Classic Wrestling Thread (60s 70s 80s 90s 00s)

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Loved the Chris Jericho heel days from WCW.

My favourite instance was when he ended "Goldberg's" streak, by getting a midget dressed as Goldberg to come out (with full entrance etc) before beating the hell out of him and pinning him

From memory, he even pulled the midget on top of him just so he could "kick out" of a Goldberg pin :p
 

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It's funny, because Jericho talks pretty candidly in his second book about how badly he messed up his early run in the WWF, but I watched through it all recently and you know, it's very entertaining stuff. Even his run as co-holder of the IC belt with Chyna is good TV, despite going probably a month too long.

I still can't believe he got in trouble for calling the Undertaker boring in his second promo. It's not that I can't believe the Undertaker would be upset about that, but I can't believe he was just given free reign to go out and say whatever he liked. Surely someone would have been telling him to go out and say that, right?
 
It's funny, because Jericho talks pretty candidly in his second book about how badly he messed up his early run in the WWF, but I watched through it all recently and you know, it's very entertaining stuff. Even his run as co-holder of the IC belt with Chyna is good TV, despite going probably a month too long.

I still can't believe he got in trouble for calling the Undertaker boring in his second promo. It's not that I can't believe the Undertaker would be upset about that, but I can't believe he was just given free reign to go out and say whatever he liked. Surely someone would have been telling him to go out and say that, right?
Yeah his debut and early years in WWE were great! I honestly didn't know that he got in trouble for that promo. Not sure why though, since it's his character to make jokes about other wrestlers.
 
He got in trouble for it because it's one thing to make fun of a wrestler for their character traits, but by telling everyone that one of the WWF's top stars is boring (and he had just finished cutting a horribly boring promo at the time) it just makes viewers want to switch the channel.

The Attitude Era Podcast give a hilarious summary of the Undertaker promo here (by the way, if you're reading this thread and you're not listening to the Attitude Era Podcast, you really should be because it's absolutely brilliant):



Honestly, when I first saw the promo, I mistakenly assumed that The Undertaker had been given a deliberately boring promo just to give Jericho something to say, hahaha.

The bigger issue was that Jericho had a reputation for being arrogant when he first came over. In his second book he attributes this to him coming from the WCW system where you didn't talk to anyone, because everyone was out to stab you in the back. He kept up the same practice in WWF, where it just made him look like he thought too much of himself to socialise.


He also got in trouble for his debut promo because of the strange facial expressions he pulled at the end, and even the hair-do. Even though it was entertaining, the sense was that they'd brought Jericho in to be a main-event heel, and he was delivering the same comedy act he had done in WCW, which was much more suited to a midcarder instead. It's a pity because I absolutely adored him at the time, I'd just gotten into wrestling and he was immediately my favourite. And really, go forward only a few months and you have Kurt Angle being completely adorable as an utter dork, and yet he gets over just fine as a main event heel. I think Jericho was just a bit ahead of his time as a character.

Fortunately, by mid-2000 he was well and truly in the "good books" with the WWF.
 
Great build up, massive pop and WWE didn't spoil it like they do these days!!

People really need to stop using this phrase when its not applicable (which is the majority of the time its used).

How on earth is 'spoiling' (aka hyping or promoting) a debut something exclusive to 'these days'?
 

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