Health Depression

[lewigie]

Putting it that way, they would definitely support me, they've been amazing. And I've had ceoliac friends in the past, so I know about all the gluten free foods My main problem is that a lot of the foodsd I eat tend to be high in gluten and it's going to be hard to cut those out, that's the main thing I'm worried about. But I'm definitely going to give it a shot, what have I got to lose?

Cut out bread and pasta and see how you feel. Personally I've felt a lot better from cutting those out!

 

[timtamWB]

Cut out bread and pasta and see how you feel. Personally I've felt a lot better from cutting those out!

The good news is, I don't eat pasta much at all.

The bad news is, 90% of my diet is based around bread

I have cut out a bit of the high gluten foods I eat, just small steps, and I think I'm noticing a change. However I'm not sure whether it's just the placebo effect or not.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Does anyone else feel lonely a lot of the time? I don't have depression, I just simply don't, but I feel that real lingering melancholia a lot of the time. Just like someone's let all your air out and it's just you in the world. Maybe a result of too much time on my hands.

 

[Glacier]

Does anyone else feel lonely a lot of the time? I don't have depression, I just simply don't, but I feel that real lingering melancholia a lot of the time. Just like someone's let all your air out and it's just you in the world. Maybe a result of too much time on my hands.

At the moment , yes very much
My partner is 3 weeks away from giving birth, our third
It's a very tough stretch for a woman, they are absolutely over it by now
It's also a very tough time for a man, an extremely lonely time where we are always on egg shells
This will be our last for sure

 

[WilliamBeckett]

Good luck buddy. May you recover soon

 

[Mitho]

Just had a squiz at most of this thread. Some very moving posts, so for that, thankyou.

A couple of weeks ago my wife basically yelled at me and said, something isn't right, lets talk. It was about that time I realised that I'd been stroppy with her and my colleagues, couldn't be ****ed hanging out with my mates at all, basically just not giving a * since around about the start of this year.

The best way to describe it is.. flat. I just feel flat almost all of the time.

I'm glad I've gotten to read some of your experiences and feelings, to realise that there are people a lot worse off than me.
I've improved my diet slightly and started exercising more and really cut back on my alcohol consumption, the flatness is still there, but talking to my wife about it and making those small changes, I feel like I'm moving in the right direction.

Have a 6 month old son who is my everything and just really want to be the best dad I can for him.

Sorry if the post is a little self indulgent, is good to get it out, even in this half assed way.

 

[Run n Spread]

Does anyone else feel lonely a lot of the time? I don't have depression, I just simply don't, but I feel that real lingering melancholia a lot of the time. Just like someone's let all your air out and it's just you in the world. Maybe a result of too much time on my hands.

Lately yeah a bit. A bit odd as I'm not the sort of person who gets lonely but yes that is an apt description of late

Just had a squiz at most of this thread. Some very moving posts, so for that, thankyou.

A couple of weeks ago my wife basically yelled at me and said, something isn't right, lets talk. It was about that time I realised that I'd been stroppy with her and my colleagues, couldn't be ****** hanging out with my mates at all, basically just not giving a **** since around about the start of this year.

The best way to describe it is.. flat. I just feel flat almost all of the time.

I'm glad I've gotten to read some of your experiences and feelings, to realise that there are people a lot worse off than me.
I've improved my diet slightly and started exercising more and really cut back on my alcohol consumption, the flatness is still there, but talking to my wife about it and making those small changes, I feel like I'm moving in the right direction.

Have a 6 month old son who is my everything and just really want to be the best dad I can for him.

Sorry if the post is a little self indulgent, is good to get it out, even in this half assed way.

All the best mate, seems like you have a sense of direction and structure that you can drive through with. Beyond that wouldn't have a fu*&* clue everyone just has to figure out what's best for themselves I guess.

 

[Run n Spread]

Does anyone else feel lonely a lot of the time? I don't have depression, I just simply don't, but I feel that real lingering melancholia a lot of the time. Just like someone's let all your air out and it's just you in the world. Maybe a result of too much time on my hands.

For want of a more detailed answer yes. I have felt lonely lately. Surprising given that I am not the sort of person who gets lonely, in fact at times I much prefer personal space but I do feel very lonely sometimes. Catch 22 thou as I've lately lost patience and am fed up with people's (some) unreasonable expectations and demands and have no desire to spend time conforming to their bulls*&*. So kind of stuck in this loop in a way.

 

[Silent Alarm]

For want of a more detailed answer yes. I have felt lonely lately. Surprising given that I am not the sort of person who gets lonely, in fact at times I much prefer personal space but I do feel very lonely sometimes. Catch 22 thou as I've lately lost patience and am fed up with people's (some) unreasonable expectations and demands and have no desire to spend time conforming to their bulls*&*. So kind of stuck in this loop in a way.

