Dons more likely to avoid doping ban, says lawyer

Discussion in 'Hot Topic - The AFL, ASADA and Drugs' started by Bloodstained Bomber, Apr 27, 2013.

Put it out there
  1. Snake_Baker

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    They would trust the professional "WADA compliant" and legally binding advice of the Essendon Football Club, wouldn't they?

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    They were direct quotes from a lawyer not representing Essendon. To me this trumps Caro and her thorces
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    They're not allowed to
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    Odd article. Perhaps I'm just too hungover to see what it's suppose to be claiming.


    Essendon leak an email from Hird stating that the program had to abide by WADA guidelines, yet this lawyer is citing the ACC report as if it was some sort of guideline that was to be worked to instead? And the fact that they didn't have AOD as a banned substance means something? Huh?

    I would've thought that if the drug was not clearly within the WADA guidelines, then you don't inject it into your players continuously.

    Maybe I'm still drunk.
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    ALL AFL players are given education and talks every season around their legal responsibilities and peds and rec drugs. ALL players are advised it is their responsibilty to check everything they put in their body , down to cold tablets etc. Therefore ALL players who chose for whatever reason to have a susbstance put into their bodies that is outside the code, are liable and will incur penalties.

    ANY drug that is not deemed suitable for human use is outside the code period......
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    No it's clear that the bombers got it horribly wrong by administering a cocktail of potential life threatening drugs in the pursuit of ultimate glory
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    trumps, are you serious. This is not about one upmanship.
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    Essendon duped young men in to signing contracts that they believed in good faith?
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    This is where is gets ugly for the AFL and I don't think they would want to go there. If (hypothetically) 6 players received a ban I think the AFL will put all sorts of pressure on Essendon to take the hit and put this thing to bed. The AFL would want to avoid overturning any ban put it place by WADA/ASADA and be forever seen as a league that turns a blind eye. Integrity isn't the AFL's main game. It's PR.
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    So when the player is told they are to receive aod9604 do they jump on google or ring ASaDa?

    Hmmmmm
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    Consent forms giving their consent to participate in the program

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    They are educated time and time again, if you are unsure, don't take it. This sympathy for stupid footballers defence is pathetic.

    You're club instigated a comprehensive supplements program and it appears they $&@?ed it up and turned it into a doping program.

    If that is what happened, players will pay the price, the EFC will pay the price, and then the EFC will pay the price again when the player sue them and sponsors jump ship.

    Is there any chance the EFC are at fault here? Today it is ASADA's fault? Last week it was the doctors. before that it was Dank went all rogue (which could be true but given he was employed by the club is irrelevant)

    It is probably time to mobilise your 50k deluded members to find that letter.
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    I understand that, but this consent form directs player inquiries to the currently unknown person who is representing the Essendon Football Club in the contract and not to the ACC or ASADA.

    I refuse to even entertain the idea that a single Essendon player looked in those forums for guidance, until one of them steps forward and makes that claim.

    They better have their IP info down pat. The ACC will be all over it.
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    Integrity is their main cause when it is crucial to PR and in this instance the spotlight is blazing hot.
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    IF they exist, then it is corporate systemic intimidation of staff....or they were fully informed, and all called as they were advised by the afl to do under the anti doping code?
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    So I'm on you're banned list or am I prohibited?
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    Maybe they're just dumber at Essendon. I am sure they are all briefed on drugs in sport numerous times.
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    as per their direction by the afl they ring the 24 hr player sepcific number they are all given...
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    The letter the media postulated? You fell for that one too right?

    Players responsibility to check. Who with? ASADA!
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    Is there any evidence that they did either?
    That is odd.
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    Which is?
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    As odd as the fact you think we would know?
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    Lets go back to the future

    what are your thoughts on this?

    IV drip use at Windy Hill enough to breach doping law


    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...reach-doping-law/story-e6frf9jf-1226578316393

    Whether those infusions carried legal drugs or banned peptides, it is the manner in which they entered they body that would breach the AFL's code.

    The AFL's code makes it clear intravenous infusions are "prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions or clinical investigations".

    Those breaches of the code - "prohibited methods" - are viewed as just as serious as using "prohibited substances", and attract a two-year ban.

    It is alleged Essendon players were taken over the road from Windy Hill to a Botox clinic and given intravenous drips.


    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...reach-doping-law/story-e6frf9jf-1226578316393

    ??????
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    As stated previously ,ALL players have a 24 h player asada number to call.......Like it or not they chose not to call.....
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    Iv injections less that 49mls are WADA compliant. But of course Essendon staff wouldn't know such technicalities