Forget possessions and most stats, the most important metric to team success is rarely mentioned

[B0SK]

Mistakes.


The team who makes the fewest invariably wins the premiership.
This is why decision making and quality of ball use are so criminally underrated -if they are even rated at all- by the Champion Data system and the legions of football followers and so called "experts" who have become slaves to it.

It is paradoxical that the media's focus has shifted more and more towards the mindless appraisal of largely meaningless disposal numbers in an era of football when scoring without the benefit of opposition mistakes has become almost impossible.
If anything the most analyzed stat in the game should be turnovers, or scores from turnovers if you prefer, since this has become the very lifeblood of teams to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Stats like tackles and pressure acts which articulate a side's ability to force their opponents into error are also extremely important.


Memo to the football media - please start paying less attention to the number of times players touch the ball and more attention to what they do when they have it.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

That and also injuries.

 

[Lord Rod]

Courage.. All the money in the world doesn't buy it..

 

[Tiff]

And good old hard work, just ask my mate Luke Priddis

 

[SJ]

Mistakes.


The team who makes the fewest invariably wins the premiership.
This is why decision making and quality of ball use are so criminally underrated -if they are even rated at all- by the Champion Data system and the legions of football followers and so called "experts" who have become slaves to it.

It is paradoxical that the media's focus has shifted more and more towards the mindless appraisal of largely meaningless disposal numbers in an era of football when scoring without the benefit of opposition mistakes has become almost impossible.
If anything the most analyzed stat in the game should be turnovers, or scores from turnovers if you prefer, since this has become the very lifeblood of teams to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Stats like tackles and pressure acts which articulate a side's ability to force their opponents into error are also extremely important.


Memo to the football media - please start paying less attention to the number of times players touch the ball and more attention to what they do when they have it.

Raw turnover numbers on their own, like every other stat you mentioned, are meaningless without context.

 

[B0SK]

Raw turnover numbers on their own, like every other stat you mentioned, are meaningless without context.

Yeah you could argue all stats are meaningless without context which is why we should never put too much faith in stats in the first place, I agree with you.

Turnovers in the corridor anywhere near the center square are murder these days. Turnovers in the forward pocket, different story.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Luck. In a one off contest the side with luck usually wins.

 

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

Luck. In a one off contest the side with luck usually wins.

Not even with Luck in the side

Zero wins from eight games

He was Unlucky

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/H/Harry_Luck_gm.html

 

[big_e]

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/2014-review-scores-from-turnovers
http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2014-09-24/2014-review-scores-from-turnovers
Analysis like this perhaps?

 

[SJ]

Yeah you could argue all stats are meaningless without context which is why we should never put too much faith in stats in the first place, I agree with you.

Turnovers in the corridor anywhere near the center square are murder these days. Turnovers in the forward pocket, different story.

Correct. I think it was something like 11-3 in the defensive midfield zone in the first quarter on Saturday. Said a lot.

 

[Gydafud]

Isn't scores resulting from turn overs a stat? Probably the most telling to see how the opposition played.

 

[Furn2]

Points scored per team is a big one.

But seriously there's a fair bit of talk on scores from turnovers on the shows.

But not all turnovers are mistakes are they ?

They should have forced and unforced turnovers like tennis, would be interesting to see.

 

[Shane Hird]

Isn't scores resulting from turn overs a stat? Probably the most telling to see how the opposition played.

Hawks had bucket loads of those on Saturday..

 

[the_interloper]

What about kicking straight? How many games are decided by teams having similar amounts of shots at goals and one side being able to convert a lot better?

 

[Firebat]

What about kicking straight? How many games are decided by teams having similar amounts of shots at goals and one side being able to convert a lot better?

Fuggin this. This so much.

The amount of times games could have been iced in a third quarter with a team kicking 2.5 instead of 5.2 and then going on to lose in a tight one.

 

[Superstar swan]

Mistakes.


The team who makes the fewest invariably wins the premiership.
This is why decision making and quality of ball use are so criminally underrated -if they are even rated at all- by the Champion Data system and the legions of football followers and so called "experts" who have become slaves to it.

It is paradoxical that the media's focus has shifted more and more towards the mindless appraisal of largely meaningless disposal numbers in an era of football when scoring without the benefit of opposition mistakes has become almost impossible.
If anything the most analyzed stat in the game should be turnovers, or scores from turnovers if you prefer, since this has become the very lifeblood of teams to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Stats like tackles and pressure acts which articulate a side's ability to force their opponents into error are also extremely important.


Memo to the football media - please start paying less attention to the number of times players touch the ball and more attention to what they do when they have it.

This line of thinking would cost Priddis a few votes ...completely agree with your points

 

[stmookeyj]

Further to this, the only tackling stat worth mentioning to me is MISSED tackles. Anyone can lay a tackle for little to no result, but just about every missed tackle means scoreboard pressure against you.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Stats show that 100% of the time the most important stat is who leads on the scoreboard at the end of play.

 

[fabulousphil]

Less mistakes, courage, athleticism, selfless team orientated play and skill do it for me every time.

 

[Champion_Data]

Yeah you could argue all stats are meaningless without context which is why we should never put too much faith in stats in the first place, I agree with you.

Turnovers in the corridor anywhere near the center square are murder these days. Turnovers in the forward pocket, different story.

Opposition Score % from Turnovers:
63% - Defensive 50 Corridor
58% - Defensive 50 Pocket
38% - Defensive Midfield Corridor
33% - Defensive Midfield Wing
27% - Defensive Midfield Boundary
21% - Attacking Midfield Corridor
19% - Attacking Midfield Wing
15% - Attacking Midfield Boundary
13% - Forward 50 Corridor
9% - Forward 50 Pocket

 

[NotAMagpieBogan]

The reason Collingwood has been s**t this year.

 

[tazaa]

metric ai?
look at the big brains on Bosk!

 

[Dinsdale]

Stats show that 100% of the time the most important stat is who leads on the scoreboard at the end of play.

60% of the time you are right every time.

 

[Oxirane]

Raw turnover numbers on their own, like every other stat you mentioned, are meaningless without context.

I think Murray Newman had the least turnovers and scores from turnovers this year.

 

[craffles]

Write a letter to gildorf and demand change.

Murica!