Essendon never used Hexarelin

[Lance Uppercut]

In other developments related to the doping scandal, Fairfax Media has learnt further details about a 2012 invoice that was discovered at Essendon and that lists the drug Hexarelin, which is a human-growth-hormone-releasing peptide banned by doping authorities since 2004. Fairfax Media reported on Saturday that Essendon had recently discovered the invoice, which has been handed to the AFL and doping investigators.

The Hexarelin invoice was sent to the club by Mr Alavi during the 2012 season and paid for by the club. Some time later, Mr Dank alerted the club that he had not ordered the Hexarelin listed on the invoice. After the mistake was discovered, Mr Alavi refunded the Hexarelin payment in the form of a credit that the club could use to buy other supplements.

The details around the invoice have positive and negative consequences for the Bombers. Although they confirm Mr Dank's public statement that he never used HGH-releasing peptides on players, they suggest the club's internal governance may have been so lax as to allow a banned drug to be paid for with few or no questions asked.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ped-chemist-20130501-2itgt.html#ixzz2S3ObYfFx

So... Anyone man enough to apologise for accusing Hird and/or the Essendon players for using Hexaralin? Or accusing Hird of lying about not using it?

 

[SydneyBomber]

Don't hold.your breath.....

 

[LanceRomance]

Is this what actually happened (seeing as Evans hasn't done an urgent broadcast regarding it) ? Or is it a suggestion? and why did the bombers let this go on for a week?

 

[FootyGeek]

In other developments related to the doping scandal, Fairfax Media has learnt further details about a 2012 invoice that was discovered at Essendon and that lists the drug Hexarelin, which is a human-growth-hormone-releasing peptide banned by doping authorities since 2004. Fairfax Media reported on Saturday that Essendon had recently discovered the invoice, which has been handed to the AFL and doping investigators.

The Hexarelin invoice was sent to the club by Mr Alavi during the 2012 season and paid for by the club. Some time later, Mr Dank alerted the club that he had not ordered the Hexarelin listed on the invoice. After the mistake was discovered, Mr Alavi refunded the Hexarelin payment in the form of a credit that the club could use to buy other supplements.

The details around the invoice have positive and negative consequences for the Bombers. Although they confirm Mr Dank's public statement that he never used HGH-releasing peptides on players, they suggest the club's internal governance may have been so lax as to allow a banned drug to be paid for with few or no questions asked.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ped-chemist-20130501-2itgt.html#ixzz2S3ObYfFx

So... Anyone man enough to apologise for accusing Hird and/or the Essendon players for using Hexaralin? Or accusing Hird of lying about not using it?

You shouldn't be drawing any conclusions from articles in newspapers and you should just wait until the findings of the investigations are complete.

 

[simoro1]

Is this what actually happened (seeing as Evans hasn't done an urgent broadcast regarding it) ? Or is it a suggestion? and why did the bombers let this go on for a week?

As one of the theories being discussed on the bombers board, they are letting the media throw around all these accusations so when they do finally decide to refute them, they can sue the media for defamation and whatnot. Which will raise funds for the flight plan

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Is this what actually happened (seeing as Evans hasn't done an urgent broadcast regarding it) ? Or is it a suggestion? and why did the bombers let this go on for a week?

Because they aren't talking, or trying not to.

So much is media speculation, something Vlad warned us all about yesterday...

 

[the distributer]

In other developments related to the doping scandal, Fairfax Media has learnt further details about a 2012 invoice that was discovered at Essendon and that lists the drug Hexarelin, which is a human-growth-hormone-releasing peptide banned by doping authorities since 2004. Fairfax Media reported on Saturday that Essendon had recently discovered the invoice, which has been handed to the AFL and doping investigators.

The Hexarelin invoice was sent to the club by Mr Alavi during the 2012 season and paid for by the club. Some time later, Mr Dank alerted the club that he had not ordered the Hexarelin listed on the invoice. After the mistake was discovered, Mr Alavi refunded the Hexarelin payment in the form of a credit that the club could use to buy other supplements.

The details around the invoice have positive and negative consequences for the Bombers. Although they confirm Mr Dank's public statement that he never used HGH-releasing peptides on players, they suggest the club's internal governance may have been so lax as to allow a banned drug to be paid for with few or no questions asked.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ped-chemist-20130501-2itgt.html#ixzz2S3ObYfFx

So... Anyone man enough to apologise for accusing Hird and/or the Essendon players for using Hexaralin? Or accusing Hird of lying about not using it?

Please tell me you aren't that gullible.

 

[linuscambridge]

In other developments related to the doping scandal, Fairfax Media has learnt further details about a 2012 invoice that was discovered at Essendon and that lists the drug Hexarelin, which is a human-growth-hormone-releasing peptide banned by doping authorities since 2004. Fairfax Media reported on Saturday that Essendon had recently discovered the invoice, which has been handed to the AFL and doping investigators.

The Hexarelin invoice was sent to the club by Mr Alavi during the 2012 season and paid for by the club. Some time later, Mr Dank alerted the club that he had not ordered the Hexarelin listed on the invoice. After the mistake was discovered, Mr Alavi refunded the Hexarelin payment in the form of a credit that the club could use to buy other supplements.

The details around the invoice have positive and negative consequences for the Bombers. Although they confirm Mr Dank's public statement that he never used HGH-releasing peptides on players, they suggest the club's internal governance may have been so lax as to allow a banned drug to be paid for with few or no questions asked.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ped-chemist-20130501-2itgt.html#ixzz2S3ObYfFx

So... Anyone man enough to apologise for accusing Hird and/or the Essendon players for using Hexaralin? Or accusing Hird of lying about not using it?

