Looking it up. Messing around with motogp/V8SC/GT3/LMP1 lap time comparisons between PI/AP/Silverstone. I reckon an MB F1 car could do 1:35 at AP. You could then make up 2-4 secs with good tyres. That's pretty good.
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A fairly significant portion (like 50%) of the downforce doesn't come from the wings IIRC. It was mentioned by someone from a team on Sky or something.
Give back the EBD's and I think it would be surprisingly fast.
Give back the EBD's and I think it would be surprisingly fast.
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It would be interesting to see how drivable they would be without the wings, if drivable at all. Certainly in the past at least, when other motorsportsmen have driven F1 cars at a pace too slow to generate enough downforce the cars have just spun off the track! I wonder if the other downforce devices could generate the downforce in the right areas for the car to still travel quickly (relative of course).
The engine and tyre characteristics have to change to get them going. So they won't be as tricky to driver slowly as current cars would. A fford does a 2:05 at AP. There's have to be a mathematical equation made up, accounting for an extra 150kgs, wider. stickier slicks...and 750hp!
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The floor I think also generates a decent portion of the down force. Really but like any complicated machine its the actions of all the separate parts working together.
No Russia wouldn't necessarily be a huge blow. Last year's race was a snore fest (supersofts and softs might spice it up).
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I did a load of predictions at the start of the season and I've gone and reviewed them - I would post the whole thing straight here, but there's a lot of pictures and it might get a bit intensive, especially for low-broadband users.
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So Jenson and Jessica Button were in their villa on holiday. Thieves pumped gas through the air conditioning and while they were knocked out stole Jessica's £250k ring and another £50k worth of stuff.
That's seriously messed up.
That's seriously messed up.
Yeah just read this, sounds terrifying!
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I just hope there's no long term effects from the gas they used; being rendered unconscious by gas for a long period of time can't be good for you. You can only assume the thieves would be using large amounts of the stuff to ensure the people in the place being robbed don't wake up. The report I read didn't confirm gas was used, but apparently there was a total of five people in the villa and they all heard nothing and woke up feeling groggy.
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Anaesthetic gas apparently, so they should be fine. Police saying it's been happening in this area over the last few months.
That's just ****ed.
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Its very lucky they weren't killed. Can be a very fine line between knocking someone out chemically and killing them.
(Case in point the old chloroform in so many works of fiction is bullshit, its poisonous.)
Anaesthetic gas can still kill a person
lol RBR spending the most.
They need to if they're going to overcome that shitbox of a PU.
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Those figures are astronomical! That's a lot of 250ml cans of energy drink...
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Some interesting figures from this article: http://raconteur.net/business/how-much-does-an-f1-car-cost
I think they're using Williams as the example.
Sponsorship only pays for half of the team costs, so I would assume F1 prize money accounts for the rest and ultimately determines if Williams makes a profit or loss each year.
I think they're using Williams as the example.
Sponsorship only pays for half of the team costs, so I would assume F1 prize money accounts for the rest and ultimately determines if Williams makes a profit or loss each year.
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Red Bull aren't expecting an upgraded power unit from Renault until the Russian Grand Prix. That's a whole bunch of races in the future and I'd expect that decision is based on Red Bull using their existing engines until then (Belgium, Italy, Singapore, and Japan) and then the upgraded unit for the final five races of the year.
Some interesting figures from this article: http://raconteur.net/business/how-much-does-an-f1-car-cost
I think they're using Williams as the example.
Sponsorship only pays for half of the team costs, so I would assume F1 prize money accounts for the rest and ultimately determines if Williams makes a profit or loss each year.
That's how it's been ever since Berne took over the pot. Back in 92 when Jordan took on free Yamaha engines they ended up slowing the car down compared to the old Ford unit. Jordan were struggling so much they didn't score a point all year until the last race. It ended up being crucial, as Eddie Jordan later admitted, without that point and the prize money that came with it the team would have very likely gone under.
However in recent times Bernie has been forced to hand over a bigger percentage of tv money to the teams due to the lack of sponsors right across the grid and those who do come on board not paying as much as they once did. Been that way since around the time cigs were banned. The last big F1 sponsor to enter F1 was ING and they left pretty quickly using the 08 Singapore scandal as an excuse but were looking to leave sooner than that anyway.
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I think Mark Skaife drove that 1992 Jordan once.
