Let me get this straight.
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Yup you got it MYKI is a bigger dog than the east west link.
2 billion dollars for no road is the worst decision, well other than lying about it before the election
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Let me get this straight.
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Yup you got it MYKI is a bigger dog than the east west link.
1.1b is a hell of a lot of money for a bunch of unskilled blue collar bogans that haven't even done anything. Compensation for what? If I was him I'd rip it up or send the bill to Canberra. Technically the previous state government is liable for this mess.
The state election was a referendum on the road. Something the previous government didn't respect and hurriedly signed us into that hole of debt anyway.
Don't worry the only bogans receiving anything here will be very white collar. Not unskilled either. I'd say convincing a bunch of politicians to screw over the public to give you a $1B+ gift for no work is a pretty impressive skill.
$1b is just a grab for cash, it would not be unexpected for the consortia to have racked up costs in the $50-100m range though.
John Holland's costs were $14m on the bid and they were knocked out much earlier.
There is no way they will get out of this 50 -100 million.
Anyway its not as bad as Labors other complete Balls up 18 Billion for a plant that will never be used.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/desalination-plant-to-remain-in-mothballs-20150204-1364op.html
Imagine how many trains etc we could have if we kept these incompetents outs of office
No idea what point you think you're making with this comment.As if councils haven't wasted other peoples money going to court with a Nimby action
The costs include all the contracts they entered into with engineering and other consultants but the biggest expense is the financing this whole thing was going to be built with a consortium of lenders the govt and private ownership wasn't being applied till the road was builtI suspect not, they seem to have a guarantee, but thats not my point, was referring to the misconception that no work has been done, but it certainly isn't anywhere near the $1b figure either.
There is no way they will get out of this 50 -100 million.
Anyway its not as bad as Labors other complete Balls up 18 Billion for a plant that will never be used.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/desalination-plant-to-remain-in-mothballs-20150204-1364op.html
Imagine how many trains etc we could have if we kept these incompetents outs of office
If the previous Liberal government were respectable politicians and not corrupt economic vandals they wouldn't of signed the contracts. The fact remains Napthine signed contract 5 weeks before an election knowing that the election was a referendum on the road, it is the lowest dirtest act ever put on a state by a serving Premier yet Liberal supporters want to blame Labor. So just give me one single valid reason why the contracts had to be signed when they were and not delayed until after the election, I've been waiting months and yet to here one.Yup you got it MYKI is a bigger dog than the east west link.
2 billion dollars for no road is the worst decision, well other than lying about it before the election
This comment just needs to be a little more precise.
Libs rightfully or wrongly signed up for the East West Link.
Election was significantly concerned with building a road the govt signed up for or not building the road, importantly promised at no cost (which turned out to be totally wrong).
Many people voted to not build the road at no cost, if they new they were going to spend the same amount of money either way, many would have reversed their vote, exhibit A myself. Surely a compromised road is better than p@@@ing 2 billion up against the wall. A decision that the libs made the right decision when keeping the ridiculously expensive MYKI
Good to see you're providing detail and evidence to back up the opinion your party has told you to take. Keep parroting away. Polly want a cracker?
The state govt bit to build the road was 2 billion the rest was from the Feds and PPP. It's going to be the sameIts not the same money either way, and the consortia wanted all the profits while leaving the risk with the taxpayers.
Compliant politicians helps
Let me get this straight.
MYKI contracts were signed over 5 years before the Liberals came to power (with another election in between) compared to the E-W link being signed 8 weeks before an election by a government well behind in the polls.
There was no suggestion when the Liberals came to power that the MYKI contracts were invalid while the E-W link is up before the courts.
There was, to our knowledge, no side-contract for MYKI meaning compensation was payable even if the actual contract was found to be void. There was for E-W link.
The total cost of MYKI was $1.5B. The cost of the compensation payout alone for the E-W link is expected to be about that amount.
Yet MYKI is worse than the E-W link??? Only the most partisan hack could think that statement is reasonable.
Let's be honest. MYKI was a perfectly reasonable project delivered incompetently leading to huge waste. There was no drama around the signing of the contracts, no major opposition at the time they were signed and no dodgy compensation clauses. It rightfully led to the removal of a government due to cost blowouts and poor management. But the signing of the E-W link contracts by a government on its death bed mere weeks before an election with compensation clauses of $1B+ irrespective if the contract was valid is an outright fraud on the victorian people. A $1B+ gift to mates in the construction industry stinks of corruption. The new government should legislate to have the contract declared null with no requirement for compensation and call for a royal commission into the episode.
I can handle incompetency. It's something that's almost expected with governments to some degree and the public has the right to kick out governments because of it. But this is deceit pure and simple, legislating to deny an elected government the ability to deliver what the public voted them in to do. It absolutely stinks.
The genesis of MYKI was during the metcard project, which itself set benchmarks for poor project management.
I remember it being discussed at the time and the barriers hd provision for electronic card readers.
For mine. Myki should have been limited to weekly, monthly and yearly passes which merely opened the barrier if they were current, keep metcard for other journeys.
Note that oyster is quoted but it didnt immediately replace existing tickets as MYKI did
I can handle incompetency. It's something that's almost expected with governments to some degree and the public has the right to kick out governments because of it. But this is deceit pure and simple, legislating to deny an elected government the ability to deliver what the public voted them in to do. It absolutely stinks.
Get rid of corrupt businesses (i.e. Grollos) and we would have an even better state than we do now.
Gotta love the new Opposition.
Frankston Hospital's new ED was opened today. Something both sides would support.
Instead Matthew (the worst panning minister of all time) Guy attacks Andrews for not being there.
So where was the Premier?
In Mildura dealing with a railway issue.
Smarts, why was the desal plant built? What did the ALP get and what did the CFMEU get out of it?
Makes WA Inc look like a minor affair.
Pazza why are construction costs in Melbourne so high? I think we all know who the guilty party is.