Foxtel Cup Preview v Clarence

[peterss]

This is from the WAFL Website.

CLAREMONT travels to Tasmania to take on Clarence at Bellerive Oval on Saturday night keen to keep its unbeaten run to start 2011 alive and become the second WAFL club into the quarter finals of the Foxtel Cup.

So far in the inaugural Foxtel Cup this season reigning WAFL premiers Swan Districts went down to Williamstown, while East Perth got up in a thriller over triple VFL premiers North Ballarat.

Both those games were at Subiaco's Patersons Stadium and now this week Claremont becomes the first WAFL team to travel for the new competition.


Claremont will likely not have AFL-listed players Lewis Stevenson, Lewis Broome, Gerrick Weedon and Anton Hamp who all played in last week's hard fought win over Subiaco, and also have some injury troubles.

Andrew Browne, Alroy Gilligan and Brett Jones will also go out of the side through injury, and Chad Jones won't be making the trip despite nine goals in the reserves last week on his comeback from a serious hamstring injury, but depth is Claremont's greatest strength.

The likes of Tom Ayton, Ian Rowe, Henry Roberts, Brad Nisbett, James Thomson and Aaron Holt have all been in good form in the reserves and could receive the chance to show what they can do on a national stage via the Foxtel Cup.

Andrew Foster and Ian Richardson will also return and add plenty of quality, experience and goal scoring power after missing last week's game against Subiaco with back and ankle complaints respectively.

Captain Clancy Rudeforth and reigning fairest and best winner Luke Blackwell won't make the trip though.

The Tigers have started 2011 in tremendous form with strong wins over East Fremantle, Swan Districts, Peel, East Perth and Subiaco, and will be sure to want to keep that form going and progress to the next round of the Foxtel Cup.

Clarence is a relatively unknown commodity but is coached by Brett Geappen, the brother of Swan Districts' star forward and premiership player, and will be sure to be tough opposition on their home ground.

Claremont star Trinity Handley returned to some outstanding form last week in the win over Subiaco through the middle and up forward. He is looking forward to getting away with his teammates to play in Hobart.

"New experiences are something that you should relish and certainly this is one that is a great opportunity for our boys to travel interstate as a team, and play an unknown team," Handley said.

"We know they are quality, but other than that we don’t know really anything about them. It's going to be a great experience."

While Handley might adjust better than most of his teammates to the different conditions after playing with Port Fairy in Victoria last season, going from the 34 degrees last Saturday to playing at Bellerive Oval in a night game is sure to throw out some challenges too for the Tigers.

"It was pretty warm out there this week, but it certainly won't be like that down there," he said.

"It might be a little bit of an advantage for me, though, having played in Victoria last year where it was pretty cold most games. It will certainly be interesting to see how the boys cope with the colder weather."

Handley is also keen to go out there and perform strongly to not only show how strong of a club Claremont is on a national stage, but to also show the WAFL in the best possible light to a new, and larger, audience.

"I hadn’t really thought about it as representing the WAFL, but it is. One of the questions a lot of people ask is how does the WAFL compare to the SANFL, VFL or other leagues," Handley said.

"You'd like to think it compares pretty well so something like the Foxtel Cup is a great test to see that. I suppose you just approach this game like most others in that you want to win, however, knowing that it doesn’t count too much in terms of our own season back here in the WAFL. We want to win every game possible though."

SOURCE: http://www.wafootball.com.au/wafl/2566-claremont-foxtel-cup-preview-v-clarence

EDIT - Can mods please edit the title so it reads Clarence -V- Claremont.

 

[Dirty Bird]

EDIT - Can mods please edit the title so it reads Clarence -V- Claremont.

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Guess it's stuck how it is

Anyway, 3 of the next 4 weeks are 'meh' games. We already know 100% that Claremont, Port Adelaide and North Adelaide are going through.

It's just a question as to how good GWS are. Bullants will probably win, but you never know. Gold Coast went ok last season in the VFL, GWS are in the same stage of their development so could make a shock.

 

[CAS79]

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Anyway, 3 of the next 4 weeks are 'meh' games. We already know 100% that Claremont, Port Adelaide and North Adelaide are going through.

It's just a question as to how good GWS are. Bullants will probably win, but you never know. Gold Coast went ok last season in the VFL, GWS are in the same stage of their development so could make a shock.

Pity Clarence didnt get to play one of the Mid ranked SANFL teams, they might have made a showing but an A grade WAFL team will be too strong for them. Expect some early fight from the Roos though, they tackle all right.

 

[The_Wookie]

damnit ran out of time to do my own. Claremont are a shoe-in for this match anyway.

to come

Northern Bullants (carlton reserves) are on a 3 match winning streak atm in the VFL, and will probably beat GWS.
Port are going to flog the east coast eagles
Labrador are a decent team, and may do ok against north adelaide, but north should win

 

[peterss]

Feel free to add your own into here Wookie

 

[EaglesFlyingHigh]

Tigers should win by ten goals plus.

Tom Swift cleared to play, which is somewhat of a bonus.

GO TIGERS!!

 

[Dirty Bird]

Pity Clarence didnt get to play one of the Mid ranked SANFL teams, they might have made a showing but an A grade WAFL team will be too strong for them. Expect some early fight from the Roos though, they tackle all right.

I think Clarence would rather play a WAFL "A grade" side like Swan Districts than a SANFL "mid-ranked" team like North Adelaide.

Or they could play West Adelaide, they are top of the SANFL after all, and the only undefeated team.