And then Dank used the free Hexarelin to inject 6 Essendon staff members? You supporters need to make a choice, you either believe Dank or you don't, you can't cherry pick his comments depending if they suit your argument. If Dank is telling the truth then Hird is lying, make your choice.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

This clearly shows the (disgraceful) governance issues. But those who accused the players or Hird of using it, and called Hird a liar for denying it, need to have a good long hard look at themselves.

Also interesting implications for Dank's credibility vis a vis injecting coaches. Could make you think more closely about why he said that, and the potential for misusing Essendon's lax governance for his own needs around invoices

 

[Grin]

Dank's still refusing to cooperate isn't he?

I wonder what he's hiding.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Baker and Mckenzie are credible. You aren't @the_distributor

 

[BF Tiger]

It doesn't say that the Hexarelin wasn't used. It just says that Essendon didn't order it and that as such a refund was organised.

Saying it wasn't used is akin to saying that a refund credit was organised for other illegal substances.

 

[Higgs Boson]

This clearly shows the (disgraceful) governance issues. But those who accused the players or Hird of using it, and called Hird a liar for denying it, need to have a good long hard look at themselves.

Also interesting implications for Dank's credibility vis a vis injecting coaches. Could make you think more closely about why he said that, and the potential for misusing Essendon's lax governance for his own needs around invoices

I suppose you might ask, though, if Dank was using Essendon's budget for his own purposes, why alert the club to an erroneous invoice?

 

[The Prosecutor]

It doesn't say that the Hexarelin wasn't used. It just says that Essendon didn't order it and that as such a refund was organised.

Saying it wasn't used is akin to saying that a refund credit was organised for other illegal substances.

You really think they would've got a refund if they used it?

 

[jenny61_99]

Firstly, Dank must have known there was a paper trail that lead the ACC to Essendon. This, IMO is why he offered up that the coaches were taking something "a little bit outside" the code. Later, after it looked like Essendon were accusing him of being a rogue operator, he tells us he was injecting Hird (and Goodwin), twice a week, for three quarters of a season with hexarelin.

Why would he have done this?

At first I thought he was trying to clear the Bombers by saying the coaches took stuff outside the code but the players supplements were all above board. Then I thought he was sending a loud message to Hird by saying if I go down, you're coming with me.

Now for him to deny buying hexarelin - I just don't ******* know!

 

[LanceRomance]

Policy of ambiguity being operated by all parties?

 

[coryne]

In other developments related to the doping scandal, Fairfax Media has learnt further details about a 2012 invoice that was discovered at Essendon and that lists the drug Hexarelin, which is a human-growth-hormone-releasing peptide banned by doping authorities since 2004. Fairfax Media reported on Saturday that Essendon had recently discovered the invoice, which has been handed to the AFL and doping investigators.

The Hexarelin invoice was sent to the club by Mr Alavi during the 2012 season and paid for by the club. Some time later, Mr Dank alerted the club that he had not ordered the Hexarelin listed on the invoice. After the mistake was discovered, Mr Alavi refunded the Hexarelin payment in the form of a credit that the club could use to buy other supplements.

The details around the invoice have positive and negative consequences for the Bombers. Although they confirm Mr Dank's public statement that he never used HGH-releasing peptides on players, they suggest the club's internal governance may have been so lax as to allow a banned drug to be paid for with few or no questions asked.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ped-chemist-20130501-2itgt.html#ixzz2S3ObYfFx

So... Anyone man enough to apologise for accusing Hird and/or the Essendon players for using Hexaralin? Or accusing Hird of lying about not using it?

So why was Hexarelin linked to the EFC in the first place ??? Was an order of the substance accidentally charged to the EFC instead of to Hird directly ??? And how the hell did the order get to the point where the EFC are paying for the substance ??? Was the compounding pharmacy ran by Nima so amateurish that they are mixing up orders and charging clients for substances they have no link to (and in turn are they even supplying clients with what they are ordering?)


At best the invoice shows how poorly the club was being ran in regards to the "supplement" program. At worst it raises the question of why the drug was linked to the club at all and the company they are purchasing from.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Now for him to deny buying hexarelin - I just don't ******* know!

Pretty much summed it up with that line. No one here knows anything.

 

[LanceRomance]

You would think that a club would declare an incident like this to the AFL... To avoid complications later on?

 

[rumply]

So

-There is or isn't a letter, irregardless EFC has not lied about the issue
-There was no use of Hexaralin either by coaches or players & EFC has not lied about the issue

With Essendon's side of this finally starting to filter through, I think I see a trend developing here....

 

[BF Tiger]

You really think they would've got a refund if they used it?

Probably not. My point is that we're constantly being told by EFC fans not to assume anything based on media reports unless specifically stated. You have to wonder why the drug was sent to EFC in the first place though. Prior history?

That said, it's a good development for the players, but it still looks like s**t for the management who paid for it. Quite clearly they had no idea of what was going in the front door.

 

[evo]

We have to apologise for believing one of the litany of lies that emanate from Essendon people on a seemingly daily basis?


Haha, that's the best gag I've heard yet!

 

[Grin]

Pretty much summed it up with that line. No one here knows anything.

I think his making the point that the story is constantly changing.

 

[blackshadow]

It doesn't say that the Hexarelin wasn't used. It just says that Essendon didn't order it and that as such a refund was organised.

Saying it wasn't used is akin to saying that a refund credit was organised for other illegal substances.

Exactly.

Just like the the ones that *Essendon hasn't conceded were used, the ones they haven't denied using.

 

[SunshineBoy]

The story keeps on changing