Opinion Danyle Pearce, Zac Clarke, Colin Sylvia

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Morabito hasn't done a lot wrong. He doesn't get to pick the team. Should have been given more opportunities ahead of De Boer/Suban IMO.
 

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Playing so many average skilled, same pace, players in the one team against a quick, skilled
opponent, and you will get torched.
We need an injection of run, skill, talent, and improve the gameplan to compete with the best.
The coaching panel need a bake, we should of given A pearce a game this year, upgraded Menagola
for no reason, and had no idea how to look to the future, cover injury, suspension.
Our backline had one tall, no scoreboard pressure, and having so many foot soldiers in the one team,
hurt.
 
blue shark said:
Playing so many average skilled, same pace, players in the one team against a quick, skilled
opponent, and you will get torched.
We need an injection of run, skill, talent, and improve the gameplan to compete with the best.
The coaching panel need a bake, we should of given A pearce a game this year, upgraded Menagola
for no reason, and had no idea how to look to the future, cover injury, suspension.
Our backline had one tall, no scoreboard pressure, and having so many foot soldiers in the one team,
hurt.
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Agree with some of your points, but A Pearce is even skinnier than Tanner was when he was monstered in his one AFL game.

After this preseason, hopefully, it will be a different story.
 
blue shark said:
Playing so many average skilled, same pace, players in the one team against a quick, skilled
opponent, and you will get torched.
We need an injection of run, skill, talent, and improve the gameplan to compete with the best.
The coaching panel need a bake, we should of given A pearce a game this year, upgraded Menagola
for no reason, and had no idea how to look to the future, cover injury, suspension.
Our backline had one tall, no scoreboard pressure, and having so many foot soldiers in the one team,
hurt.
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Seems nothing is going to change. All the same players will either be contracted or offered new contracts. Freo seem to think this squad can do it for them. Have my doubts after what I saw against Sydney and Port. Hopefully, at least they trade a couple.
 
apuchar said:
I agree. There is some doubt that he will ever have the composure to play in finals. He has had some very good games during the year so lets not dismiss his efforts completely.
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Would you like to nominate which games those were?

His 2013 was far better than his 2014.
rgauci said:
The vitriol against Pearce is beyond rubbish. If he was home grown we'd accept his faults much more easily. Mzungu had more crucial clangers and got less of the ball. Fyfe centred the ball to no one. Pav had little impact on the game. Hill missed a handball over the top to Pav. Plenty of errors in the game, if you rewatch the game Pearce was involved in plenty of positive ball movements.
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Pearce killed us. It was obvious to most other watchers. When they were giving out the votes on the Port board, he was scoring 6 points. Tongue in cheek, yes, but even they saw how favourable his performance was to them.
 
Grape Bear said:
Agree with some of your points, but A Pearce is even skinnier than Tanner was when he was monstered in his one AFL game.

After this preseason, hopefully, it will be a different story.
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A Pearce against a lower team wouldn't of made much of a difference to the score, but invaluable to his development. Or Ballard if you
think Alex wasn't ready. I would of liked Elvis rested in games, and the truth is he is on the way out sooner rather than later.
A fit McPharlin in the finals would of been a great send off, if he retires after this year.
 
blue shark said:
A Pearce against a lower team wouldn't of made much of a difference to the score, but invaluable to his development. Or Ballard if you
think Alex wasn't ready. I would of liked Elvis rested in games, and the truth is he is on the way out sooner rather than later.
A fit McPharlin in the finals would of been a great send off, if he retires after this year.
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This mentality leading in to the Saints game is what cost us the win.
 
Tazmania said:
Excellent post.... as his former buddy this year (removed it as it is too embarrassing after the weekend) I watch him extra closely and halfway though the first quarter I knew he was in for a shocker and wanted him subbed. His decision making the last couple of months has been terrible and the turnovers killed us. We don't want him becoming our version of Priddis....eg really hard working, nice guy who gets the ball a lot but invariably causes more damage from his possessions than good.

Pearce overall has a game style that crumbles when the spotlight is on him, around congestion and doing things quickly on reflex he tends to be ok but when he gets a bit of time to think he stuffs it up. He would be better as an inside mid than outside but doesn't have the size for it.
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The Priddis comment is harsh, but quite spot on unfortunately. He works hard, try to win the ball and get quite a bit of the ball also.

My observation is that once he gets the ball, the instinct is to run and kick long. This explains the inside 50 stats and the turnovers. Here's the thing, this is what's good about Danyle, he moves the ball forward fast. The problem is of course that the kick is seldom to our forward's advantage, so it got picked up and rebounded quickly, hurting us more than the good it does.

He'll need to work on his decision making, and to take the short chip forward if he is not sure he can't beat his opponent. Because once he start running and run out of space and time, he can only pump the ball forward, which usually ends bad.