Love hanging out by myself but if anything, I get let down by my own expectation of people and so I prefer not to get angry or upset at them. If you're by yourself, you'll only get angry at yourself, and that's only going to make you a better person

 

[red+black]

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[Engimal]

I've been good for the last month or so and it feels good. Springs on its way too, so hopefully I can ride this happiness wave for a while.

 

[Rainfall]

Hate life so much if honest footy is the only thing getting me through it and that's over in 2 months I may as well be too.

 

[timtamWB]

I've been feeling a bit better over the past month or so. Cutting a bit of gluten out helps a lot, if only I had the self restraint to actually go the whole hog with it

But it feels like things are actually moving in my life for once, like things are happening. I still don't have many friends at all but that's more my fault because I'm scared to take that leap of faith again.

I feel like I'm actually doing something good, something that I know I can do, and surrounding myself with good people and cutting out the negativity for the most part. I'll just wait for a couple of months once my assignments are due and get through that stressful period, and then see how I go moving into the big bad world...

 

[red+black]

As we all know by now, Robin Williams has succumbed. Why? I don't know enough about his personal history, his childhood, his parents, etc. Clearly celebrities with money are not immune.

I'm not sure what I want to say here. What is the answer? What is the secret? If you were him, how do you not get to a point where you take your own life? If you have a less fulfilled life (than a rich celeb) and also are not supremely happy every day, how do you not get that point that Robin did?

Does your past matter? Your upbringing? Is it just a point of not worrying about that which has happened, that which you cannot change, that which you have no control over? How important are friends? Relationships? Having children? Having more than enough money? Or even large enough physical assets?

If you could just have whatever you want, how greatly would that change your life? If you're depressed, would winning 10 million end your depression forever? Maybe we shouldn't be so attached to this thing we call life, be it our own or anyone else's, I don't know.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

As we all know by now, Robin Williams has succumbed. Why? I don't know enough about his personal history, his childhood, his parents, etc. Clearly celebrities with money are not immune.

I'm not sure what I want to say here. What is the answer? What is the secret? If you were him, how do you not get to a point where you take your own life? If you have a less fulfilled life (than a rich celeb) and also are not supremely happy every day, how do you not get that point that Robin did?

Does your past matter? Your upbringing? Is it just a point of not worrying about that which has happened, that which you cannot change, that which you have no control over? How important are friends? Relationships? Having children? Having more than enough money? Or even large enough physical assets?

If you could just have whatever you want, how greatly would that change your life? If you're depressed, would winning 10 million end your depression forever? Maybe we shouldn't be so attached to this thing we call life, be it our own or anyone else's, I don't know.

I don't have an answer, but I can provide my personal experience.

I've thought about taking my life many times, heck, I've even attempted it at varying degrees.

Taking your own life, is not an easy thing. No matter how bad your life is, not matter how bad you want to, it's not easy.

So I can't say I will ever understand what Robin Williams went through in his final moments, nor anyone else who has committed suicide.

But I can't say I'll never be in that position either. I've been close to it, I know how easy it is to succumb to the darkness.

So while I'm in a good state of mind, I enjoy life as much as I can. The last time I had a depressive episode was almost a year now, and it was also the worst.

I can safely say that I'm currently in the best frame of mind I've been in for a while, and that means understanding how to cope with the stressors that life provides, understanding what triggers my depression and anxiety, and ultimately building support networks with not only people around me but also within myself.

I can't say I'm "cured" or I'll never be depressed again. So all I can do is prepare myself the best I can, for the next battle that will ensue. Make sure I'm best equipped to overcome the hurdle of depression again, no matter the obstacle it gives me.

That's really all I can do.

 

[RobbieGray17]

red+black If alcohol was involved it can push you over the edge. I knew a guy that never drank, had depression, got drunk and ran out in front of a truck.

I've been drunk, and had people constantly taking the piss out of me when I'm already down as *, and remember the one time I just wanted to walk into the ocean and not come back. Thank god it was just a thought.

 

[checkraiseulite]

As we all know by now, Robin Williams has succumbed. Why? I don't know enough about his personal history, his childhood, his parents, etc. Clearly celebrities with money are not immune.

I'm not sure what I want to say here. What is the answer? What is the secret? If you were him, how do you not get to a point where you take your own life? If you have a less fulfilled life (than a rich celeb) and also are not supremely happy every day, how do you not get that point that Robin did?

Does your past matter? Your upbringing? Is it just a point of not worrying about that which has happened, that which you cannot change, that which you have no control over? How important are friends? Relationships? Having children? Having more than enough money? Or even large enough physical assets?

If you could just have whatever you want, how greatly would that change your life? If you're depressed, would winning 10 million end your depression forever? Maybe we shouldn't be so attached to this thing we call life, be it our own or anyone else's, I don't know.

There's more to life than money.

