don't believe Bradman was the best batsman. He never played with a pink ball at night

 

[western royboy]

 

[ManWithNoName]

Uh oh...

 

[eth-dog]

Uh oh...

Well, I'd open with Marsh and bring Handscomb in at 5. Or bring in Cowan.

 

[eddiesmith]

Well, I'd open with Marsh and bring Handscomb in at 5. Or bring in Cowan.

Surely there is another WA batsman they could bring in?

 

[Mr Commissioner]

Left field - but wouldn't mind Bosisto getting a look in.

On the back of 102 vs full strength Vics and a solid 79 against NZ - he'll be in the Aus team in the next 3 years, give him a taste in a dead rubber.

 

[eth-dog]

Left field - but wouldn't mind Bosisto getting a look in.

On the back of 102 vs full strength Vics and a solid 79 against NZ - he'll be in the Aus team in the next 3 years, give him a taste in a dead rubber.

5 FC matches. Will he jump Bancroft, Burns and Warner for that spot?

 

[Mr Commissioner]

5 FC matches. Will he jump Bancroft, Burns and Warner for that spot?

Said left field - he's in better nick than Bangers, Burns plays - Warner potentially out with injury....

 

[The_Reaper]

Lol at Bosisto getting named.

We're not that desperate

 

[eth-dog]

Said left field - he's in better nick than Bangers, Burns plays - Warner potentially out with injury....

He's had 5 FC games and only averages 25. I'm not saying he won't be in the Australian set up in the future, I'm saying he won't get a game now.

 

[Mr Commissioner]

He's had 5 FC games and only averages 25. I'm not saying he won't be in the Australian set up in the future, I'm saying he won't get a game now.

Neither am I, just think these moments can be used a little more strategically - dead rubber, young bloke in form - been apart of the Cricket Aus pathway and has put his hand up to be in the frame.

Not saying it will happen, probably not even considered, but stood up well against Southee & co and took all Pattinson/Siddle/Boyland could throw.

Not going to happen, but wouldn't be the worst outcome for Aus cricket.

 

[western royboy]

Neither am I, just think these moments can be used a little more strategically - dead rubber, young bloke in form - been apart of the Cricket Aus pathway and has put his hand up to be in the frame.

Not saying it will happen, probably not even considered, but stood up well against Southee & co and took all Pattinson/Siddle/Boyland could throw.

Not going to happen, but wouldn't be the worst outcome for Aus cricket.

Let's not get carried away - there was nothing in the track at all - yes he batted well but there's just a few others in the queue before him. Warner batted in the nets - story was a media beat up.

 

[KissKiss]

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Ouch can understand them missing if that is the case

 

[eth-dog]

Neither am I, just think these moments can be used a little more strategically - dead rubber, young bloke in form - been apart of the Cricket Aus pathway and has put his hand up to be in the frame.

Not saying it will happen, probably not even considered, but stood up well against Southee & co and took all Pattinson/Siddle/Boyland could throw.

Not going to happen, but wouldn't be the worst outcome for Aus cricket.

I agree, but use it on a 23-25 year old who has the runs on the board at FC level over a couple of seasons. For example, Peter Handscomb has averaged 55 in Shield Cricket since the start of last season, and we could easily let Marsh open to allow Handscomb a couple of tests to have a taste at 5.

 

[Mr Commissioner]

Let's not get carried away - there was nothing in the track at all - yes he batted well but there's just a few others in the queue before him. Warner batted in the nets - story was a media beat up.

Not carried away - but he did out bat Bancroft/Marsh/Klinger - then backed up against the Kiwis.

Form, in the very short term is there, but yes a few more in front of him, but to dismiss a 288 ball century against a world class attack is a little unfair, citing the pitch.