You provided no facts - and what % of those are at WCE? But you just don't get it - this isn't even about WAFL clubs. How many players have we recruited from QLD, NSW and Tasmania? There are over 50 NSW players currently in the AFL, many of them very good. There is absolutely no reason why we take so many chances on Claremont players other than human bias.
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You provided no facts - and what % of those are at WCE? But you just don't get it - this isn't even about WAFL clubs. How many players have we recruited from QLD, NSW and Tasmania? There are over 50 NSW players currently in the AFL, many of them very good. There is absolutely no reason why we take so many chances on Claremont players other than human bias.
I'd be keen to see a breakdown of our last 10 years of WA draft picks, per WAFL club, with a binary assessment (i.e. Boom or Bust) attributed to each.
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It's been documented elsewhere that we take more WA-based players than we would be expected to, even allowing for home-state bias. I don't argue with that. What I'm saying is that within that, we don't take any more players from Claremont (or East Freo) than would be expected given the number of players from those clubs across the league.
The majority of the NSW players would be at GWS and Sydney I assume.
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Fyfe did sign for only 3 years, will be a restricted free agent then and Freo's flag window will be gone. If he hasn't won a flag with them and they are heading to the bottom.
A guy can only dream!!!
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He's contracted at the moment, so if he nominated us GWS can still refuse to trade him to us if we didn't give them what they want. From what was speculated, it sounded like we were given a very fair offer for Brown when he requested to go to the Saints, yet we still refused the trade because he was contracted, and we valued him highly.
Based on output pick 11 (or whatever we have) would be fair. However my guess is GWS would ask for more based on his inherent value as a former pick 2 (which should have no affect, but it does) and the fact he still has a lot of upside given GWS have been s**t his entire career and he's been slowed by injuries.
As for next year when he's out of contract, there's too many factors at play to decide whether our first pick would be enough. We could have pick 18 (unlikely), or Coniglio could have a break out year (much more likely than us having pick 18).
If Coniglio claimed homesickness or something along those lines, depression etc our first pick would do it. The new clubs are asking ridiculous things for some of their players and if we chased coniglio this year rather than him coming out and saying he wanted to go home then it would cost more than that.
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Not sure I'd want him claiming depression unless it was true, in which case I wouldn't trade pick 11 for him.
I still think they'd want more than pick 11 for him, even if he says he wants to leave. GC held onto Caddy an extra year despite him saying he wanted to leave, as did GWS with Tyson. They ended up with reasonable compensation for both those players in the end. They've got so much talent and high picks that they can afford to be stubborn at the trade table.
We aren't that evil, are we?
Ah fair enough. I agree, Coniglio is probably the more realistic/gettable target. I reckon waiting until he comes out of contract is the way to go. Would still cost an arm and a leg though.
Not sure whose right or wrong, but the only thing about this statement is that it doesn't really prove anything. If west coast did have a bias towards claremont players it is likely claremont will have more afl listed players playing, because we will be recruiting them. If there is a trend of more claremont listed afl players than other wafl clubs, excluding those listed at west coast, than your argument is strengthened!!
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That's a fair point.
6 of the 22 Claremont players are at West Coast (MacKenzie, McGovern, McGinnity, Hill, Barrass and Powell), so 16 at other clubs.
6 of the 30 East Freo players are at West Coast (Masten, Sheppard, Yeo, Cripps, Kennedy and Brennan), so 24 at other clubs
3 of 18 Swans players (Naitanui, Newman, Bennell), so 15 at other clubs.
2 of 16 Souths players (Carter and Main) so 14 at other clubs
The other WAFL clubs have less than 15 players floating around. So bottom line is Claremont do seem to produce more than everyone else bar the Sharks, but maybe not by as much as I initially thought.
I've been tipped off to some interesting rumour talk on the freo board.
See here - http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ross-lyon-on-6pr-15-9-discussing-frawley.1077040/
In short, Mitchell to Fremantle, McGovern to Sydney, someone to West Coast.
Probably BS but interesting none the less.
See here - http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ross-lyon-on-6pr-15-9-discussing-frawley.1077040/
In short, Mitchell to Fremantle, McGovern to Sydney, someone to West Coast.
Probably BS but interesting none the less.
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I like the trade personally
Send Anthony McGovern to Sydney and we keep Jeremy with us
Yeah noticed that......
I call BS..and yeah, Anthony?
Fairly certain author is a nuff nuff.
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What do Fremantle have that we'd give up the Gov for?
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don't want mcgovern going anywhere
That thread is stupid, and that comment of McGovern not being enough for Tom Mitchell, get off it Freo flogs, Gov is a star playing AFL while Mitchell is playing reserves and can't crack a game, Gov> Mitchell.
And no Gov isn't going anywhere. No deal. No team would rate Gov as much as we do therefore we get bent over.
And no Gov isn't going anywhere. No deal. No team would rate Gov as much as we do therefore we get bent over.
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My BS detector is off the charts with this stuff.
McGovern just signed a two year deal, he loves it at West Coast and all his family and friends are in Western Australia (South West) and owes the club for the faith they had in his ability. Not to mention Simpson has a man crush on him and forwarded him quickly into the senior side.
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