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Chinese Super League - will it ever be an elite league?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • No

    Votes: 39 78.0%
  • Total voters
    50

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Cooldude said:
Rest assure we'll always make sure we're still a bigger football power than they are ;)

I think they can buy themselves a spot in the World Cup with some under the table cash anyway so there's no worries there
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Well if Qatar can do it. : tongue in cheek :
 
They'll get there.
No question about it.
China wants to be seen as a sporting power. Look at their upturn at the olympics.
It's been a steady increase and an upward trends at not only the summer olympics, but also the winter olympics.
That money, that population, the elite standards we know they'll force?
It'd take a sudden change in government or WW3 to stop them becoming a footballing power.
 
Dirty Bird said:
They'll get there.
No question about it.
China wants to be seen as a sporting power. Look at their upturn at the olympics.
It's been a steady increase and an upward trends at not only the summer olympics, but also the winter olympics.
That money, that population, the elite standards we know they'll force?
It'd take a sudden change in government or WW3 to stop them becoming a footballing power.
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The US said the same thing when they hosted the WC in 1994. They are still not at the level of being a superpower. China won't be in the QFs of a World Cup in the next 20 odd years
 
WorldCup2022OZ said:
The Chinese league's main purpose will be a place where European clubs can flog dud signings & still get good money for them.
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Seems like other clubs are learning from Daniel Levy since Paulinho was shipped off there 6-7 months ago for like 10m
 
WealstoneRaider said:
The US said the same thing when they hosted the WC in 1994. They are still not at the level of being a superpower. China won't be in the QFs of a World Cup in the next 20 odd years
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A) Look at USA's improvement. Before 1990 they had failed to make the world cup for 40 years! They've made it every year since and more often than not reaching the knockout stages
B) Look at the fan interest in the US today come world cup time. It's probably overtaken the olympics in interest in the US now, and if the USA actually got on a roll in the knockout stages. Might very well get bigger fan interest than the Super bowl.
C) Look at the different alternatives. Both China and USA have the attitude to be the best at everything, but the US have a much larger plethora of sporting options. Basketball and American Football still both dwarf Football locally with talent being pushed there instead. There's going to be less sports in China taking away from the talent pool so China will get a higher percentage of their sporting prodigys heading down the Football path, and with that population it will be enough to become a power.

The best the US (and Australia as well) can hope for is to reach the England level. Certainly a class above most, but will require the perfect storm to actually win it all.
 
Dirty Bird said:
A) Look at USA's improvement. Before 1990 they had failed to make the world cup for 40 years! They've made it every year since and more often than not reaching the knockout stages
B) Look at the fan interest in the US today come world cup time. It's probably overtaken the olympics in interest in the US now, and if the USA actually got on a roll in the knockout stages. Might very well get bigger fan interest than the Super bowl.
C) Look at the different alternatives. Both China and USA have the attitude to be the best at everything, but the US have a much larger plethora of sporting options. Basketball and American Football still both dwarf Football locally with talent being pushed there instead. There's going to be less sports in China taking away from the talent pool so China will get a higher percentage of their sporting prodigys heading down the Football path, and with that population it will be enough to become a power.

The best the US (and Australia as well) can hope for is to reach the England level. Certainly a class above most, but will require the perfect storm to actually win it all.
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Team sports are embedded in American culture though. Sport is almost as important as academic excellence in college. Soccer mom phrase comes from the states.

It's a cultural thing for China, not a monetary issue. You can throw all the money you want in China and nothing will happen until there's a cultural change. China has pumped huge money into the game since the 2002 WC but has gone backwards if anything of recent times and can't even beat the democracy of Hong Kong.
 
WealstoneRaider said:
The US said the same thing when they hosted the WC in 1994. They are still not at the level of being a superpower. China won't be in the QFs of a World Cup in the next 20 odd years
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I think there is a very good chance China will host a WC soon, so automatic qualification.
 

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Teixeira set to sign for Jiangsu Suning, it's safe to say Spiranovic and Saisbury will have their hands full....
 
WorldCup2022OZ said:
They are similar in terms of soccer and team sports in general not being important in both cultures. China has far less registered players than Japan despite massive amounts of money being pumped into the game in China for the last 10 years. No amount of money can change Chinese culture that's been embedded for decades. Academic success is the most important thing to Chinese parents.

I don't see the Chinese national team winning the Asian Cup again in my lifetime. Australia, Japan, S Korea & Iran are far too strong. Also China are not a sporting powerhouse at all - they are good at individual sports and not much else. Plus they've already been pumping huge amounts of money into football in China for the last 10 years already - something you ignore.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Top 5 all time in Olympic gold - but not a sporting powerhouse

#Liverpoollogic

Also up until 2002 they had played in as many world cups as we had you ignorant wally
 
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