Collingwood's decline

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I just think where was common sense in all of this? yes the succession plan was constructed in 2009 one year before Collingwood would win the flag but surely after reaching back to back Grand Finals you come to a compromise and try to resolve the situation with Mick and Buckley and perhaps delay it a year or two and just see what happens?

Main priority should of been the Collingwood football club not trying to oust a coach to put in a favourite son with no experience.

Exactly right.....
 

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end of a super era, they have all the facilities, cash, resources and stuff and did well to snag the 1 flag in the 20 odd years well done

buckley can draw on all his success as a player as reshapes the side
On your last sentence, how the * did Roos and Clarkson get coaching jobs? Terrible decisions.
 
Buckley has not by a long shot headed up the utter balls-ups seen at the other two clubs.

His numbers are not flattering and are trending steeply downwards:
Pies Home and Away win/loss % with Finals in brackets :
2011 under Malthouse 88% (67%),
2012 - 68% (33%),
2013 - 61% (0%), and
2014 - 53% and currently sitting outside top 8
 
His numbers are not flattering and are trending steeply downwards:
Pies Home and Away win/loss % with Finals in brackets :
2011 under Malthouse 88% (67%),
2012 - 68% (33%),
2013 - 61% (0%), and
2014 - 53% and currently sitting outside top 8
After our last period of contending (2002-03) we dropped to 13th in 2004 and then 15th in 2005. Yet this is constantly ignored :confused:
 
His numbers are not flattering and are trending steeply downwards:
Pies Home and Away win/loss % with Finals in brackets :
2011 under Malthouse 88% (67%),
2012 - 68% (33%),
2013 - 61% (0%), and
2014 - 53% and currently sitting outside top 8
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He is doing alright, only in his third year with probably the most frustrating injury list for 2 years running.
 
Strange thing is, they were one of the younger premiership teams at the time, yet they've had a fair changeover of their side since then.

Yeah, although Collingwood have a bright future with lots of talented youngsters, the question is should they have gone the rebuild so early?

Buckley inherited a list that had played in 2 GF's with plenty of the core players being quite young...i think he should have built on the team he had like Hawthorn and Geelong rather than the overhaul the teams gone through.

Unless he was after too much money, getting rid of Dawes was a mistake...he's better at the second forward role than Lynch and White.
 

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Well, considering since their 2011 GF they have lost Shaw, Maxwell, Thomas, Johnson, Brown, Didak, Jolly, Krakouer, Davis, Dawes, Wellingham...Swan and Ball have both lost their fitness and are so not as effective. Fasolo, who was an up and comer around that time, has also had a couple of seasons affected by injury.

They have added Kennedy, Broomhead, Grundy, Scharenberg, Adams, Freeman, Langdon, Thomas and Frost to their list in that time (I think - maybe some of those had just done their 1st year). N.Brown to come back into the side having been injury affected.

Inevitable drop. Drafting well at the moment. Won't be down for long. They have added Young and Lynch (wow..) through free agency but it's not long until they land an actual big fish through that method.

Yeah but they decided to move on most of those players themselves so its their own decision
 
Yeah, although Collingwood have a bright future with lots of talented youngsters, the question is should they have gone the rebuild so early?

Buckley inherited a list that had played in 2 GF's with plenty of the core players being quite young...i think he should have built on the team he had like Hawthorn and Geelong rather than the overhaul the teams gone through.

Unless he was after too much money, getting rid of Dawes was a mistake...he's better at the second forward role than Lynch and White.

Ironically, they would have been better keeping Dawes, and pushing for White as the mobile second ruckman role. Means Reid can stay back, which means their young defenders can get more time to develop before being thrown to the wolves.

A forward line of Dawes, Cloke, White, Elliott, Blair Goldsack, pretty handy
 
Ironically, they would have been better keeping Dawes, and pushing for White as the mobile second ruckman role. Means Reid can stay back, which means their young defenders can get more time to develop before being thrown to the wolves.

A forward line of Dawes, Cloke, White, Elliott, Blair Goldsack, pretty handy
Dawes trade afforded us to draft a potential 10 yr player. Sometimes you gotta give a bit to get a lot.
 
You better cross your fingers, toes, and everything else that the FA rules don't stay as they are for next year.
Let's say the rules stay as they are. What are you putting on the table?
Nothing, if the rules stay as they are we just sign him up as a FA. You will get a 1st round compo pick in return.

EDIT: If you're talking about getting him this year... we would be stupid to try to make a trade. We could just wait out his contract then sign him as a FA and Collingwood will get a compo pick.
 
Yeah but they decided to move on most of those players themselves so its their own decision
Shaw Our decision
Maxwell Retired
Thomas inflated price, taken out of our hands
Johnson retired
Didak delisted. Was finished and not even picked up as rookie
Jolly. Also finished. Mick went for Wood instead of him.
Krak. Was finished. Not picked up
Davis. Our decision. Still no bites.
Wellingham. Went home. 50/50
Brown. retired.
Dawes. our decision.
Our decisions on most were the right call. E.g. Jolly, Didak, Krak, Wellingham, Thomas (cash). Dawes and Shaw were based on longer term prospects and a pretty ruthless. A mistake for this season, probably. I'm not buying into the Dawes hype this year.
 
Yeah, but with a better forward line you might have pushed for another flag by now. What would you prefer??
I don't think we were in contention for a flag after 2011. We had built to the 2010 flag from the 2005 draft. By the end of 2011, it was 6 yrs. we peaked in 2010/11. There was always going to be a decline after that long on the rise. The club can say what they want about premiership windows, but history and reality tends to show something else other than the propaganda clubs feed their supporters. Make no mistake, this is a rebuild.
 
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