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Come in this year, will be "fixed" next yearNah. Will definitely come in for this year. Probably means they don't understand how it works any more than we do
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Nah. Will definitely come in for this year. Probably means they don't understand how it works any more than we do
Initial feedback given by clubs in January was the system was far to complicated and only Eddie, Newbold, Gordon gave it a tick (shocking revelation)
So a few months later and after many revisions it's probably still to complicated.
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Nah. Will definitely come in for this year. Probably means they don't understand how it works any more than we do
Does not help that you need to spend 15 minutes working out the calculations.
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If they haven't got it in place before the National Championships, good luck getting it in place this year. They wanted to make changes last year too but it was too late for the players subject to the current system to expected to change systems for them to adjust.
Any changes would have to be subject to the 2016 Draft, NOT this years.
Any changes would have to be subject to the 2016 Draft, NOT this years.
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That means Mills will go at number 4 or 5. Darcy Tucker is the stand out and the Saints won't have a second thought in taking him, Brisbane and Gold Coast won't s**t in the nest and take another academy player, which means Melbourne and Carlton (who are destined for the bottom 5) will end up picking Keays, Mills and Hopper before getting who ever is next on the list.
My worry is that Carlton are truly as bad as they look, my bottom 5 at the moment is Saints, Carlton, Gold Coast, Brisbane then Melbourne. We need the other academy clubs to sit at the very bottom of the table
I'd like to nominate Pythagorus and Stephen Hawing for our draft team
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As the measures were not agreed to last week (I think they needed 75%) they need to be signed off soon, as they are super complicated.... Otherwise the swans may have an u compromised draft ..
Hahahaha what a knob. He is basically calling all non-academy presidents idiots for agreeing to it. The most self serving person in the AFL.
As the measures were not agreed to last week (I think they needed 75%) they need to be signed off soon, as they are super complicated.... Otherwise the swans may have an u compromised draft ..
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Eddie never highlights inequalities that benefit his club
They must leave those quotes out
They must leave those quotes out
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LOL. There's even been talk that Aish may go home to SA, what hope do the Lions have if they can't even hold on to high draft picks when they are entitled to them. Yes it's an unequal draft, unequal in favour of the heartland states and the academies were meant to fix that. Can't believe people still listen to this flog.
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Maybe it's just me - but I don't find it complicated. I think the carry over of points into the next draft could be seen as complicated, but in general, I think it's a good solution. 25% discount seems a touch light for such a big academy investment.
Sydney are damned either way here, possibly from their own doing. It's going to be very interesting if the discount is watered down to 10-15%, then it obviously makes little sense to continue the academy from a purely competitive perspective IMO. If Sydney withdraw from the academy - then there's going to be an army of people claiming that Sydney were never about developing the game. If they keep it open, then they'll claim they're still rorting the system since they cried wolf when it was cheap, yet still kept it when its essentially no competitive benefit.
From an economics perspective, the reason any organisation does anything is to produce net positive value. If the NPV all starts flowing to the other clubs, then it's time to close the operation. The quandry Sydney find themselves in is that they must gain an advantage, albeit slight, in order to ensure it remains open, which implies an AFL sanctioned inequality in what is supposed to be an equal competition. You have to put aside all the other inequalities traditional markets benefit from because they're simply not as measurable as the academy is - that's what makes this argument so raw. Fixturing, MCG grand finals, home grounds, father/sons, travelling, go home factors, cost of living, sponsorship markets, stadium deals etc. aren't as easy to measure against each other as draft picks advantages.
There is only one solution to this whole mess. The AFL must run the academies. They must find the money and the sponsorship. That means AFL has to stump up nearly $5-6M annually to support this infrastructure including paying the northern clubs to access their facilities. Sydney and others would strongly argue for a fair chunk of the $5-7M each spent to date since it's just about to pay-off under the sanctioned rules and they've been stripped at the cashier (see Mills).
Either this or remove themselves completely from the National Draft. Even then - if the club is successful at this, it would be hit with the same arguments we're hearing now, so that's not a long term fix.
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And on a side note, as indicated at the bottom of the article, our plans to improve equalisation at Collingwood has resulted in some of our boys testing positive to prohibited substances! But that's not important!
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Giants CEO comes out in defence of the academy.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ed...-play-a-key-role/story-fndv8lf1-1227339105417
Love the last paragraph:
Over a decade ago McGuire pushed the case for the removal of the Brisbane Lions player retention allowance.
With the Lions rooted to the bottom of the ladder and seemingly in crisis, remarkably McGuire has this week hailed the removal of the assistance as a success for the competition.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ed...-play-a-key-role/story-fndv8lf1-1227339105417
Love the last paragraph:
Over a decade ago McGuire pushed the case for the removal of the Brisbane Lions player retention allowance.
With the Lions rooted to the bottom of the ladder and seemingly in crisis, remarkably McGuire has this week hailed the removal of the assistance as a success for the competition.
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Haha. Funny, but, so accurate.
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I am so glad someone pointed this out. Right now even the AFL admits that Queensland football is in crisis and people have to remember that Eddie is largely the cause of it for the Lions.
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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/vfl-into-afl.1096382/
Threads like this where it turns into look at all the kids recruited from victoria, stuff all from nsw and queensland, and lots of them are scholarships and dont make it
Well derr dickheads thats what the academies are there for but you all whinge about them
Threads like this where it turns into look at all the kids recruited from victoria, stuff all from nsw and queensland, and lots of them are scholarships and dont make it
Well derr dickheads thats what the academies are there for but you all whinge about them
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Something about NSW and QLD having > 50% of the population and contributing 10% of the draftees.
Then again the average person is quite stupid.
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