MRP / Trib. Douglas suspended for 2 games (With subsequent discussion on Viney bump)

[Kane McGoodwin]

Afc should come out & say they are concerned that this has gone straight to tribunal & intimate that we will appeal if we think the process or penalty are unfair.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Afc should come out & say they are concerned that this has gone straight to tribunal & intimate that we will appeal if we think the process or penalty are unfair.

Fat f@$&in chance of our administration having the balls to do this.

 

[Elite Crow]

Glass gets one game for cleaning up Wingard and sending him to hospital with bruised ribs. The AFL is ****ed.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Going to miss at least a month of footy including the bye...

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Does anyone else think that Ward and Douglas clashed heads?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Fat f@$&in chance of our administration having the balls to do this.

Unfortunately you are likely to be correct.

 

[MRB37]

So Glass gets a week because Wingard kept playing, but Dougie, who didn't hit a guy in the head, gets more because Ward was subbed off with concussion? It's so silly.

 

[Crow-eater]

Glass gets one game for cleaning up Wingard and sending him to hospital with bruised ribs. The AFL is ******.

MRP lotto in full swing this week.

 

[hey shorty]

Does anyone else think that Ward and Douglas clashed heads?

They have to have hit heads otherwise the MRP have no leg to stand on.

 

[GROTTO]

This is total BS.

Here is a photo of contact, legs on the ground and I dont care what anyone says he didnt hit his head. His head injury was sustained when he hit the ground.

 

[pjcrows]

This is total BS.

Here is a photo of contact, legs on the ground and I dont care what anyone says he didnt hit his head. His head injury was sustained when he hit the ground.


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They don't care. Any head injury resulted from unnecessary contact = penalty.
I just didn't expect the tribunal. Ridiculous.

 

[Stinger...]

Does anyone else think that Ward and Douglas clashed heads?

I think you'll this might be the case! Which means Dougie won't play for at least a month, probably more!

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

This is total BS.

Here is a photo of contact, legs on the ground and I dont care what anyone says he didnt hit his head. His head injury was sustained when he hit the ground.


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From that picture, Ward is the only GWS player that would have been able to put pressure on the kicker. I thought it happened behind the play, but this shows it was in line with the play.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

From recent history anyone referred to the Tribunal usually faces a suspension longer than the MRP can issue.

Not necessarily. Below is a list of cases that have gone direct to the tribunal and their results (from google search - there may well be others).

2013 GF: Nick Suban (misconduct - unreasonable conduct to face) - 1 game + 50 carry-over points.

2013 round 3: Dean Brogan (rough conduct - negligent off the ball bump causing broken jaw) - 3 games

2012 round 16: Chris Judd (misconduct - "chicken wing") - 4 games + 50 carryover points

2009 round 3: Heath Shaw (contact with umpire) - 1 game + 26.56 carryover points, down from 225pts with guilty plea and good record

2008 round 4: Barry Hall (striking) - 7 games + 90 carryover points


There are two types of case here. One is the Barry Hall one - where the points system said he had to go the Tribunal.

All the others are slightly unusual circumstances for one reason or another, where it seems the MRP has said "our gradings don't really contemplate this situation - the tribunal should deal with it."

It doesn't necessarily mean that the bloke's gonna get 8 weeks. Brogan's is probably pretty comparable. With a plea and a clean record, I could see Dougy getting away with 2.

 

[Crows4Eva]

Absolute joke that Douglas is being sent to the tribunal when the bump wasn't high and he didn't raise an arm/leave the ground and Glass gets one week when he left the ground AND hit Wingard in the head, not to mention rib bruising. What a joke

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It might be more than 5m, but it's not much more. It's not as though it was a mile behind play.

 

[Deaneus!]

This is total BS.

Here is a photo of contact, legs on the ground and I dont care what anyone says he didnt hit his head. His head injury was sustained when he hit the ground.


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I daresay that's 5 metres or close enough to.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So a1118868 does that mean Dougie can still get his good record and guilty plea bonus?

 

[StonesThrow]

The direction Smith is running makes it a legitimate shepherd imo. Ward definitely could have cut the angle and pressured him.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. The way they're going with the bump, he's probably looking at 2 weeks imo.

 

[GROTTO]

I still dont understand how Barry Hall was not suspended for more. That was the biggest disgraceful decision ever made, a deliberate round house hit to the head that knocked the player out.

Should have got a season for that IMO.

 

[Wright Away]

It might be more than 5m, but it's not much more. It's not as though it was a mile behind play.

5-5.5 metres at most. I've measured it.

I am actually glad in a way. The AFC are forced to argue dougies case. If he was given a MRP offer the Crows would just accept it and not argue. I think this can be argued to a 1-2 week, or no suspension at all.

 

[GROTTO]

Can someone please post the vision in here?

Did Ward run into Douglas or the other way around? Massive difference in the decision.

 

[GROTTO]

5-5.5 metres at most. I've measured it.

I am actually glad in a way. The AFC are forced to argue dougies case. If he was given a MRP offer the Crows would just accept it and not argue. I think this can be argued to a 1-2 week, or no suspension at all.

Correct. I put the decision around 6m, but to say it is off the ball is ridiculous it is within the scope of error and both players were realistically in the play.

 

[thebeedee]

It is going to be interesting. You can no longer bump a player without fear of incurring the wrath of the "Duty of care" brigade, yet you can punch the player responsible in retribution and be suspended for only one game. Seems to me there is less duty of care when you punch someone. There is only one intention when you punch whereas a bump is used to be a legitimate tactic to protect a team mate from being tackled.

 

[GROTTO]

Just before contact made.