C'mon Ed...

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And finally, before I retire to my ancient slumber...

None of you has raised issue with moving the Pies the Brisbane. Because the "biggest club in the land" shouldn't
(a) take umbrage at being used to market the game and
(b) can only benefit the whole league, surely?

*toodles*
 

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I still don't get why they can't be AFL funded/run academies.
Firstly, it would be cheaper for the teams to run the academies. They have the personnel to actually carry out the tasks like the training, access to grounds, equipment, specialists etc. For the AFL to set this up and run it would be overly complicated.

Secondly, the clubs can use the Academy as a way of promoting themselves to the local community. It is in the club's interest to get new players involved in Aussie Rules from a junior level all the way to the top and have the local teams as a focal point of that interest. Not all players will be AFL stars or even play in the senior teams, but they may become fans of the game and the local teams, boosting support.

It is in the national interest to get more players from Qld and NSW, both from the point of view of deepening the talent pool and providing these states with some home-grown talent who might stick around. Them getting a first choice pick is peanuts to what it will do for the national competition as a whole.
 

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You blokes created us, now you have to deal with us.

Imagine if everyone had that attitude. Would not be too dissimilar to someone who has never left home and asking mum and dad for allowance rather than doing something about it.

Brisbane will never be taken seriously as a club until they can look after themselves. In the meantime, they can ask for assistance and whinge about "Ed" but they will be perennial basement dwellers like they have already over last decade.
 

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For someone who claims to only care about the game, Eddie is a particularly selfish and narrow minded individual.
I had to laugh when Ed brought up the Lions *again*. So much bitterness which, honestly, I don't see from any Pies fan I know. Safe to say, the Lions are right where Eddy wants them right now, and he still ain't letting up! Sad.

Equalisation measures for non-traditional AFL state teams are a must. Academies are a great idea. Only the short-sighted or the hopelessly conflicted would say otherwise.
 

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Jesus, 6 hours later and all you pro-Ed crusdares still haven't argued much of anything to counter my statements.

1. if the Pies are SO BIG then they could (and should imo) play their games where the AFL needs to develop a following. C'mon guys, you are all telling me that AFL is THE GAME up here, so bring it on! If what you say is true, Pies v Weagles at the Gabba should draw as many as the Lions....or do you secretly fear an empty stadium....?

2. Fairness and Equality aren't the same.

All of your other posturing is similar to lemmings as they charge forward blindly following the one in front....
 
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I still don't get why they can't be AFL funded/run academies.

because blokes like mcgurie blew up about the amount of AFL funds being spent on the NEAFL, claiming the traditional areas were being neglected.

also a key part of the academies is to expose the kids to coaches and the footy clinics, in NSW and QLD this can only come from an AFL club because their certainly isn't the structure and frame work to support the venture.

those in the South first complained that not enough was being done to produce talent up north, that the number of players entering the draft was too low.

the AFL tried to get all clubs to develop kids, through the scholarship program. Those in the south neglected it and only took players that were already playing footy and yet still cried about the number of players from the north, something has to be done, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
The AFL then took over the state leagues in the North and started to develop them, The South complained about the amount of money being spent on expansion areas. The AFL then came up with a solution to the next phase, Which would hopefully stop the souths bitching. Have the northern clubs fund and run the academies. this way nobody would complain about AFL investment except now the south complain that the north are hoarding talent.

the fact is when you break it down, Each academy costs about $2 million per annum to run out of the northern clubs using the Staff and facility's that the northern clubs have.

If the AFL is take over and run them independently that's a minimum of another $8 million dollars (in all likelihood the costs would increase due to the fact the AFL would need its own people completely separate to the clubs plus access to training facilities) which has to spent on the evil northern rugby playing heathens, which could be better spent protecting the innocent southern angels from being seduced into the debauchery of soccer.

the South are like that mob from bear tax episode of the Simpsons. You want more Players to come from the North, But you complain about about every single initiative aimed at trying to do just that.

you want the programs, you don't want to pay for the programs and you don't want those who are prepared not only to pay for, But to run programs to get anything out there investment.
 
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Issac Heeney should have been a top 3 pick, instead he went to a Grand Final team at pick 19.

But yeah, nothing wrong with academies at all. Its all very fair.
You want fairness give up the Father/Son rule.
 
Maybe, I do like that rule though as it is great for tradition.

Academies offer nothing like that.
And Academies are great for developing the future of the game in new areas.

The Father/Son rule offers nothing like that.
 

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I still don't get why they can't be AFL funded/run academies.
They should and the players should be in the national pool be but I get why they aren't. It's simply to give more chance of success to target markets.
 
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because blokes like mcgurie blew up about the amount of AFL funds being spent on the NEAFL, claiming the traditional areas were being neglected.

also a key part of the academies is to expose the kids to coaches and the footy clinics, in NSW and QLD this can only come from an AFL club because their certainly isn't the structure and frame work to support the venture.

those in the South first complained that not enough was being done to produce talent up north, that the number of players entering the draft was too low.

the AFL tried to get all clubs to develop kids, through the scholarship program. Those in the south neglected it and only took players that were already playing footy and yet still cried about the number of players from the north, something has to be done, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
The AFL then took over the state leagues in the North and started to develop them, The South complained about the amount of money being spent on expansion areas. The AFL then came up with a solution to the next phase, Which would hopefully stop the souths bitching. Have the northern clubs fund and run the academies. this way nobody would complain about AFL investment except now the south complain that the north are hoarding talent.

the fact is when you break it down, Each academy costs about $2 million per annum to run out of the northern clubs using the Staff and facility's that the northern clubs have.

If the AFL is take over and run them independently that's a minimum of another $8 million dollars (in all likelihood the costs would increase due to the fact the AFL would need its own people completely separate to the clubs plus access to training facilities) which has to spent on the evil northern rugby playing heathens, which could be better spent protecting the innocent southern angels from being seduced into the debauchery of soccer.

the South are like that mob from bear tax episode of the Simpsons. You want more Players to come from the North, But you complain about about every single initiative aimed at trying to do just that.

you want the programs, you don't want to pay for the programs and you don't want those who are prepared not only to pay for, But to run programs to get anything out there investment.

Long post side steps the issue. Brisbane had a salary cap allowance and won three flags, Sydney have a salary cap allowance and have won two flags and been in finals for almost two decades without bottoming out. GWS and GCS have had massive start up concessions.

Now the salary cap allowances are coming back to equality, the same clubs want another leg up on the other clubs through the academies. It's a continued narrative of demanding an onfield advantage which not surprisingly annoys the rest of the competition. Without the salary cap stuff, perhaps the academies would be ok, but they are linked in perception and therefore reality.
 

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For someone who claims to only care about the game, Eddie is a particularly selfish and narrow minded individual.
He doesn't claim to only care about the game. He does claim to care about the game and he also claims to care so much about Collingwood he stepped up in 1999 when the club was as the bottom be of the ladder and losing $1m+pa to become the unpaid president.
 
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