 

[red+black]

Reading more about Robin Williams. I think one thing that contributes to the mental state of many men is the financial impost of divorce. Men need to protect themselves in the event of relationship breakdowns. I think men should view BFAs (look it up) as mandatory. The claims of women and judgements of the courts are ridiculous.

 

[Run n Spread]

red+black If alcohol was involved it can push you over the edge. I knew a guy that never drank, had depression, got drunk and ran out in front of a truck.

I've been drunk, and had people constantly taking the piss out of me when I'm already down as ****, and remember the one time I just wanted to walk into the ocean and not come back. Thank god it was just a thought.

Yes true alcohol can have some very nasty consequences. It is not called a drug for no reason. Yet what is the alternative? To force people to live through an undeniable amount of sh(* and anxiety when they are already barely clinging to survival. Why not use booze as a coping mechanism? I know I do sometimes. And it **(* helps to spite what the politically correct say. Just need to do it alone preferably so you don't shoot your mouth off too much or get all confrontational. A doctor who doesn't know you and is not a specialist will not fully grasp what you're saying anyway, just a job to them and prescribe mind altering substances so might as well cut out the middleman and get them cheap.

 

[Run n Spread]

As we all know by now, Robin Williams has succumbed. Why? I don't know enough about his personal history, his childhood, his parents, etc. Clearly celebrities with money are not immune.

I'm not sure what I want to say here. What is the answer? What is the secret? If you were him, how do you not get to a point where you take your own life? If you have a less fulfilled life (than a rich celeb) and also are not supremely happy every day, how do you not get that point that Robin did?

Does your past matter? Your upbringing? Is it just a point of not worrying about that which has happened, that which you cannot change, that which you have no control over? How important are friends? Relationships? Having children? Having more than enough money? Or even large enough physical assets?

If you could just have whatever you want, how greatly would that change your life? If you're depressed, would winning 10 million end your depression forever? Maybe we shouldn't be so attached to this thing we call life, be it our own or anyone else's, I don't know.

Don't know if there is an answer. Look around the world everyone fights through circumstance and sometimes survival is half the job.

Reading more about Robin Williams. I think one thing that contributes to the mental state of many men is the financial impost of divorce. Men need to protect themselves in the event of relationship breakdowns. I think men should view BFAs (look it up) as mandatory. The claims of women and judgements of the courts are ridiculous.

You have a point but need to extrapolate beyond any preconceived notion. Financial difficulties, loneliness, stress and injustice will affect many men (and women) badly no matter what the cause. Identifying potential causes and pitfalls and seeking to protect ones self is a good thing no doubt.

 

[RobbieGray17]

So why is suicide by hanging a common choice?
If you're sensitive about discussing the topic don't read further.

Spoiler

I mean why don't you hear much about gaseous asphyxiation, other than carbon monoxide, which is also relatively difficult to set up. I've never considered it, but If I wanted to go out in a painless way, Id fill the bath with Co2 and be out in an instant. No thoughts, no pain

 

[TheFreshBanana]

So why is suicide by hanging a common choice?
If you're sensitive about discussing the topic don't read further.

Spoiler

I mean why don't you hear much about gaseous asphyxiation, other than carbon monoxide, which is also relatively difficult to set up. I've never considered it, but If I wanted to go out in a painless way, Id fill the bath with Co2 and be out in an instant. No thoughts, no pain

I wouldn't even know how to do that.

 

[timtamWB]

So why is suicide by hanging a common choice?
If you're sensitive about discussing the topic don't read further.

Spoiler

I mean why don't you hear much about gaseous asphyxiation, other than carbon monoxide, which is also relatively difficult to set up. I've never considered it, but If I wanted to go out in a painless way, Id fill the bath with Co2 and be out in an instant. No thoughts, no pain

Because when you're considering suicide, you don't often think too deeply about it. You're just desperate for an end, so you go for the ways you've seen in movies and the more common ones, which are shooting (bit hard to get guns in Australia, not too easy), jumping from a tall building (not always easy to find a tall building or get to the top of it) or hanging (rope + anywhere in your house, easiest).

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

Because when you're considering suicide, you don't often think too deeply about it. You're just desperate for an end, so you go for the ways you've seen in movies and the more common ones, which are shooting (bit hard to get guns in Australia, not too easy), jumping from a tall building (not always easy to find a tall building or get to the top of it) or hanging (rope + anywhere in your house, easiest).

Not to mention it's relatively quick. Gas asphyxiation takes time. It gives you time to reflect whereas a hanging is instant

 

[RobbieGray17]

Not to mention it's relatively quick. Gas asphyxiation takes time. It gives you time to reflect whereas a hanging is instant

No it doesn't. Co2 can knock you out in less than a second. The problem is, it takes about 5-8 minutes for death, and could result in brain damage if you were rescued.