 

[The_Wookie]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/17333/Default.aspx#fixtureid=5717&tab=Recap

CLAREMONT has knocked Clarence out of the inaugural Foxtel Cup, with a comprehensive 71-point victory at Hobart’s Bellerive Oval.

Runner-up in the WAFL last year, Claremont controlled the match throughout the first half, before scorching Clarence with five consecutive goals in the third quarter. They finished with 14.18 (102) to 4.7 (31), the highest score in the shortened format of this new state-based league

Claremont now progress to the second stage of the knock-out competition, where they will face the winner of next weekend’s clash between the Northern Bullants and Greater Western Sydney.

Claremont 2.5 5.8 10.13 14.18 (102)
Clarence 0.2 2.5 4.7 4.7 (31)

GOALS
Claremont: Saunders 3, Foster 2, Lee 2, Orzel 2, Derickx, McLernon, Rowe, Wilkes, Willett
Clarence: Standen 2, Thurley, Boon

BEST
Claremont: Murphy, Handley, Rowe, Wilkes
Clarence: Thurley, O’Brien, Round, Standen

INJURIES
Claremont: Nil
Clarence: Nil

More or less as expected really. Next round should be a bit harder.

 

[Kingpin]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/17333/Default.aspx#fixtureid=5717&tab=Recap



More or less as expected really. Next round should be a bit harder.

Yes, it was totally expected.
And it also highlights the inequity of the two competitions as they now stand.
This is possibly the ONLY time I'll ever defend Clarence, as I can't stand them, as do most people in Tasmanian football hence why they used to be one of the strongest supported TFL clubs even twenty years ago but now have a miniscule supporter base despite their success since 1993.
Clarence aren't anywhere near as strong this year as there were last year (soft wins over Burnie and Hobart and a convincing loss to Glenorchy so far) and let's not forget, Claremont are a very accomplished football side sitting atop the WAFL ladder with a lot of talent.
The WAFL has a lot of AFL talent running around in its competition whereas the TSL has virtually none, WAFL is also way more professional in the way it's run and structured compared with the somewhat ad-hoc, ever-changing TSL.
WAFL's salary cap is supposedly $200k per club each year, TSL's is a poxy $70k per club per annum (TFL's was $200k in 1990).
So the result is pretty a much a formality. It was Clarence's first loss in 26 matches at Bellerive and lowest score there since 1965.
The reality is that these clubs down here were downgraded to almost meaningless amateur teams for several years after the original TFL went bust and the AFL funded a team in the VFL instead, the clubs were sent back to the SFL and NTFL and have now lost virtually all their supporters, have little to no money and can't attract bigname talent to bring in crowds, raise the playing standard and increase revenue.
Clarence did well to get within 71 points, I can vouch for the fact that on a dry deck, Claremont would've belted some of the other TSL clubs by 170 points or more.

Just on the weather conditions, it was a damp, coolish night, but certainly not as cold as it can be. I was at a night match there last year when Hobart and North Hobart met in close to -2C

Good luck to Claremont for the rest of the season, they are a good club.

 

[cooee bulldog]

Yes, it was totally expected.
And it also highlights the inequity of the two competitions as they now stand.
This is possibly the ONLY time I'll ever defend Clarence, as I can't stand them, as do most people in Tasmanian football hence why they used to be one of the strongest supported TFL clubs even twenty years ago but now have a miniscule supporter base despite their success since 1993.
Clarence aren't anywhere near as strong this year as there were last year (soft wins over Burnie and Hobart and a convincing loss to Glenorchy so far) and let's not forget, Claremont are a very accomplished football side sitting atop the WAFL ladder with a lot of talent.
The WAFL has a lot of AFL talent running around in its competition whereas the TSL has virtually none, WAFL is also way more professional in the way it's run and structured compared with the somewhat ad-hoc, ever-changing TSL.
WAFL's salary cap is supposedly $200k per club each year, TSL's is a poxy $70k per club per annum (TFL's was $200k in 1990).
So the result is pretty a much a formality. It was Clarence's first loss in 26 matches at Bellerive and lowest score there since 1965.
The reality is that these clubs down here were downgraded to almost meaningless amateur teams for several years after the original TFL went bust and the AFL funded a team in the VFL instead, the clubs were sent back to the SFL and NTFL and have now lost virtually all their supporters, have little to no money and can't attract bigname talent to bring in crowds, raise the playing standard and increase revenue.
Clarence did well to get within 71 points, I can vouch for the fact that on a dry deck, Claremont would've belted some of the other TSL clubs by 170 points or more.

Just on the weather conditions, it was a damp, coolish night, but certainly not as cold as it can be. I was at a night match there last year when Hobart and North Hobart met in close to -2C

Good luck to Claremont for the rest of the season, they are a good club.

Good synopsis, KP. Not sure whether a road trip to Burnie in ordinary conditions is a "soft win" though. I was there watching the match last year too. Geez it was cold!!!! Good win to the Tiges too!

A few injuries and unavailabilities for the Roos at the moment. Aaron French, Paine, Drury, Stu Whitelaw and ONeal, all premiership players, three being state squad members from last year. Depth being tested, however, the kids coming through are not quite there for senior footy, although dominant at colts level. You know the Roos though, KP, will be on the up around September

 

[The_Reaper]

Could a composite TSL side beat Claremont?

 

[Thunderstruck]

They'd have a crack but I don't think they would. Nothing against the Tasmanian League but NT Thunder played Sturt about a year or so ago in Darwin and got thrashed in the order of 90 points or something.