Difference between Islam and Extremism

[hunt1234]

Do you think the reclaimers (who Ive been critical of) are representative of Australia?

I'm putting you in the seat for a change, forget about a demo that happened weeks ago. Give me a positive about Australia and a negative about the Muslim faith. Show us you are not here to not run down Australia at every chance you get as its becoming boring.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I'm putting you in the seat for a change, forget about a demo that happened weeks ago. Give me a positive about Australia and a negative about the Muslim faith. Show us you are not here to not run down Australia at every chance you get as its becoming boring.

Challenge accepted.

Positive about Australia: Most Australians accept out identity as a multi-cultural and tolerant society. Most are willing to stand up to blatant racism, such as when many Australians stood up to violent racists last weekend.

Negative about the muslim faith: Needs a Luther.

 

[crackerjack4X4]

Educate you self young man and take the time to read what a Syrian born woman has to say.
http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/chapter-twenty-eight-muslims-story.html

 

[tige19]

Why is it racist to dislike ISLAM? I openly dispise the religion, studied it for years and have very little in positiveness to preach about.

Shits me how the racist tag gets branded when in fact it's only about religion.

 

[Number37]

Educate you self young man and take the time to read what a Syrian born woman has to say.
http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/chapter-twenty-eight-muslims-story.html

What about a Syrian born woman that supports ISIS? Or are just picking the ones that conform with your POV?

 

[crackerjack4X4]

 

[fleabitten]

That is a very courageous person.

 

[Number37]

That is a very courageous person.

Sooooo brave like James Hird or fair dinkum so brave?

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

i wish i had an answer for you. But the point i mentioned above is still valid. If a radical wants to go Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan, why keep him Australia? we have over 100 cancelled passports and over 10,000 on the watch list. Keeping them amongst us is doing much damage. For example, why are guys like Zaky Mullah still in Australia despite all the hate speech, after blatant admission of promoting radicalisation of youths several times? Just google/youtube Anjem choudhury/Zaky Mullah or read his twitter.How on earth is he not behind bars is beyond me.Yet if i fail to pay my council taxes then i am a criminal.

It is a complex issue, if we let them go, we know that they are going to engage in murder and rape of civilians. Isn't allowing that to happen, in some way giving tacit approval of what they intend to do when they get there?

 

[raghav]

Challenge accepted.

Positive about Australia: Most Australians accept out identity as a multi-cultural and tolerant society. Most are willing to stand up to blatant racism, such as when many Australians stood up to violent racists last weekend.

Negative about the muslim faith: Needs a Luther.

Racism one thing, religion another they are two different things which you either fail to comprehend or just don't want to.
What race were the so called violent racists protesting against?

 

[Ashton Agar]

Why is it racist to dislike ISLAM? I openly dispise the religion, studied it for years and have very little in positiveness to preach about.

Shits me how the racist tag gets branded when in fact it's only about religion.

Thank you. Bloody hell. Being against Islam is not racism.

http://www.news.com.au/national/rec...across-australia/story-fncynjr2-1227291081061

The No Room For Racism group don't even know what they are about.

 

[LP04]

Why is it racist to dislike ISLAM? I openly dispise the religion, studied it for years and have very little in positiveness to preach about.

Shits me how the racist tag gets branded when in fact it's only about religion.

Amen.

 

[CountryRace]

Why would you study something you don't like for years ?

Need something to go after cutting ya self?

 

[The Edukator]

Why would you study something you don't like for years ?

Need something to go after cutting ya self?

what a dumb thing to say

 

[CountryRace]

what a dumb thing to say

I openly dispise the religion, studied it for years

 

[raghav]

Amen.

Agreed.

 

[CM86]

I think the connection to racism, is because Islam is most commonly connected to the middle east. And a lot of actual racists use the religious aspect as a smoke screen to attack people from the middle east.

Racists are cowards, so they often try to hide behind different causes.

I think all religion is stupid, and Islam is one of the worst. But I don't condemn a people because of the extremists. I think that is a major point between anti-islam and racism.

 

[Maggie5]

What I'm referring to is the idiots like Kidd Vicious etc., who repeatedly refer to people as racists when in fact they are talking about religion.

So you are not vilifying a person or group because of their religion, just the religion. Is that right?
The thread is mis-leading as on one hand it is Islam (religion) then on the other hand Terrorism which is an act of violence.
Not sure that you can compare accurately. Very confusing thread, unless you want to have a go at Muslims, which can be seen as racist.

 

[crackerjack4X4]

Is this woman a racist?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ed-Islam-so-my-family-think-I-should-die.html

 

[crackerjack4X4]

More bloody racists
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/09/is-it-racist-to-criticize-islam.html

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

What I'm referring to is the idiots like Kidd Vicious etc., who repeatedly refer to people as racists when in fact they are talking about religion.

Those who define their political identity by an opposition to a food preparation method won't possess a genuine understanding of the distinction between race and religion.

 

[Schache It Off]

Those who define their political identity by an opposition to a food preparation method won't possess a genuine understanding of the distinction between race and religion.

Tell me the race of Islam.

..Or are you suggesting that all people who are Mohammedan are Brown/Black?

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

What I find very frustrating is that a criticism of Islam or Islamism is automatically conflated to being racist or hating Muslims from some people which is absurd and makes no sense. I have no doubt that a small handful of people hate Muslims for their own prejudicial reasons, but most people I know who criticise Islam or Islamism don't have a hateful bone in their body when it comes to Muslims as people but are vocal about the issues of Islamism which I think are valid and worth discussing.

You don't see people saying that Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens (when he was alive) that they hate Christians despite being vocal critics of Christianity and the doctrines contained within the Old and New Testaments.

It's time to get out of this rhetoric of calling people Islamophobes and racists and get to the more important part of discussion and that's Islam (specifically the ideologies of Wahhabism and Kharijism), Islamic sectarian violence, foreign policy, geo-political conflicts and etc.

 

[CountryRace]

There is no great shortage of people calling Dawkins a flog.

In a similar manner, in fact

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

My opposition to a food certification, which in actual fact is a meaningless commercial exercise, in no way whatsoever defines my political identity and only a dullard like you would assume so. I, unlike you and those of your ilk, have a clear understanding of the meaning and application of the words race and religion and use both words in their correct context.
You are nothing more than an apologist for Islam and a talking vacuous head.

That poster is your typical leftist who follows a BandtBot/Greens disciple who will viciously classify anybody who isn't an Islamic Socialist sympathizer a racist. He has an incredibly perverse view of society.

...Still waiting for the left to tell me how criticism of Islam is racist.

It's no accident those who are so anti-islam also happen to be the most vociferously anti-immigration.

There is no biological basis for race; it is a construct. And muslims are constructed, by racists, as a racial construct. They are never encouraged to convert or shed their beliefs. They are told to either piss off or don't come here. They are presented as outsiders, as bringing a foreign language and customs and as undermining the dominant host culture. The language used here confirms this. There are australians, then there are muslims. Issues of racial and cultural identity, citizenship and immigration are inseparable from this whole argument. Criticism of islam from conservatives is usually presented as indistinguishable from racial criticism. By and large, the only non-racist criticism of islam comes from the left, broadly speaking.

The occurence of anti-immigration conservatives (and many anti-islam posters have made their opposition to immigration clear, and documented) being anti-islam based on religious principles is simply absurd. Their dishonesty in hiding behind the 'not a race!' article is indicative of their general cowardice in admitting to racial and political opinions when asked.