Here's the big question, is it our game plan for Pearce to just run, or is it his instinct?
 
beetz said:
This mentality leading in to the Saints game is what cost us the win.
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We lost that game regardless, an easier home game is when you can introduce a new player. Or use the
sub option, at the end of the day you find out more about your list, and where you are at.
 
blue shark said:
Playing so many average skilled, same pace, players in the one team against a quick, skilled
opponent, and you will get torched.
We need an injection of run, skill, talent, and improve the gameplan to compete with the best.
The coaching panel need a bake, we should of given A pearce a game this year, upgraded Menagola
for no reason, and had no idea how to look to the future, cover injury, suspension.
Our backline had one tall, no scoreboard pressure, and having so many foot soldiers in the one team,
hurt.
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That would be correct if Port were a skilled or quick team. They aren't. They are very much like us except the way they move the ball is different. In reality they have two "speedsters" in their team in Polec and White, the others aren't exactly much faster than any of our players, especially their midfield. We have Hill as a speedster and Ballantyne as the forward speedster. We were cut apart from our own bad kicking and Port nailing everything including boundary line shots often.
 

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Arcassius said:
we won what, 29 of 31 games over 2 years at home? we lose one at home and it's the end of the world - a bit of context. We lost it on the night, and there is scope to improve, but we're not nearly as bad as people seem to suggest
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Not nearly as good as some people believe either.

The context is the game that was lost was a final, which saw the team bow out earlier than it should have.

Every other team in the league has scope to improve.
 
clogged said:
Not nearly as good as some people believe either.

The context is the game that was lost was a final, which saw the team bow out earlier than it should have.

Every other team in the league has scope to improve.
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Yeah not nearly as good either. There's no guarantee that the team 'should have' gone deeper into finals, outside of our own high expectations. Ask Geelong last season.
 
Arcassius said:
Yeah not nearly as good either. There's no guarantee that the team 'should have' gone deeper into finals, outside of our own high expectations. Ask Geelong last season.
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Preliminary finals should be a minimum for teams that finish top four. If not something has gone seriously wrong. That isn't based on fan expectations but win-loss ratio of top four teams in semi finals since 2000.

You can't isolate the semi final as being a once off. It unfolded similarly to the two previous losses at Subiaco, where Freo had the early running and were overrun in the last. Both North in 2014 and Essendon in 2013 were lost in the same manner.
 
clogged said:
Preliminary finals should be a minimum for teams that finish top four. If not something has gone seriously wrong. That isn't based on fan expectations but win-loss ratio of top four teams in semi finals since 2000.

You can't isolate the semi final as being a once off. It unfolded similarly to the two previous losses at Subiaco, where Freo had the early running and were overrun in the last. Both North in 2014 and Essendon in 2013 were lost in the same manner.
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I'd Say Johnson, McPharlin, Balla and Silvagni being outs with injury and Barlow playing injured qualifies as something seriously gone wrong.
 
The Black Sheep said:
I'd Say Johnson, McPharlin, Balla and Silvagni being outs with injury and Barlow playing injured qualifies as something seriously gone wrong.
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Well you can fall in the Mark Harvey trap of blaming injuries and thinking it ends there, or you can look at why the side scored 6 goals 11 in the first half, then let the opposition turnaround the score by 52 points.

Next year the team will have injuries. Good sides overcome them. The fact that they came at the wrong time of the year is probably based in part in the fact the side had to keep playing sore players in order to make four. Beat North and St Kilda like the team should have, Freo finish second, and guys like McPharlin, Johnson etc could have been given rests when they got niggles instead of played through them.

More worrying is that the side still can't convert when it has full field dominance. That keeps happening regardless of personnel.
 
clogged said:
Preliminary finals should be a minimum for teams that finish top four. If not something has gone seriously wrong. That isn't based on fan expectations but win-loss ratio of top four teams in semi finals since 2000.

You can't isolate the semi final as being a once off. It unfolded similarly to the two previous losses at Subiaco, where Freo had the early running and were overrun in the last. Both North in 2014 and Essendon in 2013 were lost in the same manner.
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that would be the normal expectations but the gap between the top 6 this year was rather close ... i wouldn't be surprised if it is a North vs Port GF
 
Sydney struggled to overcome their injuries last year when they ran into us. Port are us from last year, we are Sydney.

Our season was set up much earlier than just the finals series - and you're right, if we had won the StK and North games then we could have looked at easing off into finals and things now may have turned out differently.
 
UFO Tatsu said:
that would be the normal expectations but the gap between the top 6 this year was rather close ... i wouldn't be surprised if it is a North vs Port GF
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I would be.

But as you say, the gap has closed. Port were certainly better than Geelong, and as it turned out so were North. Both turned out better than Freo.

I expect Port to be top four all next year, and North are in the right age group to be there as well. Does anyone really expect that Freo can rock up next year and be top four again?

I would suggest that for Freo to be top four again, a fairly thorough review of every player, their roles, and the game plan is needed. Can't simply assume that injuries were the sole reason for missing out. Those same players might be injured again next year. Michael Johnson has been injured two finals series in a row, and McPharlin may never play again. Ballantyne walks a fine line between injuring himself and getting suspended.
 
How long is Sylvia contracted for?
 
Arcassius said:
Sydney struggled to overcome their injuries last year when they ran into us. Port are us from last year, we are Sydney.
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Freo had a reasonable number of injuries going into last year. Sandilands had to wear a helmet in the finals series. Johnson didn't play until the prelim. McPharlin hadn't played in 10 weeks before being a late call up against Geelong.

When you win you tend to forget about injuries.

The reality is, the side so rarely played quality football this year, and this extended into the finals. Strangely the side's best football came against the Hawks, so it's a pity that meeting doesn't happen again in finals.
 
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